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Grease to keep *black* tools rust free

mobiledynamics

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Just got some new Knockout dies/punches. Came in seperate bags for each punch with a boatload of grease. I suppose to keep the black steel black....


Methinks I might follow suit.
Just short of giving it a wipedown with oil, what grease would you use if I was to do my own little grease bags for each of the punches
 
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PureLeaf

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Anything will work. The way its preventing corrosion is by acting as a moisture barrier. No moisture means no electrochemical cycle can occur, thus no corrosion. Alternative options are to put them in an anoxic environment (no oxygen), keep it in a desiccated environment below 15% relative humidity, or use a coating (like grease in this instance).
 
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it never dawned on me to use FF. I use it alot on the OPE, but never registered for me on tools. Might even be a cleaner approach than a *bag of grease* with the dies sitting in them
 

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Oil for guns: I personally use a spray from Parker. The advantage is that even when you wipe of any excess oil the film does not dry out as WD-40 or similar.
 

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I use air tool oil to wipe them with. In IL they would all be rusted within a few weeks without.
 

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I'd avoid bacon or pizza grease, but pretty much anything else will work. No one at work bothers to grease them as far as I know and none of them are rusty. I have a ratchet set I haven't used in a couple years and they still look fine with just a bit of oil. I usually use the shop hydraulic set, and they look fine in spite of never being oiled unless someone drops them on the oil soaked floor.:D Of course that probably happens a lot.
 
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Oil for guns: I personally use a spray from Parker. The advantage is that even when you wipe of any excess oil the film does not dry out as WD-40 or similar.

Gun oil. Nobody want's to believe us who recommend it, but the stuff keeps the same finish on guns rust free...

Breakfree CLP would be my vote only because that's what I've used with success.
 

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Gun oil. Nobody want's to believe us who recommend it, but the stuff keeps the same finish on guns rust free...

Breakfree CLP would be my vote only because that's what I've used with success.

Oh, I believe you. Birchwood Casey G96 Gun Treatment aerosol is my go-to steel rust preventative. I love the smell too.

But lately, I've found that fluid film seems a little better on rough surfaces (i.e. the flat black oxide coating on impact sockets).
 

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Oh, I believe you. Birchwood Casey G96 Gun Treatment aerosol is my go-to steel rust preventative. I love the smell too.



But lately, I've found that fluid film seems a little better on rough surfaces (i.e. the flat black oxide coating on impact sockets).



For the rough surfaces I think you have to go a little heavier with the oil and really work it in.

Someone should buy some brand new cheap impact sockets and compare coatings. Would be a cool study. Someone with high humidity or near salt water would be ideal.
 

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Move to a low-humidity climate. One unanticipated benefit of living in the frozen inland northwest is tools don't rust just sitting in an unheated garage.

jack vines
 

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Move to a low-humidity climate. One unanticipated benefit of living in the frozen inland northwest is tools don't rust just sitting in an unheated garage.

jack vines

Very true, but that blowing sand will strip the oxide off the tools ;) .

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Put them in zip lock bags along with a piece of VPI paper.

I use VCI for a number of things. It works.

Here's a tip about zip-lock bags. Buy FREEZER bags. They're made with a thicker plastic that is less gas permeable. In the freezer, that prevents water from escaping through the bag, which slows freezer burn. In this use, it keeps the VCI in, and the water out.
 
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