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Wow, what an awesome shop!

I remember seeing this thread when it was still on its first page and then missed all the updates after that. Awesome to see how it's come together. I take it you haven't got the tractor/car side concreted yet?
 
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Wow, what an awesome shop!

I remember seeing this thread when it was still on its first page and then missed all the updates after that. Awesome to see how it's come together. I take it you haven't got the tractor/car side concreted yet?

Thanks mate! It's been my sanity for a while with everything that I am going through. It brings me some inner peace. I haven't done the other side yet as I would like winter and the thaw to settle the soil and gravel as much as possible. There were probably twenty or more posts 3' into the ground in different spots. I filled them and they need time.
 
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So here's some of what's going on with me. Since the car accident and three surgeries ago, my work life has changed dramatically. I haven't been able to work a lot and since I was a pretty strong and capable guy before that, I have been having one hell of a time with depression. The accident was December of 2012 and I'm self employed so no benefits; the insurance company hasn't come through with a dime yet and times are pretty tight right now. Not only that but my customers are veering away from me as I am now the mechanic with the bad back. They call in other companies to do the repairs to their dry cleaning machinery.

It all feels like a downward spiral right now and the stuff that I'm able to do in the shop kind of keeps me going. I guess it makes me feel like I still have some worth on this Earth; it's very satisfying to take something and make it "shiny" again. So, I'm wondering if I should start to take restoration work a bit more seriously and try to make additional money on it. I guess that I have a unique range of trained skills that make this type of work possible. I've pretty much done it all in my past from tool and die, automotive machining, electronics, R&D, CAD and CAM, hot rodding, instrumentation, automation, plumbing, painting cars and machinery, etc.

If I don't figure something out soon, I think I might kind of give up. Feeling pretty dismayed right now. I hate to get too personal on a site but need to reach out.
 

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So here's some of what's going on with me. Since the car accident and three surgeries ago, my work life has changed dramatically. I haven't been able to work a lot and since I was a pretty strong and capable guy before that, I have been having one hell of a time with depression. The accident was December of 2012 and I'm self employed so no benefits; the insurance company hasn't come through with a dime yet and times are pretty tight right now. Not only that but my customers are veering away from me as I am now the mechanic with the bad back. They call in other companies to do the repairs to their dry cleaning machinery.

It all feels like a downward spiral right now and the stuff that I'm able to do in the shop kind of keeps me going. I guess it makes me feel like I still have some worth on this Earth; it's very satisfying to take something and make it "shiny" again. So, I'm wondering if I should start to take restoration work a bit more seriously and try to make additional money on it. I guess that I have a unique range of trained skills that make this type of work possible. I've pretty much done it all in my past from tool and die, automotive machining, electronics, R&D, CAD and CAM, hot rodding, instrumentation, automation, plumbing, painting cars and machinery, etc.

If I don't figure something out soon, I think I might kind of give up. Feeling pretty dismayed right now. I hate to get too personal on a site but need to reach out.

Sorry to hear about your situation. You certainly seem like a very capable guy, so keep your head up.

Given your skill-set, restoration for a living is certainly something to give a good amount consideration to. This will primarily be dependent on what your local market bares. Do you have people who will pay $700-1000 for a well restored drill press? Perhaps consider looking into what people will spend labor on restoring such as gas pumps, pedal cars, and the like. If you can find a niche market, and fulfill the demand, I think you'll be on your way to success.

All the best.

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Everyone gets humbled once in awhile. You are very capable. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and you will get it figured out, I'm certain of that.
 

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With your skill set and eye for detail you will be able to do the fix and flip for cash thing if that's what your thinking.
A shop and tools are already there.........


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This is my first post on this forum (though I've been reading it since 2013). Your thread is such an inspiration to me. As you already mentioned "It brings me some inner peace." I get exactly the same feeling every time I get updates.

So, I'm wondering if I should start to take restoration work a bit more seriously and try to make additional money on it. I guess that I have a unique range of trained skills that make this type of work possible

I suggest to check how much guys who refurbish machinery (mills, lathes, surface grinders) take for their job in your area. Considering you have outstanding skills for cosmetic restoration, you will have to get some hand/power scraping skills (or find someone who'll do it for you) + invest in measuring tools (straight edges, indicators etc) & make special tool for tailstock reboring if you take it seriously.

