The VISES of Garage Journal

[drivesitfar]

GMan: there was a Reed 1C that RITZBLITZ restored and had his sister paint his favorite race car colors with a cool design and the car #3 on the side. I don't have the picture handy but it's been posted a few times on this thread so take a peak and see if you like it as much as I do. I might have to paint the 2C that way now that you have the 1C. or it's your vise now so MAKE ME JEALOUS.

Royce: thanks and another Starrett good idea.

 

[Benzmaster0]

Hello all
Been watching this forum for a number of years and finally registered. My father gave me a couple of vises and I would like to know if anyone can identify the one that is next to the reed.
Thank you.

 

[tedsters]

New arrivals courtesy of drivesitfar...very kind of him to turn me on to these that were nearly in my backyard!

Prentiss No. 59 coachmaker's vise:




Reed 1C....total resto planned for this one!

the Prentiss 59 sure looks familiar

 

[va.grouseman]

Originally posted by Benzmaster0.

Hello all
Been watching this forum for a number of years and finally registered. My father gave me a couple of vises and I would like to know if anyone can identify the one that is next to the reed.
Thank you.
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Benzmaster, it looks similar to a Taskmaster, but I can't see clear the logos on the side.---But you ain't going to beat the price.---And welcome to the forum.---There's one on page 1, and 8


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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g185/VegasBruce/Tech/TwinStick203020.jpg

 

[drivesitfar]

Benz: it looks a lot like a Wilton Bullet but with the BIG 6 on the side it's most likely the Taskmaster VA mentioned or a Chinese copy of one. the Reed 204.5 is one of the best 4.5 inch wide jaw vises made so use that as your main vise and the big old knock off as your beater or welding vise. you really should get a piece of RR track to beat on instead of a vise just an FYI.

in any case WELL DONE and welcome to the forum.

Tedsters: at least your memory is still working. neither of us (Doc who you passed it on to and me) could travel with it and shipping didn't make sense and GMan needed a couple good vises so it ended up in good hands. I think I saw a date of Dec. 2014 when you originally picked it up for me when you didn't want to own it and the seller wanted to sell 2 or 3 other ones you did so we made the package deal. I REALLY DID WANT IT STILL and GMan might even bring it in a suitcase to trade it for something else if he ends up coming out here for work. thanks again and glad you are back with us after a little break.

 

[Benzmaster0]

Grousman, it does look like the taskmaster but without the lettering. Here is a clearer pic of the logo. It's an arrow in what looks like a tp symbol. Probably is some sort of clone because the really is no other visible markings that I could see.
Drivesitfar, you hit it on the head. I've been moving some of my old tool boxes to my house and wanted to mount a pair of vises onto a butcher block top. The reed will go on one side and I wanted to put somthing else on the back side for welding and such. I may have to think about getting an anvil of sorts if it's a bad idea to pound on the 6 inch. That was the original plan. If so what size rail road track am I looking for and whereabouts should I look?

 

[tedsters]

drives
Glad to see a member ended up with the prentiss, I may have an accidental buyer for my Prentiss 22 rear swivel don't have it for sale it just got brought up in a conversation

 

[Z3K3Y]

Hey folks. Ive picked up a dozen or so vises since my last vise post.. but today i got something i thought was super cool . its a Record 35P vise. Im not sure if this is missing a quick release mech? it doesnt seem to be missing anything from the front view. but the bottom view looks like there is some room for missing hardware. once i take it apart ill try to figure it all out. if anyone wants to share any info or approx age that would be appreciated. i bought it off a gentlemen whos family brought it to canada from england in 1982. its the only record i have that is cast RECORD STEEL. i was also wondering what the numbers on the other side are? are they patent numbers?

 

[CwazyWabbit]

The 35P wasn't a quick release vice, the P stands for plain screw. The No 35 was the quick release variant and used the same castings, in fact if you look at a No 35 you will see where they have ground the P off of the dynamic jaw.

 

[Z3K3Y]

The 35P wasn't a quick release vice, the P stands for plain screw. The No 35 was the quick release variant and used the same castings, in fact if you look at a No 35 you will see where they have ground the P off of the dynamic jaw.

