The VISES of Garage Journal

[cagullett1]

It blows my mind how many vises you guys can find on CL! I search multiple times a day (work on a computer all day) and never find these old USA vises. If they pop up, people are asking CRAZY prices.

 

[drivesitfar]

CAG: don't feel like the lone ranger. i used to have my pick of maybe 2 or 3 good vises a day even with a few other members that live close to me picking and flipping them. i know i'm slowing down, but even if i wasn't picky there are just barely one good one a week now so keep looking or shoot me a PM because i'm selling a few and maybe a pallet of vises needs to go your direction too.

 

[Rileysan]

Toolman: sorry to say, but it might be cheaper to buy an old vise off Craigslist or Ebay than to buy a new dynamic jaw. Columbian is still making new vises so a quick googling might get you to a new part. if you were closer i'd probably have an old gem to sell you, but unless you are buying one of my bigger ones the shipping costs might kill a good deal.

good luck and curious if you were using it as a press or hitting it with a BFH or did it just break?

^ this.

You have a "newer" Columbian vise - they just don't hold up like the older ones. Pictured is my 504 1/2. It has the same sized jaws as yours, but probably weighs 3 times as much. You'd be much better off with a vintage vise!

Edit: I found this one last summer on CL for $50. All I did to it was scrub it with WD-40 and a wire brush

Brian

 

[bagged89s10]

I'm careful to stay out of Joe's and Bagged's territory to the east of me......I don't want to get a turf war started like the gang bangers do with their drug businesses.....

Hemi

Haha.

 

[Toolman12]

I still have my two Wiltons and can use them instead just really liked this one for sentimental reasons maybe someday i will run across the part and all will be right the world again. drivesitfar Thanks for the advise and to all that replied. P.S it broke under the extra 35 pounds i have gained since i quit smoking.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

CW
Nice one on the handy.

Cheers

.....
CW: i bet the boss will love hearing that or seeing that picture? I'm guessing the weight of your new little guy might be maybe 4 pounds give or take??
........

7lb 5oz

I'm sure my boss will care even less than me

 

[joe.striper]

i'm careful to stay out of joe's and bagged's territory to the east of me......i don't want to get a turf war started like the gang bangers do with their drug businesses.....
Hemi

truth!

 

[xxaler]

Locally, prices are absurd for turds, and the rest are run of the mill record no.2/3 in junk condition.

Guess the well has dried up.

 

[PghJKB]

Another Loch Erie Monster? Another Unicorn?

No doubt to compete with their cross city rivals.....

I've seen 18s and 28s, this would have been massive...

JKB

 

[Evergreentree]

I'm setting claim to the south east Pennsylvania territory, from the Susquehanna river to Penns walking purchase territory. Temporary time share territory to the shores of New Jersey in summer months! Territory map thread? Haha

Tool man- good on you for quiting that vice. I'm smoke free 3years, still chewing nicorette and I have a new vise! seriously, good work man!

Oak-can I see your leather vise jaws? I'm in the process of wet molding jaws right now! I just need to go buy some copper rivets for them.

 

[drivesitfar]

ALL: best of luck to all of you that think you can claim an area.

JKB: Holland's 9 inch wide jaw vise must weight close to 400 pounds. does anybody own one or have a picture of it?

ALL: i was looking for something else on Ebay and noticed there is Reed 208 with a broken slide with a few days left in the auction already up to $500. if it was in great shape it's easily worth that, but wonder what this broken one is going to sell for?

 

[joe.striper]

I'm setting claim to the south east Pennsylvania territory, from the Susquehanna river to Penns walking purchase territory. Temporary time share territory to the shores of New Jersey in summer months! Territory map thread? Haha

Tool man- good on you for quiting that vice. I'm smoke free 3years, still chewing nicorette and I have a new vise! seriously, good work man!

Oak-can I see your leather vise jaws? I'm in the process of wet molding jaws right now! I just need to go buy some copper rivets for them.

Ummm...no. I have accounts in Bethlehem, Harrisburg, State College and Pittsburgh. You can have Sayre and be happy about it. . Don't make mms e come up there!!!

 

[joe.striper]

Picked up a 4" Wilton Bullet swivel base in very good original condition today. Paid up for it though, $200.

Off topic picked up a very nice 90k btu knipco salamander today for $100. Finally heat in my shop.

 

[Sam'sAutoParts]

Ummm...no. I have accounts in Bethlehem, Harrisburg, State College and Pittsburgh. You can have Sayre and be happy about it. . Don't make mms e come up there!!!

Umm..I was not aware my claim on SAYRE was being threatened. Although I will warn you, there is nothing good left. Lol

 

[Evergreentree]

plenty of vises to go around. Every barn or shop I drive by I know has a vise worth stopping for, as I imagine. I'll find out what's in some of them!

 

[autopts]

Picked up a 4" Wilton Bullet swivel base in very good original condition today. Paid up for it though, $200.

Off topic picked up a very nice 90k btu knipco salamander today for $100. Finally heat in my shop.

I've paid $200 many times for a bullet. Depending on its Model, Size and Condition, with your eye Joe, I bet its a real keeper. Show and tell Please!

 

[autopts]

Joe I mailed you a birthday present today for your new machine. My CNC is back up and running YEA.

Congratulations Kevin, I hope Manning is up and running smooth this Sunday.

 

[Outlawmws]

Happy Birthday to Joe...

When are you going to catch up with me...

I just moved into my eighth decade last June...