Here in Ukraine I know guys who ask ~$1000 for one lathe (double that for a mill) and it takes 3 working days to restore it to sufficient accuracy. All their tools fit in a small van so they can do their job on a customer's site. I have no doubts prices in Canada are way higher.

On the other hand you already have an awesome barn where you can produce something (Like this for example). Production is probably better as it's a bit more relaxed job and if organized right - more profitable. I belive many people here will support you.

Kind regards & greetings from Ukraine!
 

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Sorry to hear what's going on friend. There's some great thoughts and advice so far so can't add much except to say you've got a lot going for you,you are great at what you do and keep your head up, everything will turn out fine.
 

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You've got a comprehensive electromechanical skill set and a wonderful facility. You also have attention to detail.
Having a bad back is slowing you down and there is a stigma attached to it as well. This *****.
On the other hand, there are lots and lots of things that people value and many of them are not heavy. I think if you do some homework you'll find things you can buy, repair and resell to make some money.
Doing service calls for any sort of business is stressful. They need things back to running RIGHT NOW. This may not be a great fit but your skills are still damned valuable.
Doing restoration work for yourself seems to make you happy. Try to find areas where you can do it for other people, or restore items for sale on Ebay, and I bet you'll find that customers are a bit more patient.
 

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Restoration work HELL YEAH !!

think you are MORE than qualified and your WORK speaks for itself, people see that and would not even question your abilities !! i wouldn't !! lots of old tools & equipment out there, and restoration is a big business
 
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Thanks guys, it's nice to have the feedback and some great options as well. There were some very generous comments and I want everyone to know that I read them all and took them to heart.

When I was in a corporate environment for a short bit, I did some teaching with a management training program. I really enjoy the teaching and could see that happening but not sure how to get into it or if you need a teaching degree to do it. I suppose that it's possible to do both the restoration work as well as teaching.

I suppose in posting this, I was kind of trying to explain why I'm on such a restoration kick right now. Sometimes I just sit at the computer and tell myself to get off my *** and other times I stand in the shop and have to push myself to do stuff. I don't want people to think that I'm boasting with the stuff I've been doing but it feels good to share it and it reminds me that I need to keep going. It's kind of therapeutic and it feels great to be doing skilled stuff again.

So thanks for listening and back to the previously scheduled program.
 
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Today one of my tractors moved on to its new home. The John Deere 425 that I have was the only one that I almost wanted to part with right now and it brought in some much needed cash.
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I also started on the conversion of my drill press to a variable speed with, I hope, a foot operated forward/reverse. It's fully disassembled now and new bearings are all installed. I still find it kind of weird that I've had all of the one size (6204) sitting there for years and I'm finding that nearly everything that I have been working on uses that size. Kind of cool!
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The motor that is going on it is a 1.3 HP motor that was on a dry cleaning machine for spinning the filters. It's a flange mount with 3/4" shaft and the old motor had a 5/8" shaft. I bored out the pulley and managed to go a bit too large so I had to sleeve it. Not a bad thing since a steel sleeve will be tougher than the cast iron bore.

I didn't have a small boring bar so I made this one with the grinder that I just finished.
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This is the bracket for mounting the motor. I got to use the mill for some real work and enjoyed it quite a bit. It's been a while since I have done this sort of work. For the bend in the bracket, I heated up a line with the torch and then bent it by hand. I also christened my belt sander and loved it. The foot pedal is awesome to have.
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It's actually further along than this but I got called for dinner and didn't get more photos. The main housing, base and brackets are sandblasted and the spindle and pulley support bearings are all installed.
 

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T, I sat at the keyboard thinking a bit about how to respond to your posts. First of all, the sander is a real work of art :). You are miles ahead of the game already as you have passion, motivation and real skill.

I believe planning is a very powerful tool. It also sounds like there is work to do to get your insurance situation sorted, and find a way to channel your skills in a way that will be helpful to others, and also provide a living.

It sounds like you would love teaching. The good news is that colleges are always looking for folks with actual skill to teach. You have a great tool that many others do not in terms of a reference..namely this thread! I have to believe there is a market for the tools you are rebuilding. If the parent company is still around, you might start with contacting them directly to see what transpires. Kijiji is free, and you already have great pics.

