Outlawmws
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autopts, are those 2 wiltons NOS?
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dutchgray
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First new one in a while
View media item 59744Another Parkinson No5 3 1/4" jaw width
This one is pretty decent and since I spent 10 mins adjusting the QR it now works as well. Its complete except for the heavy washer that stops the dynamic from coming all the way out so I will have to make one of those as otherwise someone will end up dropping it on the floor.
View media item 59744Another Parkinson No5 3 1/4" jaw width
This one is pretty decent and since I spent 10 mins adjusting the QR it now works as well. Its complete except for the heavy washer that stops the dynamic from coming all the way out so I will have to make one of those as otherwise someone will end up dropping it on the floor.
drivesitfar
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Dutch: I love those old quick release English vices you and the guys on your side of the pond find. that old guy finally found the right person to mend it's wounds so happy to see it's home now. congrats.
Kong: I'm not sure Shift is correct about the vise having a damaged static jaw and a piece of RR track on it because some of those old vises made in your area were pretty cool looking back in the day. as Shift mentioned the bench and boards are probably easily worth the $40, and if the vises and motor are in good shape that should pay for any gas and time involved if you can use them. remember you are in or near VISE HEAVEN so there might be another vise deal lurking around the corner if you are quick and have time to run out the door for it. that said even though I don't NEED a vise i'd be calling that guy in that ad to go look at that set up.
Auto: is the owner of that duo selling each one for $2,999 or is that for the pair?? I bet Joe could buy a full warehouse full of vises for that much cash.
ALL: I think it's been almost 2 weeks since I've bought a vise, but i'm moving them almost daily so does that count.
Kong: I'm not sure Shift is correct about the vise having a damaged static jaw and a piece of RR track on it because some of those old vises made in your area were pretty cool looking back in the day. as Shift mentioned the bench and boards are probably easily worth the $40, and if the vises and motor are in good shape that should pay for any gas and time involved if you can use them. remember you are in or near VISE HEAVEN so there might be another vise deal lurking around the corner if you are quick and have time to run out the door for it. that said even though I don't NEED a vise i'd be calling that guy in that ad to go look at that set up.
Auto: is the owner of that duo selling each one for $2,999 or is that for the pair?? I bet Joe could buy a full warehouse full of vises for that much cash.
ALL: I think it's been almost 2 weeks since I've bought a vise, but i'm moving them almost daily so does that count.
Outlaw I can't check the date but I'm almost certain they are new stock. The back dust caps are even there and perfect. Usually on a vise this size you run across a blemish somewhere. These 2 are really fresh looking.
KMScott
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That is a great deal. 8" vises are getting hard to find and those are new looking. Shucks no scars yet. Nice find Autopts.
Just bought this off craigslist for 20 bucks. No cracks, welds etc. Seems in good shape. Anyone know where to purchase new teeth/plates for the jaws? Also I know for the Wilton's people have figured out the closest paint match colour. Any ideas on matching this red?
CrotalusAtrox
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Got this one finished last night, it was rough. Buddy is letting me use his lathe so I can build a pin and maybe a handle. May repaint it just not sure if the color on this one is what I want, really liked it on the Rock Island.
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jakemac
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va.grouseman
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A really super find Autopts.---Got mine from a guy selling 5, NOS 8''ers on EBay.---I bought the first one for $1450.00 and shipping brought it to $1575.00.---I learned through experience that if someone is selling a series of identical items, always buy the first one, cause they will just go up exponentially.---The last one sold for $1975.00 plus shipping.
I like the older style twice as much as the newer although they are 18 lbs. lighter than the new ones.---Wouldn't take 3 gold monkeys for mine.
By the way, mine had no date at all so yours may not either.
I like the older style twice as much as the newer although they are 18 lbs. lighter than the new ones.---Wouldn't take 3 gold monkeys for mine.
By the way, mine had no date at all so yours may not either.
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zoomieport
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Power Arm Jr's for $59.00, free shipping.
3 left, hurry!!!
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3 left, hurry!!!
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CrotalusAtrox
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Dutch: I love those old quick release English vices you and the guys on your side of the pond find. that old guy finally found the right person to mend it's wounds so happy to see it's home now. congrats.
