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Which quarry in NY? Chippewa ? Adirondack Stone? Mohican? Champlain Stone? We have a bunch of them over here.
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Hi there Steve, I've been in contact with Adirondack Natural Stone:

http://adirondacknaturalstone.com/

I interested in their Adirondack Granite. Beautiful multicolored material. As long as I'm there I would like to pick out the fireplace lintel and firebox side stones. They have that material as well.

The quarry is located near Whitehall, NY. Once I get a good weather window I've got a road trip in my future. It takes a little effort to do this, but that's never stopped me before, plus I'd like to see how stone is quarried. I suspect you'll be seeing a post here on rock quarries in the near future. ;)

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Looking for information on single post car lifts steered me into this thread. Now I'm just trying to figure out where the last five hours went.

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Looks like someone else got sucked into the vortex! Welcome to Garage Journal!

Boy you guys really make doing this thread entertaining for me! Thanks fellows for a great laugh and welcome Mazderati. Just remember, resistance is futile. :D

Thomas
 
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Thomas, love keeping up with the COTU thru you and Chris, you seem to never get tired of coming up with projects to keep your shop neat and tidy. What I'am leading up to is the latest picture of the table with the prints on it, in the background is the lathe on the bench. The pan you fabbed up under it is one of those things you thump your forehead and think, why didn't I think of that. Sure makes cleanup a snap. I have been keeping up with this thread since page 3 and have enjoyed every minute of it. THANK YOU.

Wow, you got sucked into the vortex early on. Thanks for sticking around all this time, what is it, 6 + years now? This thread has wandered all over the place in the intervening years but it always comes back to the shop. That's the center of it all.

Here is the lathe chip tray you speak of...



It really makes keeping the metal chips coming off the lathe easy to clean up. Also prevents any cutting oil you might be using from dripping on and soaking the bench top.



It was made from a single sheet of galvanized metal, a very simple, straight forward design. Those front edges are curved to keep from getting snagged on them.



The rear corners are just lapped over and spot welded on the back side.



It sits well back, behind the bed to catch stray chips back there.



Note the notch in the middle of the back. It doesn't come to a sharp Vee in the bottom, but is curved to prevent a fatigue crack from developing. When pulling the tray forward for cleaning, that notch is needed...



...to clear the drain plug...



...in the bottom of the carriage.



It makes clean up so easy, just pull the tray forward out from under the lathe and dump the vast majority of chips into the recycling bin. (I try to recycle as much metal as possible, don't want to send scraps to the landfill when it can be recycled.) Then wipe off any oil that dripped down, sweep away any chips that missed the tray and slide it back in place ready for the next time. A few years back I had it powder coated (BIG surprise!!) :D and that made it even easier to keep clean. You can see nothing much wants to stick to powder coating, it just has some light stains.

BTW, the bench pictured above isn't the permanent lathe bench, its just sitting on that bench...



... until I get done refinishing this bench. Then the lathe will be installed properly on it. You can see where the chip tray was sitting on this bench when it was in use.

Thomas
 
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Thomas and Ms. Chris, I have finally reached the most recent end of the fabulous vortex of creative genius and automotive entertainment. There are no more compliments or accolades to give that have not already been given so I will simply say WOW. I originally found your thread from Rick's thread on FFCARS when he made his epic cross country trip in his Factory 5 Cobra. I like many of the gang here spent a good bit of my youth working and hanging around a local service station however my time was the 70's and 80's. Not the hot rod heydays of the 50's and 60's But we all had a great mix of late 60's early 70's American Iron, so I would love to added to the BS1.0 list.
 

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Hi there Steve, I've been in contact with Adirondack Natural Stone:

http://adirondacknaturalstone.com/

I interested in their Adirondack Granite. Beautiful multicolored material. As long as I'm there I would like to pick out the fireplace lintel and firebox side stones. They have that material as well.

The quarry is located near Whitehall, NY. Once I get a good weather window I've got a road trip in my future. It takes a little effort to do this, but that's never stopped me before, plus I'd like to see how stone is quarried. I suspect you'll be seeing a post here on rock quarries in the near future. ;)

Thomas

Awesome I'm looking forward to it and the house build..
 

