Neglected century barn is becoming my workshop and garage

[madoc1]

link please?

lg
no neat sig line

mytractorforum.com
techie upgraded the links on his 4 wheel steering.

 

[RibsBrisket4me]

Techie1961,
Epic work, epic results, epic GJ thread!

 

[AZpilot]

I found this tool post grinder on Kijiji and the guy was decent enough to hold onto it for the week until I could manage it. Now I have to figure out how to mount it on my lathe and where to get wheels.

I got it VERY cheap and was shocked last night when I looked at how much they are new. Almost $2K USD!

That is beyond awesome. An awesome amount of work as well. Great job!

 

[Techie1961]

techie, i see you made the front page of the tractor forum. more good work!

jim

Thanks Jim! I see it now on the left side of the home page. This is the article. http://www.mytractorforum.com/232-a...43114-john-deere-4x5-aws-linkage-rebuild.html

I really appreciate every one that has dropped in and the compliments and comments. It's cool to have a place that I can go into anytime at all and get things done. I have to confess that it would be nice if I could drive a vehicle in there to work on but maybe later. I'd have to move and possibly remove (I should slap myself for saying this) some tools.

Yeah, xtremek, I was worried about covering too much of the walls but I think it's okay. Still lots of stone to be seen there.

 

[Techie1961]

I found this vise on Kijiji last night and picked it up this morning. I think it was a good price at $100 but I'll be honest, I thought it was a bit bigger when I saw it online. Regardless, it's in like new condition but that wasn't obvious from the way it was when I got it.

Once I got it all apart, it was even more obvious that it was barely used. The jaws are in great shape as well as the screw. I had a heck of a time getting the jaws off since they were very rusty. Only one came out in one piece and one had to be TIG'd to remove it. The sand that I used was very fine.

Now I have to figure out what colour to paint it. It was green when I got it and there was some cream colour under that. Anyone know what it would have been?

 

[Bears Fan]

I know the colors have changed over the years and my Wilton is not to old, but it is the original paint, I would call it a light hammer blue...

 

[madoc1]

whats with the spring and ball behind the jaw?



jim

 

[longlivepunk]

That's a stuck bolt with some weld metal on it to rapidly heat it and try to shock it loose.

Everything is looking great as always! Love your shop.

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[Techie1961]

I know the colors have changed over the years and my Wilton is not to old, but it is the original paint, I would call it a light hammer blue...

Thanks BF, I like that colour and will try to find it.

whats with the spring and ball behind the jaw?


jim

Haha, you threw me there. I was trying to find the spring and ball in all of the photos, even Bears Fan's. Like longlivepunk says, it is some TIG'd on metal to get out the broken screw.

That's a stuck bolt with some weld metal on it to rapidly heat it and try to shock it loose.

Everything is looking great as always! Love your shop.

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Thanks! Much appreciated.

 

[Techie1961]

Not much done in there today as my back is acting up a bit. The vise is a little bit further along. The bullet nose was dented a bit and while it looks like a regular frost plug, I figured I'd give straightening it a shot. I suppose I should have taken pictures of the method but it worked and I was on a roll.

I also pulled the bottom key off of the dynamic and polished the turned portion. Date code puts it at 10-51 which I think is October of 1951.

 

[Techie1961]

I finished off my new Wilton 2.5" 825 vise and shot some photos. I couldn't find the Verde Green that a lot of you mentioned but in Canada there is a Rosemary colour that I thought I would give a try.

 

[-Brent-]

Wow, what a thread. I'm sad I'm done with it, now.

One of the things I love about threads like this and guys like you is that the a good portion of the tools are used. And, after a piece is restored it seems to fit into restoring the next piece. Your collection seems to be growing with out too much in the way of duplication or multiples. At first, that's not at all what I would have assumed by seeing the tractor line-up.

Keep up the stellar work. I look forward to another 30 pages.

 

[smschriefer]

I like the color you chose. It almost looks like a light bronze to me, but I know it is just the photo. I'm surprised they don't sell Rustoleum Verde Green in the hammertone finish in Canada, but understand that things aren't available everywhere.

Great job on everything!

 

[larry_g]

I'm waiting to see how that VanNorman mill comes out....

lg
no neat sig line

 

[longlivepunk]

PINK WITH RAINBOW POLKADOTS!

Ahem! ...pardon my outburst.

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[Techie1961]

Wow, what a thread. I'm sad I'm done with it, now.

One of the things I love about threads like this and guys like you is that the a good portion of the tools are used. And, after a piece is restored it seems to fit into restoring the next piece. Your collection seems to be growing with out too much in the way of duplication or multiples. At first, that's not at all what I would have assumed by seeing the tractor line-up.

Keep up the stellar work. I look forward to another 30 pages.

Thank you very much for the kind words. I don't really have any display only tools in there and definitely have been guilty of some tool abuse at times. Funny though that I'm becoming more particular about appearance of my tools now that I have this shop. I'm a little more inclined to do it nice now.