Hurry up, and you can be an old fart like Outlaw and me...

Nah, your way ahead of me!

 

[mroneeyedboh]

What is a good vintage vise to go after for a restoration? I don't want to spend much... So the big names are out of the question as they seem to fetch a lot even all rusted up. I want a swivel base and around 4.5-5" jaw.

 

[yossarian19]

What is a good vintage vise to go after for a restoration? I don't want to spend much... So the big names are out of the question as they seem to fetch a lot even all rusted up. I want a swivel base and around 4.5-5" jaw.

How much is "much"? I just spent $80 on a Reed 4" swivel in near mint condition, just needed cleaning and somebody to repaint it.

I'd just keep looking on Craigslist and make a habit of stopping at pawn shops & yard sales. I don't know any American vises that cost less, though a Wilton always seems to cost more.

 

[bl00]

Another Loch Erie Monster? Another Unicorn?

JKB

Demoman has one. Actually he probably has about 7 of them stashed away knowing him.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1024546&postcount=685

 

[joe.striper]

Hows this for show and tell???

http://providence.craigslist.org/tls/5430557583.html

 

[drivesitfar]

Joe: so did a few more get DROPPED off in your driveway this morning? or are they just on your route to pick up this weekend?? seriously i wish that #23 was within a couple hour drive because i could use it, but since i'm still ORGANIZING and NOT BUYING VISES i'll just have to wait for another one.

Bl00: figures Demo would have a 9 inch Holland's. i wonder if he or anybody has found the Pittsburgh RR vise yet?

MR: you might want to go in your GJ profile and put in your location because if you participate in the forum i wouldn't be surprised if a nice vise for not too much money might find it's way to you without shipping. agreed Wiltons fetch more and it's rare to find a good old 4 or 4.5 inch vise for under $100, but if you want to spend the time looking and can run to buy it then it can. or if your time is valuable pay somebody for their time that did the work to find it.

good luck

 

[va.grouseman]

If the Hollands #28 weighs 325 lbs., which is a swivel base, and the #19 weighs 300 lbs. which is a stationary, what would a 9 inch on a swivel base weigh?

 

[KMScott]

VA, that might be a simple ratio and proportion problem, I come out with 365lbs. 325/8lbs = X/9lbs = 365lbs Lets see how close this algebra problem comes out. I use this formula on pictures where I know what one dimension is.

 

[drivesitfar]

ALL: i did have a Holland's 19 saved that i think Bl00 posted, but can't recall who's vise he mentioned it was. maybe VA's search magic can find the post?? i do like Holland's and they are built as good and as stout as any vise ever made.

 

[mroneeyedboh]

Hey guys, I wouldn't mind spending around 1-150 for one. I will update my location.

Thanks

 

[bagged89s10]

Anyone know if this looks like the original handle on this Wilton woodworkers vise? I just sold it and need to finish it. Of course now I have 2 vises to finish and not much time.
Sorry for the crappy picture I took.

 

[McBrownie]

Anyone know if this looks like the original handle on this Wilton woodworkers vise? I just sold it and need to finish it. Of course now I have 2 vises to finish and not much time.
Sorry for the crappy picture I took.

Bagged,

I have a Wilton wood vise with the same handle. Looks original to me.

 

[drivesitfar]

Bagged: looks original from my chair. here's one i just sent to another member that had a 7 inch wide jaw.

 

[va.grouseman]

Yea Drive, the #19 is Demo's, page 35 post 685.


KM, 365 lbs. sounds about right.---I want one!!!

 

[Username already in use]

Anyone know if this looks like the original handle on this Wilton woodworkers vise?

Here's one for sale locally that appears to have the same handle.

-0lllll0-

 

[bluebolt]

Hey guys, I wouldn't mind spending around 1-150 for one. I will update my location.

Thanks

Yes update your location. I have a few vises I am fixing to sell myself.

 

[mike_paxton]

Anyone know if this looks like the original handle on this Wilton woodworkers vise? I just sold it and need to finish it. Of course now I have 2 vises to finish and not much time.
Sorry for the crappy picture I took.

Bagged89S10:

Agree with others, that it looks original on the handle.

Lots of those particular Wilton WW vises came from the schools, with some having the quick release feature and others not.

Either way, good heavy duty WW vise in about the 26 pound range.

Mike

 

[KMScott]

Veeps, I have a drawing of the Wilton Woodworking Handle for reference. Their pretty light handles since they are made out of 7/8 pipe.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Don't despair if you're having trouble finding affordable vises. They're still out there. I nearly stumbled on this 5 inch Desmond Simplex No. 51 at an estate sale today. Then I went to a flea market and stubbed my toe on this Craftsman 5169. The Simplex was $45 and the Cman was $35.

 

[bagged89s10]

Thanks fellas for the info on the Wilton handle. Now just debating on what to do with the handle because I need to make the vise look as nice as the Parker 974 I restored for him. And it's getting matching paint too.

 

[bluebolt]

Scored this Wilton bullet 9350SJ swivel jaw and base vise today for $104.26 at an antique store today. Guar Exp date 6-30-1964. More pictures later. It does have a chip on the other side that will need some work. No other issues so far, even has the finger savers! The swivel pin is stuck of course.

 

[bl00]

http://youngstown.craigslist.org/tls/5431297523.html

He said model 108...8" jaws but no makers mark...Reed?

Columbian

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: Some or maybe all the swivel jaw pins I've seen on Wilton SJ vises are threaded. so maybe not stuck??