101.03662 Craftsman/Atlae DP disassembly

[bawb]

101.03662 Craftsman/Atlas DP disassembly

I picked up this old drill press from a scrapper and want to bring it back to life.

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Actually I found this forum by searching for info on this drill press and hope some of the knowledgeable members can point me in the right direction for tips on taking it apart.
The handle to raise/lower is giving me trouble. Is it pressed on needing a gear puller with a skinny nose? Hopefully after I remove that, I should be able to remove the quill assembly, right? I realize it's probably worth more in parts than it's going to cost me to rebuild it, but I enjoy rebuilding things.

 

[jakemac]

She's in rough shape, but will be a beauty when you're done.
Circa 1941 (rectangle switch plate, 4 handles) - 1946(????).
She's a war baby.
Made by Atlas for Craftsman.
Missing the pulley and spindle cover. (keep an eye on eBay, they show up occasionally)
Lovin' that it has the slow speed pulley. ($250 value right there)
The motor should be 1/3hp - 1/2hp 1750rpm, with sealed bearings for vertical use.
Wire the switch to the motor to the plug.
The closest rattle can paint to the original Cman blue will be Valspar Classic Royal Blue #85205 (sold at Lowes).

You can find the manual online here :
http://www.vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=6580

 

[Cruzan80]

Depending on how much you want to get into it, just talked to a guy who has one of these completely stripped down to parts to re-hab. Has a later 1/2hp capacitor start motor (metal center band version) to go with it. Asking $100 in Denver. Everything is there, including the cap over the front spindle.

 

[bawb]

She's in rough shape, but will be a beauty when you're done.
Circa 1941 (rectangle switch plate, 4 handles) - 1946(????).
She's a war baby.
Made by Atlas for Craftsman.
Missing the pulley and spindle cover. (keep an eye on eBay, they show up occasionally)
Lovin' that it has the slow speed pulley. ($250 value right there)
The motor should be 1/3hp - 1/2hp 1750rpm, with sealed bearings for vertical use.
Wire the switch to the motor to the plug.
The closest rattle can paint to the original Cman blue will be Valspar Classic Royal Blue #85205 (sold at Lowes).

You can find the manual online here :
http://www.vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=6580

That link didn't work for me , but this one has the same info I think.
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/572.pdf
But I still can't figure out how it comes apart. Already stripped the threads in the hub of the four way handle, but nothing that a helicoil can't fix.

It's also missing the depth stop, quill lock handle, but I might be able to fab something up along with the spindle/pulley cover.

Depending on how much you want to get into it, just talked to a guy who has one of these completely stripped down to parts to re-hab. Has a later 1/2hp capacitor start motor (metal center band version) to go with it. Asking $100 in Denver. Everything is there, including the cap over the front spindle.

Sounds like a good deal for someone local, but I'm a cheap old goat and going to get this one running for cheap.
I just plan on tearing it down, cleaning everything up, and relubing/greasing everything before reassembly. It did not come with a motor so I'll either use one off and old table saw unless I find a variable speed motor off a treadmill.
Obviously I'm not a purist, just want a good running drill press,and this will be a great improvement over my tabletop harbor freight model.

Now I just have to ponder how to get it apart.

 

[Cruzan80]

Make sure the motor is a 1725 and not 3450, or the drill bit will be much faster than intended!

I also passed on the Atlas, but picked up a 150 floor model for $125 that needs a good cleaning. Made him what I thought was a fair offer (based on my needs), but "I held onto it this long (30+ yrs meaning to do it), would feel bad if I only got $50 for it".

 

[bawb]

I did get it apart and found that the spindle pulley is stripped, so I'm on a quest for on of those. Are there any machinist on here that would know how feasible it would be to get a splined bushing made to attach to the top of the pulley?

 

[crguy]

You're going to have way more money and time in that by the time you get it running than what you could buy a good one for to start with.
It appears the only good part is the intermediate pulley set up. You could take that off and use it on a drill press in better shape to begin with and be way ahead.

 

[bawb]

You're going to have way more money and time in that by the time you get it running than what you could buy a good one for to start with.
It appears the only good part is the intermediate pulley set up. You could take that off and use it on a drill press in better shape to begin with and be way ahead.

You could be right but I'm learning a lot by trying to bring this one back to life. I don't mind the time I spend restoring things. Spending 2-3 hours tinkering in the garage is more enjoyable to me than going out, fighting crowds to see a movie or concert. And as for spending a lot of money on it, well I may be a recluse, but I'm a cheap recluse, so I'll bide my time and keep my eyes open for a low cost solution.
And like you mentioned I've already found an old rockwell dp for a decent price and and wondering if this intermediate pulley stepup will work on it.

 

[crguy]

You could be right but I'm learning a lot by trying to bring this one back to life. I don't mind the time I spend restoring things. Spending 2-3 hours tinkering in the garage is more enjoyable to me than going out, fighting crowds to see a movie or concert. And as for spending a lot of money on it, well I may be a recluse, but I'm a cheap recluse, so I'll bide my time and keep my eyes open for a low cost solution.
And like you mentioned I've already found an old rockwell dp for a decent price and and wondering if this intermediate pulley stepup will work on it.

There is no "prize" for being cheap. You could be spending enjoyable time learning on a good tool rather than struggling with a crappy one.

 

[bawb]

I think we are both thinking of spending money intelligently, as in not spending more money on this than I could buy a better one for. You advised being cheap and not throwing a lot on money into this and I agreed, unless I misunderstood you.

 

[Spotlight]

I want to learn more about this one,just picked one up for $20 locally. Can't wait to freshen her up.

 

[exmaxima1]

It should look about like mine when you get done with it. Mine is pretty much all original, and the motor is likely 20 years newer than the DP. It runs great.

As noted by several others already, you could have bought a better machine in the first place and be $$$ ahead. If you get to the Chicago NW, I'll sell you mine for a great price.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Register on the OWWM website (Old Woodworking Machines). Lots of expertise there under either the Old Metalworking Machines or Old Woodworking Machines forums. The Vintage Machines website is known as the "Mothership" there. You'll get all the help and advice you need. Not that GJ isn't great. Good luck!