30x48x10 Pole Barn Build and Layout

[Livertucky]

We've gone and cleared the trees (including VW sized root balls), built a retaining wall fit for a Chinese emperor to be proud of and are just about to start the actual build and I thought I would get some advice on the layout.

I'll work on getting some pics of the aforementioned site work, but in the meantime I figured I should start thinking about the final layout once it's built.

Main use of the building will be for storing and working on vehicles and I'd like to have a section off to one corner designated for woodworking with a dust collector.

Putting a single entry door on the left side 30' gable end and 3 garage doors on the 48' eave front. Doors are a 16x9 in the middle, flanked by a 10x9 on each side.

Need to be able to park an SUV, full size truck, 1950 F-1 Panel, car hauler(optional), 2 Harleys, a 9' chopper and a trike.

So, I've seen quite a few threads on here and have taken some ideas from several of them, but I'm having trouble getting a functional layout.

Thanks in advance guys and feel free to blast the newbie if you need to.

 

[rick2752]

Put in taller doors....maximize opening based on ceiling height. My 2 cents

 

[Livertucky]

Put in taller doors....maximize opening based on ceiling height. My 2 cents

I was thinking that I would need a foot above for the track and opener. Is there a way to go to the full wall height?

 

[astroracer]

Any reason you can't go 12' on the sidewalls? That would be better if you ever decide you need a hoist.
My initial shop was 30 x 48. I put one 9x9 on a gable end, 4 feet off the back wall, and one 16 x 9 on the long side offset to the other end, 4' off that wall.
Stuffing three big vehicles in there will eat up all of your space real quick. The three ten foot doors will leave about 5 feet between vehicles and walls.
Fire up the grizzly Workshop Planner here:
http://grizzly.com/workshopplanner
It has a lot of canned data that you can use to help visualize your shop plans.
Mark

 

[Livertucky]

Thanks Mark, I'll check out the grizzly! The height decision was based on budget alone. I was able to go wider and still afford to get it done.
I wish I could put a door on the gable end, but based on our property layout, I can only drive up to the side wall.

 

[matt_i]

It could be easier to wall off an entire "slice" of the width for your wood shop. Instead of boxing out a corner...but, if you were to box off the corner, it might make sense to do that to the immediate right or left of the main vehicle entry door. Not sure what makes sense for you. The good news is that you can play with the layout up to the point of making a lot of dust (? hang plastic curtains to check layout?) and then solidify with a more permanent wall.

 

[bullnerd]

You can see an example of the Grizzly layout in the first few pictures in my build in my sig.

 

[lakeroadster]

Your building is similar in size to the one we are currently building, a 30 x 44 x 10.

It always helps to do a layout on grid paper or CAD or whatever you have available to you.

Here's the layout I am using, let me know if I can be of any help. There's a link to the build thread in my signature line below.

 

[Livertucky]

That's a nice shop you have there lake... and I like the idea of hanging plastic to try out different locations before committing to building a wall Matt - Thanks.

We have the shell up and framed out for the garage doors. It's too cold to lay the pad yet so I think I'll spend some time on the wiring schematics and laying out the best locations for the hard lined stuff like compressor, welder and such. I think the easy part is behind me now...

 

[jhochst]

My shop is 32x48x12. I have room upstairs. 10' wide and 6' tall. The ceiling clearance is nice. 3 jack shaft garage doors. Take time planning it out


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[Livertucky]

Well the building is up... I tried uploading pics to an album to show the progress, but it changed the order from how I uploaded the pictures. Have pics from the clearing of the lot through the current stage of having a solid shell. Ready to start laying out my electrical, lighting, work and storage areas. I've gridded it all out on graph paper and think I'm close to getting started.

Here's a pic of the building.View media item 59163
Saving up for floors and doors next!

 

[lakeroadster]

Lookin' good

 

[rburke65]

Save your money for the upgrades. You got time. Build it no while you can enjoy it. You'll get there.

 

[CNGsaves]

Looks like you have aerial electric from PoCo to your house that goes over top of the new pole barn.

I'd sure check into aerial to right side of pole barn for ALL electric to property (ie move meter). Then bury the feed over to the house from the barn. Thus, 200A panel in garage that would feed 100A panel in house.

Dig trench plenty deep so you could backfill and add another conduit for low voltage stuff like CATV (RG6) and internet/phone/security (CAT5e).

 

[Livertucky]

Looks like you have aerial electric from PoCo to your house that goes over top of the new pole barn.QUOTE]

The picture angle is a bit misleading... The line is about 6 ft forward of the far left corner and about 6 ft above it. Plenty of clearance for electric, but the cable TV line is low and got ripped out by the gravel truck. Now that all the big stuff is in, I don't expect any further issues.

The good thing about the building placement is the power only needs to come back 25' to the garage and we'll have juice!

 

[adpprop]

Well the building is up... I tried uploading pics to an album to show the progress, but it changed the order from how I uploaded the pictures. Have pics from the clearing of the lot through the current stage of having a solid shell. Ready to start laying out my electrical, lighting, work and storage areas. I've gridded it all out on graph paper and think I'm close to getting started.

Saving up for floors and doors next!

Now would be the time to take some old pointed sticks and some string and lay out the floor plan like you have it in your head. It will give some sense of the actual sizes.
What I draw on paper or in my head is not what happens in reality. Like life itself it seems.
Should be a nice setup whatever way you do it.

 

[kmoon]

Livertucky

Do you plan on cement floors? or are you keeping the gravel?

 

[Livertucky]

adpprop - That's a great idea! There's all kinds of stuff running around in my head, but if I commit real estate to the items, I may get a better idea of what actually fits and works in the space.

kmoon - Yep, we're going with concrete, once I get the funds...

 

[kmoon]

Livertucky

Where is your avatar picture taken? I work in the wind industry, I am a buyer for wind turbine parts.

 

[Livertucky]

kmoon - That was when I lived in Livermore going up the back side of Altamont pass. It was always pretty cool riding up there and watching those machines whirl.

 

[kmoon]

Livertucky,

That's where I work and those are the machines my company owns.

 

[Livertucky]

OK, summer has come and I need to get serious about insulating the garage. Need some ideas on the most economical methods to insulate and cool the place.

Right now I have bubble wrap under the roof and plan on leaving the trusses open. Walls are going to be sheeted in OSB painted white.

Building is in East TN so it does get humid and I like to have the bay doors open while working so I'm not looking at A/C just good quiet(ish) fans to cool the work area.

Any ideas or links to posts on GJ would be appreciated.