Ah ok I see! Thanks for that info! any ideas on the numbers on the side? im going to look at another vice after supper today with the same type of numbers. heres some pictures of that one. doesnt say record on it. but im assuming thats the manufacturer

 

[CwazyWabbit]

.... as for dating it the Record vices in the 1935 catalogue state they are made of steel (and show steel written on the side) but by the 1950 catalogue they state malleable iron.
I'd say the change is probably something that happened during the war.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Ah ok I see! Thanks for that info! any ideas on the numbers on the side? im going to look at another vice after supper today with the same type of numbers. heres some pictures of that one. doesnt say record on it. but im assuming thats the manufacturer

Pretty certain this one is a Parkinson Handy vise. You'll find a Parkinson catalogue if you follow the link in my signature (along with a few others).

RD numbers are Registered Design numbers, a bit like a patent

 

[Z3K3Y]

Pretty certain this one is a Parkinson Handy vise. You'll find a Parkinson catalogue if you follow the link in my signature (along with a few others).

RD numbers are Registered Design numbers, a bit like a patent

ok great. ya it does look like a Parkinson from the catalog. thanks for the link. Hopefully i can bring it home tonite even though my vise fund is tapped for now.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Will be good to see pictures if you do get it, always interesting to see how far vices travel from their home. Don't see anywhere near as many Parkinsons overseas as you do the more common Records.

 

[dutchgray]

Yep definitely a Parkinson Handy No3
Buy it if its decent and not too much money, I like them they have more style to them than the Record pattern.
Will be a 4" so a useful size.

 

[dutchgray]

CW
Don't see too many Parkinson's here compared to Record either, but there is always a few decent ones to buy if your after one.

 

[Z3K3Y]

Yep definitely a Parkinson Handy No3
Buy it if its decent and not too much money, I like them they have more style to them than the Record pattern.
Will be a 4" so a useful size.

ya it does look kinda neat. i thought there was maybe a chip broken off one of the jaw plates. but seller messaged me back saying no chips or nothing. so im probably going to pick it up in a few hours. its about a 40 min drive away for me. and it not too much money .

 

[jakemac]

Missed out on a 6" Wilton Tradesman today. It sold on wed. in a private pre-sale. The buyer bought the bench and the vise went with it. I didn't ask what he paid. I just didn't want to know.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

CW
Don't see too many Parkinson's here compared to Record either, but there is always a few decent ones to buy if your after one.

True, I see so many Records I've sort of mentally blocked them out and forget how many there are.

 

[dutchgray]

True, I see so many Records I've sort of mentally blocked them out and forget how many there are.

I feel the same way, only look at the interesting ones.

 

[Z3K3Y]

Well the stars didnt align tonite. but tomorrow ill be driving to see it during the afternoon. should be bringing it home . ill be sure to post some pictures

 

[Username already in use]

Scored this sweet Columbian wood working vise this morning at the flea for just $10!
Needs some TLC, but everything seems to work well.

 

[joe.striper]

Seriously, what should I pay for this Cfman 5188, which is a rebadged 205R. Cannot find a thing about them....5" jaws, 100+ pounds. It is going to be north of 150

 

[Lump]

Hey guys, I need your help. I am trying to help some family members settle an estate, and I have been asked to price all the tools and garage stuff. The old gentleman who passed away had an older-looking bench vise, but I can find no name on it. It does not bear the usual markings of a Chinese-made vise. For example, the handle is not plated, and looks to be pretty old. But I cannot find a name on it. One side does have a logo, which is an "N" inside a square, along with some numbers. In the attached image, that "N" logo is just to the left of the number "2" on the dynamic jaw. Any ideas?

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[drivesitfar]

Lump: pretty sure that is an imported from China Wilton vise and in that condition maybe $40 depending on where you are located. cleaned up painted and restored I think they sell for just over $100, but others here might know better. I own a few and they are good vises, but not near the quality of a Wilton bullet or C series vise they sell for big money.