Kong: I'm not sure Shift is correct about the vise having a damaged static jaw and a piece of RR track on it because some of those old vises made in your area were pretty cool looking back in the day. as Shift mentioned the bench and boards are probably easily worth the $40, and if the vises and motor are in good shape that should pay for any gas and time involved if you can use them. remember you are in or near VISE HEAVEN so there might be another vise deal lurking around the corner if you are quick and have time to run out the door for it. that said even though I don't NEED a vise i'd be calling that guy in that ad to go look at that set up.
Auto: is the owner of that duo selling each one for $2,999 or is that for the pair?? I bet Joe could buy a full warehouse full of vises for that much cash.
ALL: I think it's been almost 2 weeks since I've bought a vise, but i'm moving them almost daily so does that count.
Man I would like to see that collection
zoomieport
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Outlawmws
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Big Surprise!
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drivesitfar
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Jake: i'm still looking to get my hands on a York so nice find. what's with the one picture at a time postings? new Ipad or ??
looks like the great vise and about the right size for maybe putting on a cart or rolling toolbox?
interesting term you used for the dust cap.
Chilang: i'd love to have you stop by for about a week to shine some of mine up. seems like you do an amazing job on the ones you've found that only takes you a few hours. my so called COLLECTION is dwindling, but mostly going to GJ members that NEED them so far for either their benches or to finish up their collections. I have a few left though in case you get tired of the 120 degree summers and need a 80 degree day or two. cheers.
VA: I didn't know the newer 800s Wiltons weighed more, but i'd still rather own on with the jaws bolted in from the back of their towers like the ones AutoPts posted.
looks like the great vise and about the right size for maybe putting on a cart or rolling toolbox?
interesting term you used for the dust cap.
Chilang: i'd love to have you stop by for about a week to shine some of mine up. seems like you do an amazing job on the ones you've found that only takes you a few hours. my so called COLLECTION is dwindling, but mostly going to GJ members that NEED them so far for either their benches or to finish up their collections. I have a few left though in case you get tired of the 120 degree summers and need a 80 degree day or two. cheers.
VA: I didn't know the newer 800s Wiltons weighed more, but i'd still rather own on with the jaws bolted in from the back of their towers like the ones AutoPts posted.
I ran into these 2 Wilton 800S's. It's rare seeing a pair together. 27" long, 200 and some LBS. If anyone's interested let me know........................
You guys are doing some marvelous restorations out there
Let's take note of how the factory vises have crisp, yet deburred edges; not rounded over, highly polished convex surfaces.
drivesitfar
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ZK: do you honestly use the anvil on your vise for bending or hammering on? let it go 
22: since you are in Texas i'd say more than a few benjamins if your C2 doesn't have any issues under that terrible paint job. my guess maybe 5 benjamins if you clean it up??
22: since you are in Texas i'd say more than a few benjamins if your C2 doesn't have any issues under that terrible paint job. my guess maybe 5 benjamins if you clean it up??
CrotalusAtrox
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Great find white 450 I am sure one of the experts will tell you what you have. I have been all over the place in AZ looking for a Wilton bullet on a swivel base and they are like finding Unicorn Tears.
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va.grouseman
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22, You have a very good problem.---I'm a Reed man myself so you know where my bias lies.---That C2 is a very desirable brand and size, so I guess it would depend on what size Reed you have as to the better choice.---I see no problem with keeping both.---I'm not good on appraising so I'll leave that to the pundits.
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Yea Drive, the new 800Ss are 238 lbs. but the better ones are 220 lbs., according to the Grouseman.
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Yea Drive, the new 800Ss are 238 lbs. but the better ones are 220 lbs., according to the Grouseman.
jakemac
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Jake: i'm still looking to get my hands on a York so nice find. what's with the one picture at a time postings? new Ipad or ??
looks like the great vise and about the right size for maybe putting on a cart or rolling toolbox?
interesting term you used for the dust cap.
My desktop is dead, so I'm leashed to an iPad for the foreseeable future.
The York may be going to a new home to join up with some bigger brothers, we'll see.
The cap - I call 'em like I see 'em.
Tell me about it. I can finally put the vise thing to rest. I had some kind of Chinese **** that broke when I admittedly abused it pressing out a u joint. I found a little Reed that has worked ok for holding mower blades and such but this thing is a hoss. On our Fed Ex scale it read 97lbs and I'm pleased so far. The handle is perfectly straight, the jaws line up awesome, and it just doesn't look like it's been abused.
scooternut
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Not mine, but on display at a frozen in time old machine shop that had an open house today. No markings on it, couldn't figure out what it was. Had to be 8 inches. They had this, a Parker, a Columbian, and a few blacksmith vises. What a cool place
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CrotalusAtrox
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Jake: i'm still looking to get my hands on a York so nice find. what's with the one picture at a time postings? new Ipad or ??
looks like the great vise and about the right size for maybe putting on a cart or rolling toolbox?
interesting term you used for the dust cap.
