Sylax sealant versus ghost shield siloxatek
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LegacyIndustrial
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Silax-Seal can be rolled or sprayed, completely transparent and begins shedding water and protecting against stains immediately. Forms a protective membrane within the pores of the concrete. It is a budget friendly product as well!!
http://www.legacyindustrial.net/products/concrete-sealers/silaxseal.html
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LegacyIndustrial
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Hose it clean. Pressure wash would be good but not required.
No etch or other prep.
Spray apply or roll. Use a pump-up sprayer (bugs/decks).
No etch or other prep.
Spray apply or roll. Use a pump-up sprayer (bugs/decks).
Garage Flooring
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HUGE DIFFERENCES between the various products. Just within our inventory we have a half dozen silane siloxane sealers and they are all very different. Just like with medicine, you have different strengths (in this case percentage of active ingredients) You have some that are mixed with true densifiers while others are not.
The real key becomes what you are looking to accomplish. For example, if you told me you wanted to protect your sidewalks, or even your driveway against freeze-thaw, a product like TL39 would be absolutely perfect.
If you told me that you wanted to protect your garage from water infiltration and freeze thaw, still works great. If you were concerned about various chemicals building up from ice melt, etc, I would make a different suggestion. IF you drive a car that leaks oil, or you expect oil to get on the garage floor, a densifier followed by 8505 is a better choice.
Almost all of these products use silane and siloxane in them for great protection. Products like TL40 add polymers as well. 8505 adds specific Fluorocarbon designed to specifically petroleum based automotive products.
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All good suggestions....
Important to note the Silax-Seal has a densifier base. So really, two products in one.
Important to note the Silax-Seal has a densifier base. So really, two products in one.
So I've been thinking about this product for my garage... seems it might do the trick?
http://www.legacyindustrial.net/products/densifiers/hd40-concrete-stainguard.html
And just to clarify, it will be a garage where cars will be worked on...
I also have a wood shop... Should I just get the Silax-Seal?
http://www.legacyindustrial.net/products/densifiers/hd40-concrete-stainguard.html
And just to clarify, it will be a garage where cars will be worked on...
I also have a wood shop... Should I just get the Silax-Seal?
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encantofred
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so the product in the link here will guard a garage floor against basic spills and keep it from staining from water based things?
does the floor have to be diamond ground if it has been power trowled?
tom
does the floor have to be diamond ground if it has been power trowled?
tom
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Yes sir. Oils as well.
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The penetrating sealer and densifier product lines are very confusing, and competing claims from various manufacturers does not help the issue. Lucky for you you are on a forum with some great resources.
Please request a FULL data sheet and MSDS sheet before ordering any product. Not a marketing sheet, but a data sheet. It should look something like what we have posted on our TL40 Concrete conditioner and Stain Guard http://www.garageflooringllc.com/resource-center-docs/epoxy/TL40.pdf
Have a look at the active ingredients and the percentages. You really need to do your homework on this stuff.
Please send me a PM or give me a call if you need some help. Regardless of where you get your product it is important to know exactly what you are getting.
Please request a FULL data sheet and MSDS sheet before ordering any product. Not a marketing sheet, but a data sheet. It should look something like what we have posted on our TL40 Concrete conditioner and Stain Guard http://www.garageflooringllc.com/resource-center-docs/epoxy/TL40.pdf
Have a look at the active ingredients and the percentages. You really need to do your homework on this stuff.
Please send me a PM or give me a call if you need some help. Regardless of where you get your product it is important to know exactly what you are getting.
LegacyIndustrial
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Good talking with you. Can't wait to see the job complete!
Looking for a long lasting, high strength driveway sealer. I live in Kentucky so we do experience some freeze and thaw. We just had our house built and closed in December so this is the first application of a sealer. I have been trying to research Ghostshield but have been getting mixed reviews. Any suggestions please.
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Check out our SilaxSeal.
