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meatsis

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Another "Welcome back" from me too!

All:
Just listed on C/L
Old style BIG Parker swiveller on truck wheel base asking $500.
Anybody recognize this one? Poor photography looks like maybe model 48 B if there is such a thing ???? (Not on Dayid's list)

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/grd/5481472549.html



My guess would be either a no. 435 or 436. I have 2 of the 436's. Pretty hefty just under 190 lbs. I also have this 434 1/2 mounted which I absolutely love.


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Rossco, the Record should move quick,---5'' jaws and welded steel plate vise for $40.00.---I'd say that was a buy.

Shift, could be #435 or #436.---Hard to tell the size.

Good to hear from you Top.---All work and no vise ain't healthy.
 

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That Record looks like a Record Leader vice but I've not seen one with the curved slide. Interesting.
I have a slightly larger version and they are lovely vices :)
$40 should see someone biting your hand off
 

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I went after a block grinder and came home with 2 grinders, 2 stands and this Desmond Stephans Simplex No.43S. I just happened to have brought enough cash. It’s almost like I anticipated something like this might happen.
 

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Is this an early Athol?
 

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All,

Last week I went to an auction preview at a machine shop in Mt. Carmel, Ill. I posted about a couple of vises that I saw. One was a 5" Reed, with a pivot jaw and a swivel base. Overall condition: it looked rode hard & put away wet, as most of the vises that we find. It was missing a swivel base handle (on the back side), and it had a bolt in place of the original pivot jaw lock pin. This really concerns me about that is the possible cracks in the inside of the pivot jaw due to the extra stress.

Based on the picture I was going to bid on it, until I saw it in person.

The winning bid for that vise was $410.00!:scared::wtf:
Best of luck to the winner.

http://bid.curranmiller.com/view-au...1498977/?url=/view-auctions/catalog/id/11449/
 

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That's quite a stand for it too. How thick is that bottom plate?

I'm surprised at what some people will spend for some vises.
 

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[QUOTE organ;

Is this an early Athol?[/QUOTE]

It's an Athol alright but it looks like the ******* child of an Athol and a Vanderman - both of which I want. I can't say for sure about the Athol but the Vanderman was called a Steamfitter's Vise. Congrats, that was a lucky find.
 

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I've been working a ton of hours not leaving me much time to work up any of my vise inventory but I did manage a trip through the machine shop in the power plant my crane is set up at. Many Vise's and lots other very nice machines, press's , grinders , lathes , mills and such. Most vises were Wilton's or Columbians , A few parkers, 4, 6 and 8 " vise's .There were at least 14 vise's in the shop!

Welcome Back Top
I missed you.....:bounce:
Hemi
 

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Some vise. Some day!

I went after a block grinder and came home with 2 grinders, 2 stands and this Desmond Stephans Simplex No.43S. I just happened to have brought enough cash. It’s almost like I anticipated something like this might happen.
 

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Nice vise CRS, looks a lot like one a picked up recently....:D

I (finally) painted my 5" craftsman that I found in the dirt while buying something else. Hated the color until I painted the lettering. The color reminds me too much of the color craftsman uses on the taiwanie-jonnie vises they sell nowadays.
 

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Nice vise CRS, looks a lot like one a picked up recently....:D

I (finally) painted my 5" craftsman that I found in the dirt while buying something else. Hated the color until I painted the lettering. The color reminds me too much of the color craftsman uses on the taiwanie-jonnie vises they sell nowadays.

It reminded me of one you picked up lately too. I think the color and finish of your Cman is fine. You're right though, the contrast lettering really sets it off.:thumbup:
 

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Nice vise CRS, looks a lot like one a picked up recently....:D

I (finally) painted my 5" craftsman that I found in the dirt while buying something else. Hated the color until I painted the lettering. The color reminds me too much of the color craftsman uses on the taiwanie-jonnie vises they sell nowadays.

I painted a 3" 40's Wilton bullet hammertone black a while back... Someone Implied I needed my man card lifted... :spit:
 

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I like it too! Man I dig those chevrons!

Nice vise CRS, looks a lot like one a picked up recently....:D

I (finally) painted my 5" craftsman that I found in the dirt while buying something else. Hated the color until I painted the lettering. The color reminds me too much of the color craftsman uses on the taiwanie-jonnie vises they sell nowadays.
 

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+1 on the 436 Outlaw.---Castings can alter the looks of numbers and letters a lot of times, and some times be missing altogether.---But the vise is still same.---It is what it is.
 
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[QUOTE organ;

Is this an early Athol?