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Awesome car choice Thomas.

I have a 2005 2.5 GT Limited, same color scheme (save for the Outback-specific lower cladding), leather, manual, panoramic sunroof, 18'' gold OZ Superleggeras, still on the original turbo at 125 000 miles, despite being modded (more boost, gutted downpipe, headers, intake, etc...).

I also put on STi brakes, which looks pretty cool.

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Looking for information on single post car lifts steered me into this thread. Now I'm just trying to figure out where the last five hours went.

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5hrs? Took nearly two months to read, start to end, two years ago��
 
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Re: Revised Australian BS 1.0 List

Here is the latest Australian BS list with 2 new additions....there may be more. I knew there was a strong following down there!


- Lyndon - Sydney, Australia
- 1/2 Cup - Shepparton. Victoria. Australia
- VMX42 - location in Australia unknown at this time
- Nursepeter1973 - Western Australia
- BBChevro - Brisbane, Qld., Australia
- Gatsby - Canberra Australia

Then to New Zealand

- williamhamilton - Wairarapa, New Zealand

BS has been circulating for more than 3 years now, around 40 +/- readers so far and to the best of my knowledge, it has been well received by everyone, no matter their age or background. Mark and Gatsby, I'm confident you'll be happy you got on the list. ;)

William, I'm sure you understand and aren't too terribly upset you'll have to wait just a wee bit longer.....but it'll be worth it! :D

Thomas

Hi Thomas,
Sorry I didn't let you know my location. Like Lyndon I am in Sydney Australia. Looking forward to the read.

Happy to go with your schedule or to get the book from Lyndon if he is local and then forward to 1/2 Cup in Shepparton.

Your call!!!
WooHoo!!

Cheers,
Jeff
 

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Welcome to all you newbies to the vortex (esp. Mazderati - 5hrs?)! Best not rush through the initial read. Skimming is for the final "brush up" before the Quest (which is real).

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Hi Thomas,
Sorry I didn't let you know my location. Like Lyndon I am in Sydney Australia. Looking forward to the read.

Happy to go with your schedule or to get the book from Lyndon if he is local and then forward to 1/2 Cup in Shepparton.

Your call!!!
WooHoo!!

Cheers,
Jeff

Thanks for the update Jeff. My suggestion is for all you good Australian folks to work out what you think might be best via GJ Private Messages (PM), based on your various locations. If you think that might be a problem we'll just go with the present list. I'm good with what ever you decide. If you can, try not to have BS criss-crossing the continent needlessly. More chance for it to get lost that way don't you think?

To send a PM, just sign in, click on the members ID name that you want to send a PM to. On the drop down menu, the second line down will say: send a private message to........, click on that and it will take you to a "Send New Private Message" section. Type your message there and send it off.

To check for PM's, on the upper right corner after you sign in, will be a line Your Notifications. Click on that and the first line on that drop down menu is: Unread Private Messages. Click on that and your PM will show up. It's slick system if you've never used it and it works really well. That way we don't clutter the thread with information that not everyone needs to read. That's usually how we exchange mailing and other contact information you might not want to get published on the thread. If you have a problem let me know and I'll help you out, no worries. Once you've all come an agreement let me know and I'll put out the list or leave it as it is.

A bit of a hassle I agree......but worth it! :thumbup: Thanks everyone.

Thomas
 
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Awesome car choice Thomas.

I have a 2005 2.5 GT Limited, same color scheme (save for the Outback-specific lower cladding), leather, manual, panoramic sunroof, 18'' gold OZ Superleggeras, still on the original turbo at 125 000 miles, despite being modded (more boost, gutted downpipe, headers, intake, etc...).

I also put on STi brakes, which looks pretty cool.

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Very nice car and well outfitted Hugo. Thanks for posting the picture. :thumbup: I really don't think you'll have a problem with the turbo even with the mods. My Eclipse had over 214,000 miles with never a hint of a problem. The manufactures seem to have turbos figured out these days.

My Outback has the 3.0, flat 6 cylinder engine. Rated at 245-hp which is up 55-hp from the Eclipse and frankly is no slouch. As a bonus, because it's a 6 cyl it's a much smoother engine that all my past 4 cylinder turbo cars were.