The beauty of the tractors all being the same is that each one can run any of the implements other than anything that needs the 3 point.

I like the color you chose. It almost looks like a light bronze to me, but I know it is just the photo. I'm surprised they don't sell Rustoleum Verde Green in the hammertone finish in Canada, but understand that things aren't available everywhere.

Great job on everything!

Thanks! I gave up on the green after going to Lowes, Home Depot, and Canadian Tire. At that point, I figured the Rosemary was worth trying out. I admit that I would prefer the verde green but it does look pretty good.

I'm waiting to see how that VanNorman mill comes out....

lg
no neat sig line

Might be a bit of a wait on that one. With warmer weather here, the grass is keeping me busy and when that's done, the other upkeep seems to come on quickly.

PINK WITH RAINBOW POLKADOTS!

Ahem! ...pardon my outburst.

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No! I'm not pardoning you since that was just plain silly.

 

[yossarian19]

A Wilton guy I met tells me that date codes were when the warranty period expired, so your vise would have been a 1946 (by one man's claim anyway)

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[bulletpruf]

Nice job on the little bullet, Techie. Definitely looks like it wasn't used much; jaws look very nice.

I just picked up a 3.5" and 4.5" in the Chicago area (I was home on leave) that I need to restore.

 

[Techie1961]

A Wilton guy I met tells me that date codes were when the warranty period expired, so your vise would have been a 1946 (by one man's claim anyway)

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That's interesting to know. Thanks!

Nice job on the little bullet, Techie. Definitely looks like it wasn't used much; jaws look very nice.

I just picked up a 3.5" and 4.5" in the Chicago area (I was home on leave) that I need to restore.

Thanks bulletpruf, yes I was very pleased to clean it up and see such a nice vise under the grunge. Good find on the two you picked up. I have been keeping my eyes open for any Wiltons that are reasonably priced and they don't come up often.

 

[Techie1961]

I have been searching for some vise jaws for my Record 6" since one of them was found without jaws. They are very expensive though even from China since there's shipping and the exchange rate. I have given up and made my own.

I picked up a 36" length of 1/2" x 1" O-1 tool steel with that being the same size as the original Records. I wanted them to be as close to original as possible and cut the teeth pattern on my mill. The original knurl is at 25 degrees with a spacing of 0.0625". It's a good thing that I remember my decimals in 0.0625" increments.

The mill was set to 45 degrees on the head and then I turned the vise to 25 degrees. It took a little while but went quite well. I didn't even screw up once.

Once machined, it was time to heat treat them. I used my torch and a bucket of old hydraulic oil. Brought them up cherry red and quenched.

After that, I belt sanded the surfaces and then drew them back to a light straw colour with the torch. That should bring it in about Rockwell C 60. I'm not too concerned with being exact on the hardness.

And the final product in the vise. The old ones will go into the other Record that I have.

 

[86turbodsl]

Well done sir!

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[yossarian19]

Holy hell! That's gorgeous! Nice job on the Record... Man, I'm continually impressed with the quality of you work. Gives a shmoe like me something to aspire to. Have I already said that? Probably... I'll stop gushing

 

[vekster]

Wow.
That is awesome on the jaws. I can not wait until I get a mill.
Nice job Techie!


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[Bears Fan]

Man now that is impressive making your own jaws and very well done

 

[RacerRick]

Nice job on the Wilton. I saw it on kijiji but decided it was was too small. I will find a good 6" vise for the new bench I built.

 

[drivesitfar]

Tech: I know you've seen me and we've discussed several great projects on other threads and sorry I haven't been here before. I haven't gone through and read your entire thread which probably is great, but I hope to some day.

that said I wanted to hop on board and see what you are up to with some of your amazing talent and projects.

your orange pipe stand still is etched into my memory and trying to find some wall space of mine that doesn't have a rack or metal cabinet to make one and set up one some day. or move and get a HUGE SHOP.

cheers and looking forward to seeing some of your STUFF AND TALENT

 

[bulletpruf]

I have been searching for some vise jaws for my Record 6" since one of them was found without jaws. They are very expensive though even from China since there's shipping and the exchange rate. I have given up and made my own.

I picked up a 36" length of 1/2" x 1" O-1 tool steel with that being the same size as the original Records. I wanted them to be as close to original as possible and cut the teeth pattern on my mill. The original knurl is at 25 degrees with a spacing of 0.0625". It's a good thing that I remember my decimals in 0.0625" increments.

The mill was set to 45 degrees on the head and then I turned the vise to 25 degrees. It took a little while but went quite well. I didn't even screw up once.

Once machined, it was time to heat treat them. I used my torch and a bucket of old hydraulic oil. Brought them up cherry red and quenched.

After that, I belt sanded the surfaces and then drew them back to a light straw colour with the torch. That should bring it in about Rockwell C 60. I'm not too concerned with being exact on the hardness.

And the final product in the vise. The old ones will go into the other Record that I have.

Techie -

Beautiful job on the jaws!

