Where are NEIKO TOOLS made in?

[1982fxr]

Neiko tools USA are NOT made in USA. Yet USA is plastered all over everything---logos, advertising and even the actual imported products.

http://www.toolplanet.com/product/N...nGB9I50nZhV3SMBkiK_Axlj9LiuHkF4LMKBoCsGDw_wcB

Right there on the roll pouch---in big letters USA. Gee, wonder why they do that? To deceive consumers. They use USA more prominently than most actual American manufacturers do.

 

[1982fxr]

I guess you should rule these folks out too
http://kokenusa.com/

1. I would never compare Koken to neiko

2. Koken says right there on the front page MADE IN JAPAN. Big difference between that and what neiko "USA" does.

 

[1982fxr]

I really don't care where it's made as long as it does the job. I've bought a lot of stuff made in the USA that is junk. The Neiko tools I have have done fine. Some of the Made In China tools I have are much better than some of the Made In USA ones I have from the 70's and 80's.

If someone wants to bash or support something because of COO without ever actually trying it I suggest you put that in the political section. That is exactly what that is. I have no use for anyone's politics on here. If you have tried a tool I'd love to here a review. Personally I hope he gets banned for his one post. I know I just put him on ignore.

It sure looks like someone created an extra login just to troll with at a later date.

This is a thread asking where neiko tools USA are made. Answer is various parts of Asia.

Also, unslow since I am trash talking neiko and their false advertising, is it me you are suggesting made a second account?

This neiko USA **** has been misleading consumers for over decade...
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5842

 

[jacked_72]

Its funny, I see two accounts that have been opened to post in this thread in support of Taiwan in general and Neiko in particular. Didn't know that Neiko fans were so devoted.

 

[dogdog]

Neiko tools USA are NOT made in USA. Yet USA is plastered all over everything---logos, advertising and even the actual imported products.

http://www.toolplanet.com/product/N...nGB9I50nZhV3SMBkiK_Axlj9LiuHkF4LMKBoCsGDw_wcB

Right there on the roll pouch---in big letters USA. Gee, wonder why they do that? To deceive consumers. They use USA more prominently than most actual American manufacturers do.

sure you are not confused / hangup with a trademark name and the COO, it would be the case if they listed the tool as Made in the USA or Assemble in the USA?


Neiko Tools USA is part of the trademark name?
http://www.stopfakes.gov/learn-about-ip/trademarks/about

http://www.ridgerocktools.com/web2/about.asp

"....About US
Ridgerock Tools has the experience of manufacturing and importing tools for over 18 years. Our Neiko and Neiko Pro line was developed to differentiate from the typical quality of tools coming from overseas. One of our strengths is the fact that we have developed different grade tools to suit different types of markets.
...."


https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/ridgerock-tools-inc-1262800/

 

[anndel]

If they are made in Taiwan, then they are very good well-made tools. Taiwan is a modern free Democracy and is NOT officially part of Mainland China, although, Communist mainland China tries to claim Taiwan as one of its provinces. The current President of Taiwan is Pro-Democracy/Anti-mainland.
Modern steel mills and factories for making hand tools have been built in Taiwan after WWII, making quality hand tools such as the GearWrench Brand line of tools.I have bought hand tools from Taiwan without a quality issue.

Taiwan is a very important USA Ally. They think someday they can return to china when communism is defeated that's why Taiwan calls themselves Republic of China. Vice versa, china thinks Taiwan is part of communist china. The US military defends Taiwan. Some of their products are better than some of the US made tools. They like Japan used to produce junk after WWII but now produce quality tools.

Nonetheless, Taiwan Republic of China
Mainland Communist China - People's Republic of china

There is a very big difference in governments, economy, manufacturing, quality control and who's our friend in the world.

 

[dogdog]

.....Sometimes people just blindly follows just because they are blinded in their beliefs....

 

[1982fxr]

sure you are not confused / hangup with a trademark name and the COO, it would be the case if they listed the tool as Made in the USA or Assemble in the USA?