Joe: I had one and it went south in a trade deal a couple years ago. what would you pay for a 5 inch wide jaw REED in VISE HEAVEN? my guess there isn't much room for resale at that price point, but it is WORTH MORE. if you need it to fill in a gap in your CRAFTSMAN shelf then it's not the most i'd pay for it. it's one of my favorite designs and guessing late 30's or early 40's production date.

ALL: so I found a guy selling of some of his gems yesterday and had my hands on a few nice BIG vises. can't say i'll buy one of them or 10 because he had more than a few tucked here and there, but my juices were flowing and it almost had my head spinning. still haven't seen a 8 inch wide jaw in person even though one of the vises I saw yesterday might have been 220 pounds. pictures and vises will come soon as I fix technical issues.

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY ALL

 

[Lobo74]

Is $70.00 too much for a Reed 103 1/2. I'm not collecting. I'm buying it to mount and use. Vise is very clean, works well, no rust and the jaws look almost unused (teeth are in excellent condition). Guy is asking $99, said he would take $75 about a year ago or so. The other day he came down to $70.00. Thanks for any feedback.

 

[tedsters]

drives
I have only seen one 8in jaw in person it was a Holland's 18 fixed base what a monster, it's actually a GJ Member I can't say who because he has never put a pic on here of it he has it on a big cast stand from a band saw total weight of both is around 700lbs and it's a user, I was sitting in a lawn chair drinking a soda and talking to him 20 minutes or so before I seen it, I have never seen a vise set up like this the top of the saw stand had a 1-1/4 steel plate on top that the vise set on.
I was impressed

 

[jakemac]

Is $70.00 too much for a Reed 103 1/2. I'm not collecting. I'm buying it to mount and use. Vise is very clean, works well, no rust and the jaws look almost unused (teeth are in excellent condition). Guy is asking $99, said he would take $75 about a year ago or so. The other day he came down to $70.00. Thanks for any feedback.

Depending on its condition, go for it. They can be had for less, but you'd likely have to put some work into the search and wait some time for it to come around. Most of the "you ****" deals you see on the forum were due to hard work searching, driving, and negotiating. It's rare to blindly fall into the deal of a lifetime.

For example, I know for a fact that joe.striper seems to fall into a goldmine every other day. But the real reason he's so prolific is because of the extraordinary amount of hard work he does to make contacts, chase down leads, and the miles he travels to close the deal. He treats his hobby as a second job and the results pay off.

If you pass on the Reed, I think you'll end up regretting it. While you look for a better deal, the one that got away will haunt you. Besides, if you end up finding something better later, you could always sell this one to get some money back. In the meantime you'll have a good working vise that will hold its value for some time to come.

 

[Outlawmws]

Is $70.00 too much for a Reed 103 1/2. I'm not collecting. I'm buying it to mount and use. Vise is very clean, works well, no rust and the jaws look almost unused (teeth are in excellent condition). Guy is asking $99, said he would take $75 about a year ago or so. The other day he came down to $70.00. Thanks for any feedback.

What Jake said! : ^^^

Consider what you would get for that $70 new Asian, (As that is the only vises, near that price...)

 

[drivesitfar]

LOBO: you might have seen a post or two or three of mine here on the vise thread. yes? well i'm not trying to blow Sunshine you know where, but REED is probably my FAVORITE VISE COMPANY and especially their old vises so i'd buy that one to add to my shelf for $70 in a heartbeat and I DON'T NEED A VISE.

get it and if it's not welded, cracked or broken and works ok it will last you to hand to your son or probably your grandson 50 years from now. pretty cheap investment for a tool that could last your lifetime.

Tedsters: yep I've seen and own some HUGE VISES, but when the guys post pictures of the 300 pounders on cool stands those REALLY get my attention.

TJ: speaking of HUGE VISES now that you might be tired or maybe have run out of that bright green paint any more pictures of your Prentiss 98??

Jake: WELL SAID about the REED and JOE'S deals.