Overall it's been a good comprise and works well as my daily driver.
 

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Hi Thomas,
Sorry I didn't let you know my location. Like Lyndon I am in Sydney Australia. Looking forward to the read.

Happy to go with your schedule or to get the book from Lyndon if he is local and then forward to 1/2 Cup in Shepparton.

Your call!!!
WooHoo!!

Cheers,
Jeff

Sounds like a plan:thumbup:
 

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Very nice car and well outfitted Hugo. Thanks for posting the picture. :thumbup: I really don't think you'll have a problem with the turbo even with the mods. My Eclipse had over 214,000 miles with never a hint of a problem. The manufactures seem to have turbos figured out these days.

My Outback has the 3.0, flat 6 cylinder engine. Rated at 245-hp which is up 55-hp from the Eclipse and frankly is no slouch. As a bonus, because it's a 6 cyl it's a much smoother engine that all my past 4 cylinder turbo cars were.

Overall it's been a good comprise and works well as my daily driver.


I guess it depends on the use. Many stock turbos (VF39) are known to fail around 75k miles if they've had a hard life.

My car was rated at 250hp/250tq stock, but it's currently got around 315ish hp. I also updated the taillights to the ones on your car (clear lens, amber bulb, instead of ugly amber lens for the blinkers).

I used to have a 4Runner, and I've hauled pretty much everything that used to fit in there with my Legacy. I've also taken my family to Florida and back 5 times with it. I really love this car.

Knowing how meticulous you are with preventative maintenance, it should serve you for a long, long time.

Two things though : if you have some sort of rubber «seal» that looks like a weatherstrip under the outer lip of the rear fenders (mine had that, the Outback might not have that), remove that. It will accumulate dirt, debris, road salt and moisture, and your rear fenders will rust.

Also, the spark plugs are a pain to change (especially those at the back of the engine), because the boxer engine sits low, and the plugs are placed horizontally, right at the level of the subframe rails, yet they are deep within the head.

On mine, you need a 3-inch extension to get to the plug, but the very same extension will hit the frame rails as you unscrew the plug, preventing it removal. So halfway during the process, you have to switch to a 2.5 inch extension, and finally a 2-inch one to allow enough wiggle room to remove the plugs.

A 5 minute job on a normal 4-banger, a 1-hour ordeal on this one.

Oh well. The rest of the car is easy to work on. I swap my suspension every fall and spring (sportier setup during summer) and it's a breeze.

Cheers!
 

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Wow you said 6 years I had to go check that.. Dang gone ! Been reading this that long. Had no Idea it had been that long ! :0) what a read. Learn a lot about things I did't even know I want to know about LOL signed- Jamie long time reader lol
 

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It's difficult putting down a good book, isn't it? Six years has certainly flown by! And it doesn't seem like ten years since we took possession of the property (or it took possession of us). On to the next chapters (or volumes, or tomes....)

Chris
 

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I still chuckle every time I read "I'll post some more pictures if there is any interest", which Thomas posted back in 2009!
Yes, I think there is some interest!

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Beltsville Shell Readership Update

Once Craptain is done, here's the latest mailing list for BS 1.0

- DRRummel - Maryland
- bluestripe67 - Washington, DC

Then to Australia

- Lyndon - Sydney, Australia
- VMX42 - Sydney, Australia
- 1/2 Cup - Shepparton. Victoria. Australia
- Nursepeter1973 - Western Australia
- BBChevro - Brisbane, Qld., Australia
- Gatsby - Canberra, Australia

Then to New Zealand

- williamhamilton - Wairarapa, New Zealand

Once it returns from its 2nd New Zealand tour and all our Southern Hemisphere friends, BS 1.0 will begin on its 3rd USA/Canadian tour starting with...

- tkbowman - Burien, Washington
- 56vette461 - Northern California
- jbmatth - Northern Oklahoma
- THOM AA - Central Florida

Many thanks to all our Australian friends for working out a friendly, logical mailing plan. Also thanks to William in New Zealand for being so patient.