I might suggest sitting down and defining where you want changes. Break these down into the top two or three. Populate these 2-3 with action items, timelines, and reward yourself for hitting your goals. I'd also can consider a call to Telehealth and see what free resources they might point you to.

I'm a firm believer that the only difference between success and failure, is your attitude. These challenges always lead to personal learning and growth..and this is a good thing. Reading this entire thread, it's obvious that you have vision, the ability to execute, and a work ethic that prevails despite the pain that you are in. You are also humble enough to ask for help when you need it. These attributes make you very attractive to a prospective employer or customer if that's the direction you are looking to.

The journal here can be impersonal, but also tremendously motivating. You likely don't realize it, but your thread has inspired many...and folks have gotten off their butts after reading your posts. I'm one of them. There is great beauty in the mindfulness that results in patient craft, and excellence. It's everywhere in your shop, the projects, and your writing :)
 
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T, I sat at the keyboard thinking a bit about how to respond to your posts. First of all, the sander is a real work of art :). You are miles ahead of the game already as you have passion, motivation and real skill.

I believe planning is a very powerful tool. It also sounds like there is work to do to get your insurance situation sorted, and find a way to channel your skills in a way that will be helpful to others, and also provide a living.

It sounds like you would love teaching. The good news is that colleges are always looking for folks with actual skill to teach. You have a great tool that many others do not in terms of a reference..namely this thread! I have to believe there is a market for the tools you are rebuilding. If the parent company is still around, you might start with contacting them directly to see what transpires. Kijiji is free, and you already have great pics.

I might suggest sitting down and defining where you want changes. Break these down into the top two or three. Populate these 2-3 with action items, timelines, and reward yourself for hitting your goals. I'd also can consider a call to Telehealth and see what free resources they might point you to.

I'm a firm believer that the only difference between success and failure, is your attitude. These challenges always lead to personal learning and growth..and this is a good thing. Reading this entire thread, it's obvious that you have vision, the ability to execute, and a work ethic that prevails despite the pain that you are in. You are also humble enough to ask for help when you need it. These attributes make you very attractive to a prospective employer or customer if that's the direction you are looking to.

The journal here can be impersonal, but also tremendously motivating. You likely don't realize it, but your thread has inspired many...and folks have gotten off their butts after reading your posts. I'm one of them. There is great beauty in the mindfulness that results in patient craft, and excellence. It's everywhere in your shop, the projects, and your writing :)

Thanks Dennis! That is a great response and it's really appreciated. I kind of wonder sometimes if others are reading the thread and I'm flattered to know that it's actually motivating others to get things done. I kind of feel like it's more of a monologue than dialogue at times.
 

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I suppose you could look at the thread count vs the responses, but I bet the ratio of reads to responses is in the 20:1 range. You could look at the journal as just that..a personal visual journal to remind you of just how much progress has been made. Pretty much every project has a learning component so sharing these discoveries perhaps fulfills some altruistic needs along the way :)
 
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Thanks Dennis! That is a great response and it's really appreciated. I kind of wonder sometimes if others are reading the thread and I'm flattered to know that it's actually motivating others to get things done. I kind of feel like it's more of a monologue than dialogue at times.


It's more monologue for me because I have nothing to add... If I thought I could improve your shop space or your other refurbish projects I'd chime in. But you have talents and patience far above my rating.



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I really like the ratio of story to photos your post has had. I also like the common color theme that you have arrived on. It is very soothing to inject a bit of design into the shop. I suggest that you start selling some on EBay. There is no start up costs and it is surprising what will sell and for how much. The costs are minimal and it is a great way to pare down the collection of things you might not use any more. Once that you have the eBay shop going, expand to Etsy. There you can sell items you make. Hand made or vintage items only. Both sites have excellent tutorials explaining all the processes. A few hours in the morning or evening and you can work out in the shop the rest of the time. All the best!
 
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A little progress on the drill press. I've laid down some paint (yes, burnt orange and blue) since these photos and it's coming along nicely.

I am going to have to experiment with some other colours soon though. I'm kind of torn on whether to keep going with the theme or vary it up a bit.