Chilang: i'd love to have you stop by for about a week to shine some of mine up. seems like you do an amazing job on the ones you've found that only takes you a few hours. my so called COLLECTION is dwindling, but mostly going to GJ members that NEED them so far for either their benches or to finish up their collections. I have a few left though in case you get tired of the 120 degree summers and need a 80 degree day or two. cheers.
VA: I didn't know the newer 800s Wiltons weighed more, but i'd still rather own on with the jaws bolted in from the back of their towers like the ones AutoPts posted.
I have been trying to knock out as much work as possible because of the 120.0 degree summers that are right around the corner. What a lot of people don't understand is it does not get under 100.o until 1am am and thats only for a few hours its brutal from June through September. Back when I was growing up it wasn't as bad but with all the concrete and less farmland it gets hot and stays hot. I may take you up on your offer around July
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KMScott
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Re: The heavy chamfer under old non swiveler vises
We always complain about that heavy chamfer under the stationary vises like this #79 Parker with 6" jaws.
<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Chas-Parker-Vises/i-7Hh7vrT/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Chas-Parker-Vises/i-7Hh7vrT/0/M/Parker%2079%20%284%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>
I spent a good hour this afternoon setting this big guy up on my mill. The biggest problem is getting it clamped down solid.
Why the heavy chamfer is anyone's guess but here is my remedy. After roughing out the mass of casting.
I added a 1/2 inch radius and made it much easier to install on a bench or stand while still leaving enough material there for strength. The radius will be easier to match on the mounting plate or bench.
I'll machine all the casting irregulars of the bottom before pulling this heavy vise off the machine. Working on these old heavy vises are a lot of fun but honestly having the access to the right machinery makes the job easier. I am going to build a stand for this guy and have it as my user vise. Got a good start on the new jaws earlier today.
We always complain about that heavy chamfer under the stationary vises like this #79 Parker with 6" jaws.
<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Chas-Parker-Vises/i-7Hh7vrT/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Chas-Parker-Vises/i-7Hh7vrT/0/M/Parker%2079%20%284%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>
I spent a good hour this afternoon setting this big guy up on my mill. The biggest problem is getting it clamped down solid.
Why the heavy chamfer is anyone's guess but here is my remedy. After roughing out the mass of casting.
I added a 1/2 inch radius and made it much easier to install on a bench or stand while still leaving enough material there for strength. The radius will be easier to match on the mounting plate or bench.
I'll machine all the casting irregulars of the bottom before pulling this heavy vise off the machine. Working on these old heavy vises are a lot of fun but honestly having the access to the right machinery makes the job easier. I am going to build a stand for this guy and have it as my user vise. Got a good start on the new jaws earlier today.
Mr_P
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Man, I was excited to show off my home-made, at least it looks home-made (in the US I imagine just because that's where I bought it), with jaw opening with of 12 inches. The widest I currently own! But then I go through the last ten or so pages on this thread, only to see Evilunclegrimace had posted his #27 Hollands with what looks like a 17 inch Jaw opening! DANG!
Anyway, enough words, more pictures……
Here is my new to me, home-made looking, big *** vise!
The jaws are 6”x6”. It has a similar mounting style as a woodworking vise, but the dynamic jaw can swivel to accommodate odd pieces. How odd? Well possibly odd enough to shape into prosthetic limbs, or so says the flea market seller who sold it to me.
Someone please correct me, if this is a type of vise seen here before. I had not seen one like it, so that’s why I bought it (for only $35; it weighs 50 Lbs). Also, if it is a commercial style vise, please provide details to who the manufacture/age of it is. I did not see any maker’s marks on it.
Anyway, enough words, more pictures……
Here is my new to me, home-made looking, big *** vise!
The jaws are 6”x6”. It has a similar mounting style as a woodworking vise, but the dynamic jaw can swivel to accommodate odd pieces. How odd? Well possibly odd enough to shape into prosthetic limbs, or so says the flea market seller who sold it to me.