When bluestripe67 is done and he sends BS to Philo, I'll get a scan of the front and rear covers to document all of its journeys up to now and post them. I'll also take it to my friendly neighborhood book binder, Chris Hohn, to have some additional blank sign off pages installed and have him re-bind a page or two that has come loose. Then it'll be good to go across the Pacific to Lyndon once more.

It was Mike Oberst's idea when he started all this over 3 years ago in October, 2012. Still going stong Mike with no sign of folks losing interest in participating in the "Brotherhood of the Traveling Book" as Cary Thomas puts it. :bounce:

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Knowing how meticulous you are with preventative maintenance, it should serve you for a long, long time.

Two things though : if you have some sort of rubber «seal» that looks like a weatherstrip under the outer lip of the rear fenders (mine had that, the Outback might not have that), remove that. It will accumulate dirt, debris, road salt and moisture, and your rear fenders will rust.

Also, the spark plugs are a pain to change (especially those at the back of the engine), because the boxer engine sits low, and the plugs are placed horizontally, right at the level of the subframe rails, yet they are deep within the head.

On mine, you need a 3-inch extension to get to the plug, but the very same extension will hit the frame rails as you unscrew the plug, preventing it removal. So halfway during the process, you have to switch to a 2.5 inch extension, and finally a 2-inch one to allow enough wiggle room to remove the plugs.

A 5 minute job on a normal 4-banger, a 1-hour ordeal on this one.

Oh well. The rest of the car is easy to work on. I swap my suspension every fall and spring (sportier setup during summer) and it's a breeze.

Cheers!

Thanks Hugo for the fender rubber seal tip, I'll take a look.

What you're describing about the spark plug servicing ordeal can't possibly be worse than my '66 Corvette coupe with factory air.



Somewhere under all those hoses, fittings and compressor...



...are spark plugs! They have to be serviced from under the car, no way can you reach them from above, and the radio shielding needs to come off first. Even from underneath they can't be seen, it's all done by feel with multiple tool changes during the procedure just as you have to.

When it's all done your hands are ****** stumps, all sliced up from Chevrolet's evil genius engineers placement of meat slicers in various strategic areas. Not for the faint of heart! But is it ever rewarding when you finally do accomplish the task and live to tell the tale! :rocker:

Thanks again Hugo.

Thomas
 
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Gents,

What do you have to complain about with spark plug changes? GM actually sold a car in the late 1970's-early 80's; they stuffed a small block V8 into a Chevy Monza, small car. The engine actually had to be removed in order to change spark plugs, ahh! progress!!
 

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We have a similar problem on Aston Martin V12s, both inlet manifolds have to come off to access the plugs. Considering the back third of the engine is under the bulkhead / windscreen it's a similar job to the '66 Corvette re. doing it by feel and losing pints of blood. I have just about ever variant of 8mm socket and wrench/spanner Snap On sell to do that job!


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Gents,

What do you have to complain about with spark plug changes? GM actually sold a car in the late 1970's-early 80's; they stuffed a small block V8 into a Chevy Monza, small car. The engine actually had to be removed in order to change spark plugs, ahh! progress!!

Actually you didn't have to remove it. Put it up on a hoist. Support the engine. Remove the motor mount bolts. Jack the engine up 2"-3". You can now gain access to the plugs. Buick GN and GNX is another fun one. Engine cold, easy peasy. Engine warm, forget it unless you like the smell of burnt flesh even with welding gloves on. Engine hot, go for movie and come back when the turbo is cooled down. I worked for a tuneup shop for a while back in the eighties.
 

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Actually you didn't have to remove it. Put it up on a hoist. Support the engine. Remove the motor mount bolts. Jack the engine up 2"-3". You can now gain access to the plugs. Buick GN and GNX is another fun one. Engine cold, easy peasy. Engine warm, forget it unless you like the smell of burnt flesh even with welding gloves on. Engine hot, go for movie and come back when the turbo is cooled down. I worked for a tuneup shop for a while back in the eighties.