The post was a bit of a challenge until I remembered that I have a steady rest and it would probably fit on the lathe. A few minutes with some emery cloth and good as new. I tried to get the post base off (even with heat) and it wouldn't budge. So it went along for the ride.
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I couldn't get the rivets out in one piece so I ground the heads off and then lifted the labels. I then used a technique that I have used a lot for removing broken bolts and screws. Since it's cast iron, the chance of welding to it is small. It works great with aluminum as well. I use the TIG welder to build up a blob and then hold it with ViseGrips.
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Thanks! I'm not sure where I'm going to put it yet but I would like to have it on the middle of the wall. Problem is, I can't make a hole in the wall and it'll stick out from the wall a fair bit. Might have to build a box for it so it looks okay.

I'm a little late on the reply here... oh well. My original plan with the gauge was to a direct mount right off the tubing, and that is what I did with my two smaller gauges, but the 6in-er seemed a bit too heavy for that. I'm guessing its 15lbs, give or take. If yours isn't too heavy, that is what I'd suggest.

If I might add my .02 on your situation, a few years ago I took my first job that was significantly outside of my home area. Several months in my boss decided it was time to inform me that she disapproved of just about everything I did, how it did it, blah blah blah. To say the least I wasn't really sure what to do after that. Long story short, it became a life changing moment, I ultimately went back to school and took things in an entirely different direction.

Being an able bodied male I understand the desire to use whatever tool and you're strong back and get her done. It sounds like you have good mechanical skills, and maybe this is the time you start thinking about working smarter, not harder.
 
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And now onto the electrical work. This drill press was a lot easier to rebuild than the Rockwell belt sander that I just did. My wife actually thought that it was a new machine when she saw it today. That's a good thing unless you get blamed for buying a new machine I guess.:lol:

The belt guard is going to require some changes and I also have to build an enclosure for the VFD and such. I think I have a foot pedal for it and I have decided that it will be a simple forward/reverse function. I'll mount a pot on the enclosure.
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The table came out better than I thought it would.
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Nice drill press, I got the same one, now I may have to restore it. LOL

I can give you some pointers if you decide to do it. I have found it to be a fairly decent drill press but always lacked in power. The new motor should make a huge difference and I'm really looking forward the variable speed. When using larger hole saws, it wouldn't go slow enough and small bits wouldn't spin fast enough. I'm also looking forward to the ability to power tap with it. I really miss having that ability.
 

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That drill press is looking really good! But you need to slow down in your Barn because your making the rest of us look bad :lol: You have been busy :beer:
 

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I never spend any time in the Garage Gallery, but I clicked on the link in your signature block and got sucked in! An hour later and I'm at page 5. Need to quit for now so I can get some work done and go home!
 
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Thanks guys and nice to see you here bulletproof. I have the tag and its not in bad shape. i'm a bit stuck on what to do with it though. it has the speeds listed on it which don't apply anymore.
 

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Hello Techie,
I've finally been able to get through your entire thread and what a neat place you have. I was interested when I realized you're a fellow Ontarian (actually went to school not far away at UOIT in Oshawa) and was hooked when I realized you were going to be doing concrete work on your floor. Ever since, I couldn't stop reading. Your shop is truely unique like many others have mentioned. Everything from the insulation, to the door builds, to the tool restorations have kept me wondering what you'll build or bring back to life next.

As for your situation, I think you have a tonne of options because of your skillset. Everything from milling a product to sell, to teaching or finding some loaded person to maintain their prized possessions. If you were a little closer and I had a lot higher income I'd hire you in a heartbeat to get my garage looking even a fraction as good as yours. I know what it's like to deal with depression (especially this time of year), but keep plugging away. Something good will come.

If there's anything I can help with (or any tools you need stored for a while :p ), I'm just down the 401.

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I don't know how I managed to miss this thread up until now.

WOW!

Amazing job, both on the shop and the tools.

I was all giddy until post #484. Sorry to hear about your situation. It makes no sense that you haven't got any insurance money three years after your accident.

I take it that things are before the courts, hence why it's dragging on?

Are you unable to work, or is it just tougher? With those skills, there's got to be something you can do that won't strain your back as much?

Best of luck, and congratulations from a fellow Canadian (let's hope you don't hate Quebecers...).

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Thanks fellow Canucks and good to hear from both of you. Thanks especially to Foster for his very generous offer to store my tools for me.:thumbup: I'll keep you in mind buddy.