Scott

 

[Yarz]

Holy cow, those look factory!

 

[Techie1961]

Who knew that a couple of vise jaws would be so interesting but this is Garage Journal. While they are easy to make, they did take some time but yes, I'm really pleased with how they came out. Thanks a bunch to all of the compliments, especially the gushing.

Kind of curious as I'd like to make more of these and sell them. Are there many others out there that make jaws? Is this something that people are interested in?

 

[longlivepunk]

I have two 6" Records, if you're looking to get some feedback.

Just kidding. Those are ****** gorgeous though, nice job!! Be warned though, Records done always have the bolts for the jaws in the same place. On my two the jaws aren't compatible.

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[Techie1961]

I have two 6" Records, if you're looking to get some feedback.

Just kidding. Those are ****** gorgeous though, nice job!! Be warned though, Records don't always have the bolts for the jaws in the same place. On my two the jaws aren't compatible.

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Thanks! I know what you mean about the screw positions. My No6 has them in the spots that the new jaws have while my 6VS had smaller jaws and the screws were closer to the centre. This is a photo of the two screw locations.

This is where I machined the land for the other jaws and then I drilled the new holes.

 

[bulletpruf]

Techie -

http://www.wiltonviseparts.net - Wilton stuff only here, but he has another site for non-Wilton vises, too.

Plenty of jaws on eBay, too.

Scott

 

[Bears Fan]

Those Records look amazing! And that's some pretty fancy machinist work too

 

[Grumblebum]

Hi Techie,

Found your thread yesterday and man that is an awesome space. Well done

I was thinking about the I-beam and a chain hoist setup that might run under the main centre beam, but that would likely mean you would need more support posts too over that 28' span that would restrict the hoist operation and you'd have to dig in more footings in your concrete floor.

Funnily I typed I-beam chain hoist into Google and found a GJ thread on shop cranes.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184403

Maybe you could make a smaller version of what is shown in post #4 to suit your space, make it wide enough to to straddle your welding table to get things on and off perhaps ? Paint it blue and the chain hoist the burnt orange with blue highlights. Anyway that was my random thought process.

Can I ask what the arbor press is typically used for ?

I also think you've helped me with a color scheme for some things in my garage too.

Cheers GB

 

[BuickFarmer]

Man you don't half *** anything do you bro? All is looking well so looks like I can get back to turnin wrenches left again. KUTGW!!

 

[Techie1961]

Those Records look amazing! And that's some pretty fancy machinist work too

Thanks Bears Fan! It was a bit tricky to machine since the bottom was convex. Nothing flat to rest it on. The four clamps acted a bit like a 4-jaw chuck and I indicated it into position.

Hi Techie,

Found your thread yesterday and man that is an awesome space. Well done

I was thinking about the I-beam and a chain hoist setup that might run under the main centre beam, but that would likely mean you would need more support posts too over that 28' span that would restrict the hoist operation and you'd have to dig in more footings in your concrete floor.

Funnily I typed I-beam chain hoist into Google and found a GJ thread on shop cranes.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184403

Maybe you could make a smaller version of what is shown in post #4 to suit your space, make it wide enough to to straddle your welding table to get things on and off perhaps ? Paint it blue and the chain hoist the burnt orange with blue highlights. Anyway that was my random thought process.

Can I ask what the arbor press is typically used for ?

I also think you've helped me with a color scheme for some things in my garage too.

Cheers GB

Cool thread GB, I hadn't seen it before. I'm a bit on the fence about a hoist in there at this point but it's still a possibility. Of course it would have to be Burnt Orange and Royal Blue.

I actually use the arbor press quite a bit. There's the obvious use such as putting a bearing on and pushing bearings out. I also use it to bend things and straighten stuff. Lots of very controllable force available.

Man you don't half *** anything do you bro? All is looking well so looks like I can get back to turnin wrenches left again. KUTGW!!

Hahaha thanks BF! I've noticed this type of behavior from others on this site as well. Ring any bells?

 

[TwoBytes]

Who knew that a couple of vise jaws would be so interesting but this is Garage Journal.

Are you kidding... this is awesome!

Not sure if this makes me weird, but I want to print that picture and put it in a frame.

 

[plexxarn]

This is what happens when I stay away from GJ too long. I miss great threads like this!

I really enjoyed reading this, especially the first pages of it. Seems our projects have a lot in common. Old neglected buildings with no proper floor and too small doors.

The place came out great!
You sure have a lot of equipment in there that I'm jealous of
By the way, our blue drill press looks exacly like mine, but mine is green and Kamasa branded.

 

[Hugo L.]

This thread, and your skills, are absolutely amazing.

Proud to be a fellow canucklehead!

 

[jbmatth]

I have just finished reading your thread after a few too many weeks of trying but being distracted by my own lack of progress, work, and family. You do some great restorations on equipment as everyone else has mentioned. If you get into making vise jaws and can make orders to suit I have a couple of vises that could use some jaws made for them.
JB