Turbo Buicks are really that bad, I own one.:thumbup: The earlier ones (78-84) are harder than the 86-87 cars.:p Some of the mini vans these days are near impossible to change the plugs. I think it was a Chrysler with either the 3.3 or 3.8 engine that you had to start from the top, and then go under to finish it.:willy_nil
 

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Re: Beltsville Shell Readership Update

Once Craptain is done, here's the latest mailing list for BS 1.0

- DRRummel - Maryland
- bluestripe67 - Washington, DC

Then to Australia

- Lyndon - Sydney, Australia
- VMX42 - Sydney, Australia
- 1/2 Cup - Shepparton. Victoria. Australia
- Nursepeter1973 - Western Australia
- Gatsby - Canberra, Australia

Then to New Zealand

- williamhamilton - Wairarapa, New Zealand

Once it returns from its 2nd New Zealand tour and all our Southern Hemisphere friends, BS 1.0 will begin on its 3rd USA/Canadian tour starting with...

- tkbowman - Burien, Washington
- 56vette461 - Northern California
- jbmatth - Northern Oklahoma
- THOM AA - Central Florida

Many thanks to all our Australian friends for working out a friendly, logical mailing plan. Also thanks to William in New Zealand for being so patient.

When bluestripe67 is done and he sends BS to Philo, I'll get a scan of the front and rear covers to document all of its journeys up to now and post them. I'll also take it to my friendly neighborhood book binder, Chris Hohn, to have some additional blank sign off pages installed and have him re-bind a page or two that has come loose. Then it'll be good to go across the Pacific to Lyndon once more.

It was Mike Oberst's idea when he started all this over 3 years ago in October, 2012. Still going stong Mike with no sign of folks losing interest in participating in the "Brotherhood of the Traveling Book" as Cary Thomas puts it. :bounce:

Thomas

Ohh, oh, it looks like I've been voted off the island. :sad:
 

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Thanks Hugo for the fender rubber seal tip, I'll take a look.

What you're describing about the spark plug servicing ordeal can't possibly be worse than my '66 Corvette coupe with factory air.



Somewhere under all those hoses, fittings and compressor...



...are spark plugs! They have to be serviced from under the car, no way can you reach them from above, and the radio shielding needs to come off first. Even from underneath they can't be seen, it's all done by feel with multiple tool changes during the procedure just as you have to.

When it's all done your hands are ****** stumps, all sliced up from Chevrolet's evil genius engineers placement of meat slicers in various strategic areas. Not for the faint of heart! But is it ever rewarding when you finally do accomplish the task and live to tell the tale! :rocker:

Thanks again Hugo.

Thomas
Yikes!

I stand corrected!

Sometimes, you can't help but wonder who came up with whatever ludicrous ideas we find in our cars, the bean counters, or some engineer wanting to make history? :dunno:

For instance, on my Legacy, you have to jack up the front of the car slightly and dismantle the undertray under the front bumper to change the fog light bulbs (I think the Outback's design is different though).

On older BMW 7 series (E32 era), the battery is under the rear seat. Very convenient for weight distribution and packaging, not so much when you need to change it or get a boost (and someone doesn't know if you have additional terminals elsewhere).

Wanna change the timing chain on an Audi B5 S4? Pull the engine.

*sigh*
 
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Was Someone Trying To Tell BBChevro Something???

Ohh, oh, it looks like I've been voted off the island. :sad:

The really sad part was...... you just got here! :willy_nil

- Lyndon - Sydney, Australia
- VMX42 - Sydney, Australia
- 1/2 Cup - Shepparton. Victoria. Australia
- Nursepeter1973 - Western Australia
- BBChevro - Brisbane, Qld., Australia
- Gatsby - Canberra, Australia

There you go, all fixed. I have no idea how these things happen, I really don't...... but then again, if I can't install a switch-plate cover straight it shouldn't be allllll that surprising now should it?! :dunno:
Geez..........can't wait to see what's in sort for me at the new house........there will be lots of stuff there for me to mess up, lots and lots......*sigh*

Trying harder Thomas
 
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Just getting caught up on your thread - thanks for sharing the pictures of Coffman Corvette - too cool!

Welcome back Jeff. Yeah, the Coffman story is pretty cool stuff. That's one of the reasons I like to "get behind the counter" so to speak, and find out some background information on people I come into contact with. When I was flying for Continental I made some terrific contacts with seemingly ordinary people all over the world by just reaching out a little. That I miss.

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Yikes!

I stand corrected!