Someone please correct me, if this is a type of vise seen here before. I had not seen one like it, so that’s why I bought it (for only $35; it weighs 50 Lbs). Also, if it is a commercial style vise, please provide details to who the manufacture/age of it is. I did not see any maker’s marks on it.
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honza.vosalik
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Nice piece! There is a reason why Wilton and York look similar. Wiltons founder was from Czech and Yorks are made there.
partsproduction
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Ok, here is a very strange little vise. I bought it off ebay because it did look so different, when I was cleaning it up I discovered that the main body is cast steel instead of semisteel or ductile iron, in fact the jaws are much softer than the body. The base looks home made, but clearly the the body is cast and since I've never seen another it's a great mystery.
Here is a view of the back side, where casting evidence is clear. The jaws are about 2 1/2" wide.
There is nothing mass produced looking about it, and there isn't even the normal spring/washer inside for running the jaw out. An oversight?
Here are the mooth faced soft iron jaws open;
Here it is laying down, so the clamp can be seen, every bit prototypical, in fact I'm betting none of you have seen anything quite like it.
It was originally a washed out partial red painted exterior. In spite of some of the things I said there were areas of the exterior that were not square, though machined!
Any comments greatly appreciated, especially any that help with it's origin.
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Here is a view of the back side, where casting evidence is clear. The jaws are about 2 1/2" wide.
There is nothing mass produced looking about it, and there isn't even the normal spring/washer inside for running the jaw out. An oversight?
Here are the mooth faced soft iron jaws open;
Here it is laying down, so the clamp can be seen, every bit prototypical, in fact I'm betting none of you have seen anything quite like it.
It was originally a washed out partial red painted exterior. In spite of some of the things I said there were areas of the exterior that were not square, though machined!
Any comments greatly appreciated, especially any that help with it's origin.
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jakemac
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Yes. I was able to find the imprint. On the top of the static jaw tower, just behind the jaw insert, the words "Made in Czechoslovakia" were very lightly stamped in english. There is also a word stamped on the dynamic tower In a similar place, but I couldn't read it.
topop101
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Re: The heavy chamfer under old non swiveler vises
Very interesting approach Kevin!
We always complain about that heavy chamfer under the stationary vises like this #79 Parker with 6" jaws.
<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Chas-Parker-Vises/i-7Hh7vrT/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Chas-Parker-Vises/i-7Hh7vrT/0/M/Parker%2079%20%284%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>
I spent a good hour this afternoon setting this big guy up on my mill. The biggest problem is getting it clamped down solid.
Why the heavy chamfer is anyone's guess but here is my remedy. After roughing out the mass of casting.
I added a 1/2 inch radius and made it much easier to install on a bench or stand while still leaving enough material there for strength. The radius will be easier to match on the mounting plate or bench.
I'll machine all the casting irregulars of the bottom before pulling this heavy vise off the machine. Working on these old heavy vises are a lot of fun but honestly having the access to the right machinery makes the job easier. I am going to build a stand for this guy and have it as my user vise. Got a good start on the new jaws earlier today.
Very interesting approach Kevin!
topop101
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I picked this old guy up yesterday at an estate for 45.00. 1887 pat. Parker No 376 Coach makers /wood workers rear swiveler. Very minty , not a hammer ding any where just a few paint drips. Pin and rear jaw are free, handle break works great. This may be the best condition of any old vise I have bought in 20 + years.
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Re: The heavy chamfer under old non swiveler vises
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I may be wrong but I believe that radius could be stronger than the original.We always complain about that heavy chamfer under the stationary vises like this #79 Parker with 6" jaws.
<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Chas-Parker-Vises/i-7Hh7vrT/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Chas-Parker-Vises/i-7Hh7vrT/0/M/Parker%2079%20%284%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>
I spent a good hour this afternoon setting this big guy up on my mill. The biggest problem is getting it clamped down solid.
Why the heavy chamfer is anyone's guess but here is my remedy. After roughing out the mass of casting.
I added a 1/2 inch radius and made it much easier to install on a bench or stand while still leaving enough material there for strength. The radius will be easier to match on the mounting plate or bench.
I'll machine all the casting irregulars of the bottom before pulling this heavy vise off the machine. Working on these old heavy vises are a lot of fun but honestly having the access to the right machinery makes the job easier. I am going to build a stand for this guy and have it as my user vise. Got a good start on the new jaws earlier today.
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zoomieport
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That's a beauty, nice score!