You will like the performance and the price!!
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We sell a wide range of sealers from ghost shield to siloxane based sealers in multiple strengths. It all comes does to application and what you need. I drive a Chevy. Love it but it leaks. We have two new drivers in the house and needless to say they drive OLD stuff. In those cases a densifier followed by Ghostshield 8505 is a great way to go OR TLPPC TrueLock penetrating urethane.
If you just want to protect it products like Ghostshields more basic product http://www.garageflooringllc.com/lithi-tek-ls-9500-densifier-waterproofer/ or TL39 http://www.garageflooringllc.com/concrete-densifier/ is a great way to go.
I have put it this way in the past with other products. If I said to you I need a vehicle, what is the best one? There is no way you could answer that. Ford dealers are going to try and sell you a Ford product, Chevy a Chevy. ETC. My preference would be to talk to you and know every detail about the project and suggest something that is a good fit for you.
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That product?? TLPPC adds permanent luster/gloss depending on number of coats. Any sealer may darken concrete slightly. Ghostshield 8505 has no true aesthetic value -- but may or may not darken concrete slightly.
polishdevil
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I'm in the same boat, new garage with new concrete. Looking for something that I can apply without grinding or etching that will protect it from salt, oil, as well as other fluids. Need to cover 24x24.
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I think you will find the information above helpful. TLPPC requires no etching or grinding
LegacyIndustrial
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It darkens it slightly.
Here is a recent photo sent in by a GJ member.
It is a normal machine troweled garage floor, nothing crazy.
We have the buffing/burnishing pads as well.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCWbCrWljbj/?taken-by=legacyindustrial
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I'm on the fence about either TL 37 and Ghost Shield 8505 or Silax Seal (As I was told is has a densifer in it). The first option is about 2X the price but if it's a superior combination it's ok with me. Anyone make the choice and reviews?
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Both products are certain to be great, but very different products. Legacy does a great job servicing his customers and I am sure you can't go wrong. I did not want price to be a factor So I traded some emails with the manufacturer this morning and they are willing to offer you a fantastic deal on the 8505 solvent based formulation so that you can come back and answer your own questions about how well it works. Just drop me a PM with your shipping address and remind me about the size of the project and we'll get it going your way.
Ghostshield Siloxa-Tek 8505 is the best concrete sealer for your garage floor. Yep, I said it. The sealer you really want is the Siloxa-Tek 8505. Blasphemy you say? Maybe. The Siloxa-Tek 8505 posses what very few high actives penetrating natural finish silane/siloxane concrete sealers posses, fluoropolymers. Without this modern chemical structure, stain and oil repellency would not be possible. There are low molecular weight fluorinated polymers designed for oil repellency and stain resistance, and they are typically added to everything from carpets to fabrics. So lets recap, not only does Ghostshield’s Siloxa-Tek 8505 have this stain resisting, oil fighting ninja in it’s formula but its also a 40% actives silane/siloxane also making it department of transportation approved. Why is this relative to my garage floor, well if the DOT has guidelines for penetrating sealers then that must mean something, and if that something is important to someone who determines whats important, then its important to me. Especially if it translates into the durability and lifespan of my garage floor which is the whole point of this forum and this post. Now, you may think I am being biased here but I’m not. I also like Prosoco’s SLX 100, it’s sealer also contains a fluoropolymer, but after doing my due diligence and discovering that 5 gallons of the SLX 100 cost over $900.00 you can see why I have concluded that the Siloxa-Tek 8505 is clearly the best way to go.
LegacyIndustrial
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Chris, so how long have you worked for ghost... ?? The chemistry is not proprietary, we all have a version similar. Nice 1st post.
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Hey Chris,
Sooo manufacturers and distributors have historically been allowed to make posts here but the moderators do a very good job ensuring the quality of legitimacy of the posts. IF you are with the manufacturer, just sign your post that way so people know who you are and why your posting