Sometimes, you can't help but wonder who came up with whatever ludicrous ideas we find in our cars, the bean counters, or some engineer wanting to make history? :dunno:

The biggest problem with the Corvette is it's a very small car. There isn't much room for extra "stuff" under the hood. Here's my '64 Impala with factory A/C...



...vrs the Corvette factory A/C.



The Impala has essentially the same GM Frigidaire A/C system as the Corvette but with more physical room in the engine compartment for the A/C components.



Even with A/C, servicing everything in the Impala is pretty easy, spark plugs....easy-peasy. With a wide engine bay, there's plenty of room to reach under the compressor and the hoses are routed out of the way.

I'll give the Corvette engineers credit though for at least being able to shoehorn that A/C system in there, and you can service everything but it's a true pain in the a$$. In order to put the A/C in the Corvette they did have to move the battery over to the opposite, drivers side of the engine compartment vrs non A/C cars.

Thomas
 

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Lets see if I have this spark plug tale of whoa correct.:confused: I see a corvette, an Aston-Martin, a turbo Buick, a one of production car and an Impala, ... did I miss something. :dunno: All classic in their own way, heart throbs to hundreds of car enthusiasts, and all you all's is complaining, ouch :lol_hitti
 

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The biggest problem with the Corvette is it's a very small car. There isn't much room for extra "stuff" under the hood. Here's my '64 Impala with factory A/C...

The Impala has essentially the same GM Frigidaire A/C system as the Corvette but with more physical room in the engine compartment for the A/C components.

Even with A/C, servicing everything in the Impala is pretty easy, spark plugs....easy-peasy. With a wide engine bay, there's plenty of room to reach under the compressor and the hoses are routed out of the way.

I'll give the Corvette engineers credit though for at least being able to shoehorn that A/C system in there, and you can service everything but it's a true pain in the a$$. In order to put the A/C in the Corvette they did have to move the battery over to the opposite, drivers side of the engine compartment vrs non A/C cars.

Thomas

Thomas -

A bit off topic, but what about a big block C2 with A/C? Believe A/C was an option with the 390/400 hp 427 in the 66-67 cars. Had an L72 in my '66, but no A/C of course, so plugs weren't hard to get to.

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BS 1.0 is really adding up some miles. It is such a good read I think I'll order a personal copy to it read again.

We had an Esso station in my home town that was similar to Beltsville Shell. There weren't any vettes but some other pretty cool cars.

The C5 vette is way easier to work on than many of the earlier vettes but not nearly as cool as the ones like yours Thomas.
Replacing the oil pressure sender is a real trick on the C5.
 

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How many switch-plates are going to be in the new house? potential problems, we might have to get Miss Chriss to help you with them.
 

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Guys, you are correct of course, I am very very lucky to work on other peoples Astons every day. Especially for road testing!
But it doesn't stop you wondering if designers/engineers ever stop and think for a minute about the implications of what they do to the continuing welfare of someone else's hands and frustration levels! I hate thoughtless manufacturing....
 

Hemihead2

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Changing the plugs in a Sunbeam Tiger (Ford 260 V8 in an Alpine, if you're not familiar with it), while not as difficult as described on some of the other cars mentioned here, it had an access hole in the driver side foot well to get at the rear plug on that side of the engine. Remove the rubber plug covering that hole, push the brake pedal in then with a long extension and a universal on the end with the spark plug socket to remove and replace the plugs. Some thought that was a special factory installed plug that never required replacing.
 

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Thomas -

A bit off topic, but what about a big block C2 with A/C? Believe A/C was an option with the 390/400 hp 427 in the 66-67 cars. Had an L72 in my '66, but no A/C of course, so plugs weren't hard to get to.

Scott

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Fat motor Corvettes are relatively easy to change the plugs even with C60 = Air Conditioning. The Big Block spark plugs are above the exhaust manifolds where the plugs on small blocks are under the exhaust manifolds. The big block spark plug shielding is braided spark plug wires, although some years have heat shields around the spark plugs. The small block ignition shielding covers the spark plugs and wires on small blocks.

Most small block Corvettes quickly lose their spark plug shielding at the first spark plug/wire change. That gives us restorers fits years down the road.
Terry
 
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