It's an Athol alright but it looks like the ******* child of an Athol and a Vanderman - both of which I want. I can't say for sure about the Athol but the Vanderman was called a Steamfitter's Vise. Congrats, that was a lucky find.[/QUOTE]

I don't own the vise. My dad sent me a picture of it...
 

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I painted a 3" 40's Wilton bullet hammertone black a while back... Someone Implied I needed my man card lifted... :spit:

What!? That dirty skunk... :D

It's the resemblance to the Chinese craftsman vises that I find distasteful. I actually like the color. And will likely use it again on a different vise. Simplex perhaps....
 

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I couldn't pass up a free vise

I am working in the tropics for a couple of years on contract so I am far away from my garages and shop. I have a couple of Wiltons and an old leg vise in my home shop but I have been looking for something big. I found this free for the taking today. I could not leave it there to continue rusting away. I'm sure it will buff right up :)

Wade
 

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Re: I couldn't pass up a free vise

I am working in the tropics for a couple of years on contract so I am far away from my garages and shop. I have a couple of Wiltons and an old leg vise in my home shop but I have been looking for something big. I found this free for the taking today. I could not leave it there to continue rusting away. I'm sure it will buff right up :)

Wade

That is a rusty one. Looks like a 606 (6" jaws), or maybe bigger?. Glad you could save it.
 

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Re: I couldn't pass up a free vise

That is a rusty one. Looks like a 606 (6" jaws), or maybe bigger?. Glad you could save it.
It is really rusty. I will measure the jaws tonight and see if I can read the nameplate. It was all 2 of us could do to lift it. The island I am on (Tutuila) belonged to the Navy from 1900ish to the 1960's so it probably has a navy background.

Wade
 

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It's interesting the last couple of pages have shown some love for the Columbian vises. They always seem to take a backseat to Wiltons and Parkers. Hollow jaws and lack of style is usually the biggest complaint, however when it comes to form follows function, they are pretty tough to beat.
 

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Fretters: some Wiltons do HAVE hollow jaws, but i'm not sure they all do. the C series vises probably are not hollow jaws but the areas holding the pipe jaws are pretty big.

83: nice save of the Columbian. the vise itself should spiff up pretty easily. the screw looks like it's at least missing a sleeve to hole the screw to the dynamic or the screw or vise nut might have issues. best of luck and welcome to our forum and the vise thread.

Slotard: have you bought any of those vises yet or how many because it seems like you are posting one or two a day? i'd like to own that Reed 106R because my Reed 106 has a small piece missing out of it's jaw and a missing handle.

Hemi: nice work on your Wilton C1 and it should look great on a bench or that nice shelf you built with your other Wilton 500S. :thumbup:
 

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Going to look at a Parker 273 rear swivel jaw on Friday morning. I had placed an ad on Craigslist looking for bench vises and got a response today. Look pretty good from what I can tell. I'm not sure if the pin for the swivel jaw is stuck or not. Anything else besides the normal checking for cracks, mushrooming that I need to pay attention to on it?

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Fretters: some Wiltons do HAVE hollow jaws, but i'm not sure they all do. the C series vises probably are not hollow jaws but the areas holding the pipe jaws are pretty big.

I can never remember what all of the model/series designations are. :D I was just thinking of that cutaway which someone posted in the past. Can't remember which series that was though.
 

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I've bought a couple - an ugly Desmond Stephan and a red 4.5" Reed, and bought a Rigid for a friend (I posted it too). Planning on looking at (and likely buying) a couple more this weekend, but they're near where I am on the weekend rather than during the week (Bay Area during the week, Sac often on weekends). Don't have time to look at that 106R tonight, if he still has it tomorrow I will then.
 

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Originally posted by Fullthrottle29.

It's interesting the last couple of pages have shown some love for the Columbian vises. They always seem to take a backseat to Wiltons and Parkers. Hollow jaws and lack of style is usually the biggest complaint.
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Yep, they are really really hollow, but they don't have to be.:D
 

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Thanks for the welcome....I've been lurking in the shadows for a while. I measured the jaws tonight and its an 8 inch. The model is a 608 or 808 (the first number is doublestruck and hard to read). The cast parts are nice but the steel parts are pretty corroded,nothing a little maching cant fix. If nothing else it will be the worlds coolest doorstop in my shop when I take it back home to South Dakota.
Wade
 

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Agreed it shows as a 486, but the catalog page (not the best, granted) I have says 436? If so its a 6" and I think 185 lbs? :headscrat





From the casting markings I would say yes, but I've never seen one like that from Athol


Yeah it's probably a 436. Paint, dirt, and old grease always distort the casting numbers too. And I have a smaller version 433-1/2.
 
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