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Do any of you pro's use these on a daily basis?
how is it doing a RWD or 4x4 transmission?
I saw a used Italian unit for sale from an import shop in Madison, that was the only type of lift they used.

I am in debate of getting one for my shop for two reasons:

1) floor space
2) I don't want to have concrete work done (unknown concrete specs)

I saw a couple that were flush installs, but I would like to know the practicality for using one of these in my shop. I don't do a ton of transmissions, but I do end up doing exhaust, fuel pumps, etc. on occasion.
The use would be minimal, I work on 3-4 cars a week plus I always have another I am fixing up to sell.

As far as I can tell the cost would be about the same as a 2 post + concrete pads, give or take a few hundred bucks. Just curious if anyone loves or hates this type of lift.


This is the style, but not necessarily the exact one:
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-SLP-9K-Full-Rise-Scissor-Lift
 
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these must be about as unpopular as I had imagined lol.
it seems they use these overseas but obviously the 2 & 4 post units are by far more popular here.
 
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I've never used a full rise but the mid-rise lifts are just as inconvenient for all of the middle of the car stuff as you would think.
 
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tstaude said:
these must be about as unpopular as I had imagined lol.
it seems they use these overseas but obviously the 2 & 4 post units are by far more popular here.
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I think that's true. Or more specifically, Chinese 2 & 4 post units are far more popular here. Lifts made in democracies - especially scissor lifts - are much more expensive.

They are awesome for small, multi-purpose workshops though.

I asked a local lift supplier where I could see some of their scissor lifts in person. That's probably the best way to get in contact with a professional shop that's using one.
 
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I have a small home shop that I use for just about anything from auto mechanics to woodworking. Went thru this debate with myself for a long time between two post or scissor lift. Because floor space would be permanently divided with a two post what I decided was to go with a full rise scissor, best decision I could have made.

Looked at the Greg Smith lift in Delaware but had a concern with the coo being in china had to think about it. Then found this Rotary GLP35 on craigslist and never looked back. With it now flush with the floor it gives me full floor space, and as an added bonus if I'm doing a wood project I now have two adjustable work benches at my disposal.

It works out great for working on my cars as I pretty much have full access to anything under the car with the exception of the rocker panels, which could be accessed if needed by using more blocking. Anyway ******, exhaust and drivetrain work is pretty much accessible as there is 32 inches between the platforms. It even works well for working on my garden tractors as I load them sideways and can work on them now at standing height.

I've found the scissor lift to be much more versatile that I ever imagined over a two post for my needs.

Here's some old pics I found of my Rotary GLP35 (Made in Italy) that I have in my shop. They are now recessed flush to the floor so the dark colored ramps are now gone. It only had to be recessed 5 inches to be flush, not like some of the other ones I've seen with the deep trench.

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Hope this helps with your decision, I've been very happy with mine.

http://www.rotaryvehiclelifts.com/rotary-scissor-lifts/glp35-scissor-lift/

A youtube showing how space you have available:

 
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Op Please let us know what you end up with!! If you go with the Atlas SLP-9K or SLP-7K I'd really like to know your thoughts... Thanks Red

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I have a small home shop that I use for just about anything from auto mechanics to woodworking. Went thru this debate with myself for a long time between two post or scissor lift. Because floor space would be permanently divided with a two post what I decided was to go with a full rise scissor, best decision I could have made.

Looked at the Greg Smith lift in Delaware but had a concern with the coo being in china had to think about it. Then found this Rotary GLP35 on craigslist and never looked back. With it now flush with the floor it gives me full floor space, and as an added bonus if I'm doing a wood project I now have two adjustable work benches at my disposal.

It works out great for working on my cars as I pretty much have full access to anything under the car with the exception of the rocker panels, which could be accessed if needed by using more blocking. Anyway ******, exhaust and drivetrain work is pretty much accessible as there is 32 inches between the platforms. It even works well for working on my garden tractors as I load them sideways and can work on them now at standing height.

I've found the scissor lift to be much more versatile that I ever imagined over a two post for my needs.

Here's some old pics I found of my Rotary GLP35 (Made in Italy) that I have in my shop. They are now recessed flush to the floor so the dark colored ramps are now gone. It only had to be recessed 5 inches to be flush, not like some of the other ones I've seen with the deep trench.

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Hope this helps with your decision, I've been very happy with mine.

http://www.rotaryvehiclelifts.com/rotary-scissor-lifts/glp35-scissor-lift/

A youtube showing how space you have available:

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So do you have your lift mounted surface or sub surface?