ZZ: where in Oregon do you live. I can't guarantee I have any vises left that you might like to buy, but PM me with your email and a price range and next time I'm in Oregon seeing friends or clients I might have it in my car for you. also I have a friend and GJ member coming up here next weekend to pick up some stuff and I bet he'd be happy to meet up with you to hand you a vise if you might find one I have that you like. i'm letting a few vises find GJ member's benches the past few months so I can actually find the flat surface of one of my maybe 20 benches.

or enjoy the HUNT and find one in the wild like I and a few of us have and tell us the story and post up pictures. sometimes the HUNT is actually more fun than actually using them when they smile at you from that shelf.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

I guess the American 8" vises must be a lot bigger than the English ones. I have 3 English ones and although one is a big old chunk of iron the other two are relatively easy to lift.

 

[drivesitfar]

CW: the first 150 pound vise I saw was a Rock Island 577 and it's only a 6 inch wide jaw was EYE OPENING. I hope you get to see one of the big 300 pounders in person and then you'll know why some of the guys like them as much as we do.

I think my 6 inch Record QR weighed only about 70 pounds.

Speaking of EYE OPENING have you English guys seen each others collections and shops yet or maybe a Vice Alocholics sort of bi annual or monthly meetings.

cheers and happy MUM'S DAY

 

[CwazyWabbit]

All of my 8"ers are Records, a 114 at 90 pounds, a Record Leader No16 at 120 pounds and a No48 at 240 pounds. The 114 is ductile iron, the No16 is welded steel and the No48 is cast iron.

So even the large one is smaller than the American 8 inchers.

I've never met any of the other English collectors, although we do PM from time to time .... and have our virtual cup of tea

 

[dutchgray]

CW & drives
American vises are definitely a different animal to ours, my 8" record 114p is only 90lb odd, I know CW has the very old and rare very heavy Record, but mine is total overkill for what I actually need and my day to day vice is the Parkinson No 7
I think the American ones often open more than ours for a given size and that would be useful, if I found a large American for sale I would definitely buy it but the supply is very limited.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

I've noticed when American vises do appear on eBay over here they don't seem to command much money ..... often see them remain unsold.

 

[tedsters]

drives
The first 8 or 9 jaw I find if the price is of an earthly reasoning you will see me posting pics of it from my barn.

joe
That long C craftsman is a nice user, not a money maker

 

[dutchgray]

CW
The American ones definitely do hang about on eBay over here, some are priced high so you can understand that but the cheap ones don't attract much attention and often sell for 1 bid. I don't think there are many collectors here to snap them up and the average buyer looking for a good user vice only seems interested in Record, most probably don't even know about our other quality makes.

 

[Lobo74]

Depending on its condition, go for it. They can be had for less, but you'd likely have to put some work into the search and wait some time for it to come around. Most of the "you ****" deals you see on the forum were due to hard work searching, driving, and negotiating. It's rare to blindly fall into the deal of a lifetime.

For example, I know for a fact that joe.striper seems to fall into a goldmine every other day. But the real reason he's so prolific is because of the extraordinary amount of hard work he does to make contacts, chase down leads, and the miles he travels to close the deal. He treats his hobby as a second job and the results pay off.

If you pass on the Reed, I think you'll end up regretting it. While you look for a better deal, the one that got away will haunt you. Besides, if you end up finding something better later, you could always sell this one to get some money back. In the meantime you'll have a good working vise that will hold its value for some time to come.

What Jake said! : ^^^

Consider what you would get for that $70 new Asian, (As that is the only vises, near that price...)

LOBO: you might have seen a post or two or three of mine here on the vise thread. yes? well i'm not trying to blow Sunshine you know where, but REED is probably my FAVORITE VISE COMPANY and especially their old vises so i'd buy that one to add to my shelf for $70 in a heartbeat and I DON'T NEED A VISE.

get it and if it's not welded, cracked or broken and works ok it will last you to hand to your son or probably your grandson 50 years from now. pretty cheap investment for a tool that could last your lifetime.

Jake: WELL SAID about the REED and JOE'S deals.

Thanks for all the feedback gentleman. Greatly appreciated. Joe

 

[Evergreentree]

Evening guys-snatched up this no4 this morning, mostly because I'm a bit perplexed by it. It reads pat pen made in USA on one side. It's Stamped 4-47, so it's possibly first year made, second year sold?

 

[Evergreentree]

Other side says Wilton tool Corp.