Neiko Tools USA is part of the trademark name?
http://www.stopfakes.gov/learn-about-ip/trademarks/about

http://www.ridgerocktools.com/web2/about.asp

"....About US
Ridgerock Tools has the experience of manufacturing and importing tools for over 18 years. Our Neiko and Neiko Pro line was developed to differentiate from the typical quality of tools coming from overseas. One of our strengths is the fact that we have developed different grade tools to suit different types of markets.
...."


https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/ridgerock-tools-inc-1262800/

I understand all of that. It doesn't change the fact that they use deceptive advertising and logos. If they wanted to be an honest importer they would change...

 

[unslow1]

This is a thread asking where neiko tools USA are made. Answer is various parts of Asia.

Also, unslow since I am trash talking neiko and their false advertising, is it me you are suggesting made a second account?

This neiko USA **** has been misleading consumers for over decade...
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5842

If you read my post it is very obvious who I was referring to. You have a lot more than one post.

 

[dogdog]

1. I would never compare Koken to neiko

2. Koken says right there on the front page MADE IN JAPAN. Big difference between that and what neiko "USA" does.

I understand all of that. It doesn't change the fact that they use deceptive advertising and logos. If they wanted to be an honest importer they would change...

But you are ok with Koken USA in the logo?

Both have the wording USA in the logo. and that pouch that says USA is part of the trademark name made into a logo same with Koken USA?

 

[WhiskeyRanger]

Their stuff isn't bad and in some cases you can get it cheap enough on Amazon that its worth picking up for some stuff. I needed metric hex drive sockets for work but they will be used maybe once or twice a year. Knowing what they are going in is fine, but they definitely seem to project a Made in USA image while downplaying the true COO. Complete apples to oranges comparison vs something like VW of America which is a different corporate entity from VW that sells German products in the US. VW isn't trying to trick you and they take pride in advertising their "German Engineering."

 

[WhiskeyRanger]

But you are ok with Koken USA in the logo?

Both have the wording USA in the logo. and that pouch that says USA is part of the trademark name made into a logo same with Koken USA?

Right below the Koken image you liked to is this:
Welcome to KokenUSA

"Ko-Ken Tools is a fourth generation family owned and operated business in Japan, with 140+ employees. The focus of the business is entirely on Sockets and Socket wrenches. The entire manufacturing process is in-house at Ko-Ken, from design, cold forging, heat treat and plating."

Their company name is Ko-ken and they have a US division that exists to sell their unambiguously Japanese made tools in the US. There is a big difference between making it easier for customers to find your products from the appropriate distribution network, and employing what many to consider misleading branding to obfuscate the country of origin.

 

[dogdog]

Right below the Koken image you liked to is this:
Welcome to KokenUSA

"Ko-Ken Tools is a fourth generation family owned and operated business in Japan, with 140+ employees. The focus of the business is entirely on Sockets and Socket wrenches. The entire manufacturing process is in-house at Ko-Ken, from design, cold forging, heat treat and plating."

Their company name is Ko-ken and they have a US division that exists to sell their unambiguously Japanese made tools in the US. There is a big difference between making it easier for customers to find your products from the appropriate distribution network, and employing what many to consider misleading branding to obfuscate the country of origin.

............... their parent company about us also stated something similar... only differences

one is an importer, the other is a tool manufacture (it seems),
one is actually a USA company the other is a Japanese company that have a division in the US.
Both have USA in the logo .... Neither claims made in the USA.
Neither one you would be able to tell the differences until the potential buyer visits their company page.
one is trademark in the USA the other is probably registered trademark some where else.
...
one puts it in the front page the other puts it in their about us page...

http://www.ridgerocktools.com/web2/about.asp

"....About US
Ridgerock Tools has the experience of manufacturing and importing tools for over 18 years. Our Neiko and Neiko Pro line was developed to differentiate from the typical quality of tools coming from overseas. One of our strengths is the fact that we have developed different grade tools to suit different types of markets.
...."

The point: there is not much differences..... don't be a hypocritic

if some one reads the product
KoKenUSA or Neiko Tools USA without actually looking at anything else both of these logos would be misleading..... or not misleading. it dependents on the stage of mind... but definitely your belief system would have hypocritical issue if you think one is different from the other.... Unless you are tellling me that NeiKo have their tools stamped Made in the USA when it is not.