I really like that setup..
 
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That Rotary lift is almost identical to the Bendpak SP-7X which can be had for around $4400.

I have a SP-7X in my garage, but it is not operational yet. I'm looking forward to using it, mostly as a variable-height workbench (for things like being able to stand up straight while I work on my lawn mowers and riding tractors).
 
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Redwolf947 said:
So do you have your lift mounted surface or sub surface?

I really like that setup..
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I did the pits and the lift is flush in the floor now, don't have those grey ramps you see there anymore. Works out even better, no tripping.

Here's a shot of the pit for the lift waiting for concrete to cure, sorry don't have any showing it finished. But you get the idea.

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Uhm...how are those tied into the existing slab? It looks like you just cut some holes and poured concrete into the bottom of them?
 
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alberto said:
Seems pretty similar to this Nussbaum, that's made in Germany, except the Nussbaum doesn't need compressed air to undo the locks, plus it has two hydraulic cylinders per side. The Nussbaum and Rotary seem to have the lowest clearance of the one's I've looked into.

http://www.nussbaum-usa.com/portfolio_item/jumbo-lift-7000/
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HA! I just found those Sunday and emailed them for pricing.. But haven't received any info yet...
 
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white6589 said:
I did the pits and the lift is flush in the floor now, don't have those grey ramps you see there anymore. Works out even better, no tripping.

Here's a shot of the pit for the lift waiting for concrete to cure, sorry don't have any showing it finished. But you get the idea.

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Looks good. I hope to do that in the future if I don't go with a 4 post lift for cost reasons.
 
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ItsNemo said:
Uhm...how are those tied into the existing slab? It looks like you just cut some holes and poured concrete into the bottom of them?
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More or less, The scissor lifts are not like two posts where there is concern about side-way stress at the base pulling out the anchors ect. The scissor bases do get anchored with 4 anchors, 1 in each corner.

Existing slab is 6" thick, dug below that another 8" and went sideways under the whole perimeter of the existing slab about 5"s, creating a shoulder. A few inches of compacted stone then laid re-bar and wire across and under existing slab. Filled with 6" high strength concrete mix leaving the 5" recess needed for recess of the lift.

So in the sense it is not tied into the existing slab but under it. The platforms are stable enough by themselves, with the base tied under the slab the lift isn't going anywhere.
 
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alberto said:
Seems pretty similar to this Nussbaum, that's made in Germany, except the Nussbaum doesn't need compressed air to undo the locks, plus it has two hydraulic cylinders per side.http://www.nussbaum-usa.com/portfolio_item/jumbo-lift-7000/
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I don't believe the Nussbaum Jumbo has locks at all. It appears to rely completely on the redundant hydraulic circuits.

The Ravaglioli 535 is a similar animal, except it's made in Italy, and has mechanical locks (shop air required to release).
 
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I was on a service call a few years ago and the customer had a smaller scissors lift that he was using to repair riding lawnmowers. He could raise the mower so he didn't have to bend over to work on it. Worked out great for that. Not sure just how good it would be for working on cars
 
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slidehammer said:
I don't believe the Nussbaum Jumbo has locks at all. It appears to rely completely on the redundant hydraulic circuits.

The Ravaglioli 535 is a similar animal, except it's made in Italy, and has mechanical locks (shop air required to release).
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Not sure how I feel about that.
 
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Redwolf947 said:
Looks good. I hope to do that in the future if I don't go with a 4 post lift for cost reasons.
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Thanks Redwolf, No regrets here, I can do so much more with these in my shop over a two post.

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Not sure how I feel about that.
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My GLP35 does not have locks either, uses the two hydraulic systems to hold and have never any fear or problems.

I watched the video on the Nusbaum, looked shaky to me. The Rotary looks to be way more beefy.
 
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There is a video of a car on the Jumbo lift and them cutting one of the hydraulic hoses on the Nussbaum site. I was surprised.
 
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white6589 said:
My GLP35 does not have locks either, uses the two hydraulic systems to hold and have never any fear or problems.

I watched the video on the Nusbaum, looked shaky to me. The Rotary looks to be way more beefy.
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GLP35 minimum clearance is about 5 inches, which means it wouldn't work for me, but good to know that the two hydraulic set up works.

Can you post the video you looked at that made you think the Nussbaum looked shaky?

I did see the video that Redwolf references.
 
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