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Wi-Fi Smoke Detectors/CO Detectors

ODIS

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Want to install new smoke and CO detectors. Is it worth the extra expense to purchase the WI-FI enabled units? Will the units actually communicate with my iPad or other device via internet?

Thanks.
 
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Teken

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Acquired the property next door to me. Turing it into a VRBO property.

Want to install new smoke and CO detectors. Is it worth the extra expense to purchase the WI-FI enabled units? Will the units actually communicate with my iPad or other device via internet?

Thanks.

Worth is very much subjective and (IF) its worth it to you go ahead. I think its a great option assuming you had absolutely nothing to receive notifications etc. For me all of the smoke / co detectors must be monitored by a CS station it only makes sense and offers so much safety and security.

Simply relying on WiFi as a means to receive an alert your home is burning down to the ground makes no sense. There are too many factors that can impact you not receiving the alert message.

Its a great secondary layer to a monitored system but shouldn't be used as the primary method to monitor and alert a home owner.
 

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Being on my local fire department we get alot of false alarms from people. They get a notification of an alarm and find nothing going on.
 

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Being on my local fire department we get alot of false alarms from people. They get a notification of an alarm and find nothing going on.

I think some of the big problems are there are so many older units in use now. Many don't use photo sensors vs ion sensing. Better units use both to ensure fast burning vs smoldering smoke is captured.

Other models with dual sensor elements use both to compare to reduce false alarms. In all cases most of the false alarms are due to improper placement, not using or turning on the bathroom exhaust fan causing steam to to trip a photo sensor.

Other times its the home owner installing extra units too close to say the kitchen and thus causing a false alarm. A properly installed, maintained, and replaced unit based 10 year cycle should not false.

Lastly, people should have some kind of surge protection on the circuit or primary service feed as surge events have damaged many hardwired units in the past which also contribute to false alarms.
 

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Acquired the property next door to me. Turing it into a VRBO property.

Want to install new smoke and CO detectors. Is it worth the extra expense to purchase the WI-FI enabled units? Will the units actually communicate with my iPad or other device via internet?

Thanks.

I haven't seen any WiFi detectors. Where do they draw their power from, battery or hard wire ? Or the later with battery back up ? If the power goes out, do they have the capability to transmit if the power is out ?
 
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disneyjoe7

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I wonder if WiFi detectors will link together if the house doesn't have the 3 wire to link to the other detectors so if one goes off the other go off.

Also does WiFi detectors sync to an alarm panel pro?

Or does the WiFi detector just give you the battery and other info on your phone?
 

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I wonder if WiFi detectors will link together if the house doesn't have the 3 wire to link to the other detectors so if one goes off the other go off.

Also does WiFi detectors sync to an alarm panel pro?

Or does the WiFi detector just give you the battery and other info on your phone?

The First Alert One Link model is linked using proprietary 900 MHz RF to one another. The WiFi portion is only used to connect to the router so the home owner can receive notifications whether that be push notifications, sms, e-mail.

I believe the latest First Alert unit is also Apple Home Kit certified so it will connect to any *Home Kit* system or controller.

With respect to the alarm system normally smoke, co, heat, sensors are hardwired using a relay which in turn is connected to one of the I/O ports the alarm system and this pertains to 120 VAC smoke alarm systems.

If a person decides to go the low voltage 2/ 4 wire that offers even more capability because the central station, home owner will know exactly which smoke, co, heat tripped the system.

Lastly, as I indicated assuming you didn't do anything else the alert notification with respect to these WiFi systems the message goes to the end user. But like I said it makes no sense at all because there are too many variables that will impact a person in not receiving the message.

Bottom line have the smoke alarms hardwired to the alarm panel and add in any of the battery operated units to add extra layers and zone protection. In my home I do exactly that the main floor and basement are all hardwired per CEC code and they in turn are wired to the security alarm system which is monitored by the CS.

To ensure a measure of fail over I installed ten more One Link Smoke / Co talking units to the system. This ensures if there is ever a surge event they can't be damaged by lighting etc. Obviously they also extend the protection layer because they are installed in every room, floor, zone I wanted to monitor.
 

disneyjoe7

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Well been out of the security side of things for many years now, but in the past smokes and heat detectors where alarm based and the house was separate being one couldn't be connected to the other. So homes had 2 sets at times.
 
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ODIS

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Thank you all for your input. Think the best solution is for CS monitoring. However, do not want to have these guys do the wiring. They must be wireless components. Have seen the jobs done by the cable guys for TV........ Oh My God...... Is that ever a mess! Yeah, professional installation... My A$$!
 
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