Thanks so much for the kind words guys. For the most part, I'm able to work as can be seen by what I have done so far. Often a rest is needed just because my back aches a lot or one or both of my feet go numb too much. In the work that I do, it's pretty much all breakdown type service calls. When the customer is down, they need someone now to get it sorted out and running again. So during my multiple times where I was out of commission, they found others to do the work for them. After back at things enough to get by, I wasn't able to do the lifting and bending that I could so I had to turn down some jobs. Eventually they give up on you and find someone that can do it all for them.

I too can't believe the court delays. I thought that okay, 2-3 years was normal but now it's past the three year point by a few months and still nothing. Problem seems to be that once they define the damage, I end up back in the hospital and it has a new scope to it. Then it gets delayed while they request another court date. F'ing frustrating.

I had a nice opportunity the last few days. I'm at the airport in Newfoundland right now about to head home. I sold them a couple dry cleaning machines about 8 years ago and I needed to come out here to train and consult on them. Yay! Some money coming in. What I found was that it really helped my depression to get out and feel useful again. They were very receptive and felt it was really worth having me out.

If only there were more people that need industrial training as well as lean manufacturing, TPS, etc. I like doing that stuff.

I think that "hate:" is a strong word Hugo. :lol_hitti If you were my ex MIL, maybe, but I won't hold the whole province against you.:beer: Actually, even my ex MIL wasn't bad at all but I had to take a dig at someone and who doesn't like to hate their ex mother in law. :dunno:
 

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Great job on the drill press as usual. Sorry to hear about the health/court issues, but sounds like your dealing with it as well as can be done. Enjoy your posts over on HM forum as well. Really looking forward to getting home to my shop, and projects, under two months now. Cheers, Mike
 

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Thanks fellow Canucks and good to hear from both of you. Thanks especially to Foster for his very generous offer to store my tools for me.:thumbup: I'll keep you in mind buddy.

Thanks so much for the kind words guys. For the most part, I'm able to work as can be seen by what I have done so far. Often a rest is needed just because my back aches a lot or one or both of my feet go numb too much. In the work that I do, it's pretty much all breakdown type service calls. When the customer is down, they need someone now to get it sorted out and running again. So during my multiple times where I was out of commission, they found others to do the work for them. After back at things enough to get by, I wasn't able to do the lifting and bending that I could so I had to turn down some jobs. Eventually they give up on you and find someone that can do it all for them.

I too can't believe the court delays. I thought that okay, 2-3 years was normal but now it's past the three year point by a few months and still nothing. Problem seems to be that once they define the damage, I end up back in the hospital and it has a new scope to it. Then it gets delayed while they request another court date. F'ing frustrating.

I had a nice opportunity the last few days. I'm at the airport in Newfoundland right now about to head home. I sold them a couple dry cleaning machines about 8 years ago and I needed to come out here to train and consult on them. Yay! Some money coming in. What I found was that it really helped my depression to get out and feel useful again. They were very receptive and felt it was really worth having me out.

If only there were more people that need industrial training as well as lean manufacturing, TPS, etc. I like doing that stuff.

I think that "hate:" is a strong word Hugo. :lol_hitti If you were my ex MIL, maybe, but I won't hold the whole province against you.:beer: Actually, even my ex MIL wasn't bad at all but I had to take a dig at someone and who doesn't like to hate their ex mother in law. :dunno:


Glad to hear that you've been able to get some work done. It does indeed gives one a purpose.

It's very sad that our throwaway society has replaced knowledge and true craftsmen by simpler, crappier, chinese-made sh!t...

I hear ya about court delays, I'm a litigation lawyer, so...

I have nothing but good words for my fellow canuckleheads. Quebecers are often perceived negatively outside of La Belle Province, but as I grow older, I love Canada more and more, and have met nothing but great people, wherever I've been. I have also been treated with the utmost respect by other canadians as well.

If you're ever in Québec City, beer's on me!

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Great job on the drill press as usual. Sorry to hear about the health/court issues, but sounds like your dealing with it as well as can be done. Enjoy your posts over on HM forum as well. Really looking forward to getting home to my shop, and projects, under two months now. Cheers, Mike

Great work on the drill press! I hope things improve for you work and health wise.

Thanks guys! I genuinely appreciate the compliments.
 
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