 

[WhiskeyRanger]

............... their parent company about us also stated something similar... only differences

one is an importer, the other is a tool manufacture (it seems),
one is actually a USA company the other is a Japanese company that have a division in the US.
Both have USA in the logo .... Neither claims made in the USA.
Neither one you would be able to tell the differences until the potential buyer visits their company page.
one is trademark in the USA the other is probably registered trademark some where else.


http://www.ridgerocktools.com/web2/about.asp

"....About US
Ridgerock Tools has the experience of manufacturing and importing tools for over 18 years. Our Neiko and Neiko Pro line was developed to differentiate from the typical quality of tools coming from overseas. One of our strengths is the fact that we have developed different grade tools to suit different types of markets.
...."

The point: there is not much differences..... don't be a hypocritic

if some one reads the product
KoKenUSA or Neiko Tools USA without actually looking at anything else both of these logos would be misleading..... or not misleading. it dependents on the stage of mind... but definitely your belief system would have hypocritical issue if you think one is different from the other.... Unless you are tellling me that NeiKo have their tools stamped Made in the USA when it is not.

Where does the "Koken USA" logo appear on Koken tools? Neiko USA has USA on the logo for their packaging and advertising. Koken USA is the web site of the US distribution company of Koken tools. It is not the name of the tools themselves or the company producing them.

 

[dogdog]

Talking about the KoKen USA logo.... vs the Neiko Tool USA logo.

 

[WhiskeyRanger]

Talking about the KoKen USA logo.... vs the Neiko Tool USA logo.

Yes, the website logo of a website for a distributor vs the logo of the tool line itself.

You made the point earlier that you would have to go online to get the story on the Koken USA logo just like the Neiko USA logo. The Koken USA logo is ONLY online while the Neiko USA logo appears on the tools packaging itself.

 

[dogdog]

Yes, the website logo of a website for a distributor vs the logo of the tool line itself.

You made the point earlier that you would have to go online to get the story on the Koken USA logo just like the Neiko USA logo. The Koken USA logo is ONLY online while the Neiko USA logo appears on the tools packaging itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark
vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_of_origin

I am not sure if that is deceptive, illegal or the ability to recognize its a trademark/logo vs the marking of COO.

 

[WhiskeyRanger]

I don't think anyone is (and I know I'm not) saying its illegal, just that it appears to be an attempt to mislead uninformed consumers. Its the sort of distasteful marketing that some people, myself included, prefer not to support. As I mentioned before, I have purchased their tools in the past, but it was based on the fact they were dirt cheap imports and came in a handy case. In the future, I would probably go with another company.

 

[Jazz1]

Their flap discs for die grinders are junk. Picked some up and not impressed at all compared to Rolox? brand

 

[dogdog]

I don't think anyone is (and I know I'm not) saying its illegal, just that it appears to be an attempt to mislead uninformed consumers. Its the sort of distasteful marketing that some people, myself included, prefer not to support. As I mentioned before, I have purchased their tools in the past, but it was based on the fact they were dirt cheap imports and came in a handy case. In the future, I would probably go with another company.

I think all their tools are junk because their naming sounds like a cheap Japanese pron star..
That is preferences, nothing to do with COO or naming in the trademark. It might be distasteful or could be creative in choosing the naming, but we never know the intention if it is deceptive or business needs.

http://www.beyondintractability.org/essay/facts-values

 

[rick carpenter]

As I understand it, they are headquartered & made in PRC. US importers sell the line of tools labeled "Neiko USA" here. There is nothing to get worked up over.

 

[ibedayank]

people really need to check when a thread was started

 

[jacked_72]

people really need to check when a thread was started

That's funny. Began 2011 and brought back to life this month by TimWolfe with a post count of 1.

Looks like Neiko may have its advertising department at work to drum up discussion.

 

[dogdog]

.....Sometimes people just blindly follows just because they are blinded in their beliefs....

That's funny. Began 2011 and brought back to life this month by TimWolfe with a post count of 1.

Looks like Neiko may have its advertising department at work to drum up discussion.

No doubt there seems to be lots of members that works for some sort of tools / equipment company in one way to another base on their response.

If he/she is then they have hired a fool. More like his statement is a generic skewed political statement than a support for Neiko... He say Neiko's fools are only good if they are made in Taiwan aka the ROC.... not PRC (just some googlefu).

 

[mdtaylorjr]

To the post above about Honda and Toyota not being made in america. Most of them sold in america are made here. So many are made here that the vins have a special starting # of 5. This denotes a foreign car brand assembled in america.