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TMcCay

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This must be one of the oldest threads that keeps getting resurrected every few years. Ten years old and still refuses to die.
 

mavrick96

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I'd like to say that every garage door since 1993 should have a torque sensor on the gear atop the operator that reverses the door should the force exceed that needed to lower the door.

On my garage door, I can stop it with one hand.

Also, these safety eyes seem to be a problem for a lot of people, not only are they a secondary measure after the torque sensor, but the transmitting unit loses power after about 5 years and cost $50 to replace, because it seems you have to buy the transmitter and receiver in a pair. This seems like another government endorsed racket.

So, I made a circuit that you can connect between terminal 2 and 3 on the garage operator and it will simulate the undisturbed beam safety eyes signal. The 555B is a 555 Timer, the main component, which cost $1-$2, the rest of the components, 5 resistors, 2 capacitors, 2 mosfets, and 1 diode, probably cost around $3-$4, so about $5 instead of $50 and the bypasser should last indefinitely.

Be sure to check all laws and neighborhood codes first, of course. This circuit is for educational purposes, solely.
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Does anyone know what the thermometer-shaped symbol with a V is on the right side of the diagram ?
 

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I always thought those sensors are a pain in the **** until last week. My wife came home after work and didn't close the garage door, I want it closed I don't want people seeing my stuff from a busy road.

I'm out in the attached garage getting a drink from the garage after I hit the button to close the door. My hyper Jack Russel's come flying out of the house and the younger one thinks he can make it under the door even though it was lower than he stands.
He made it as far as his neck and it flattened his legs sideways and pinned him to the floor and he let out a god awful noise. I'm screaming thinking the worst run up the stairs to hit the button, he pops up off the ground up the steps to my wife like nothing happened thank god.

The clutch safety is adjusted according to instructions but I took the eyes and mounted them again. I can live with the wires showing on the drywall as I'm not crawling in the ceiling better than I can live with killing my dog!
 

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Ok, finally an easy answer to this question......and yes it works and it will only cost about a dollar.

 
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I went years without having sensors on one of my garage doors.

They were totally unplugged and when I wanted to close the garage door all I had to do what press and hold the button until the garage door was fully down.

It was a little time consuming obviously but it worked.
 

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I have more questions than answers.
Still have yet to hear a compelling reason to bypass the sensors.

If your don't want to step over the sensors put a keyless entry on or add a extra wall button by the door opening on the inside. cheap and far more useful. If the door is up all you have to do is push enter to close and all the doors coded to the keyless will close.

I love getting the phone calls from those that bypass the sensors and damage panels like the one I got Saturday. Not a cheap repair but money for me. The great part is they all want the eyes put back in working order.
 

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Still have yet to hear a compelling reason to bypass the sensors.
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Not a good enough reason for me, still have little kids at home, but the sensors keep sending the door back up when the sun is in the wrong position. For the last week, I haven't been able to get the door down without getting out to shade the sensor.

Any fixes for that
 

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Not a good enough reason for me, still have little kids at home, but the sensors keep sending the door back up when the sun is in the wrong position. For the last week, I haven't been able to get the door down without getting out to shade the sensor.

Any fixes for that[/QUOTE

The fix for the setting sun blinding your sensor: Did this myself because the Dealers Installer Mistakenly Reverse Oriented the sensor in relation to the setting sun.

Cut a short length of 2" ABS Black Drain Pipe, notch one end and install it so it shields the extraneous light from shining into the sensor; think of Blinders for a horse. Total cost, Less than a buck.

When those sensors eventually died at the end of their life exptancy, I had the Garage Door Service Company mount the new ones correctly.
 

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The solution has been posted a couple of times....mount 'em high, face to face and adjust it properly so the door goes back up if it touches anything in the way.

That is the way mine is and it has worked just fine over the years. There is too much junk in my garage to have it any other way.

What is interesting here, is the number of people who have left the scene, and no longer post, including the original poster.
 
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Still have yet to hear a compelling reason to bypass the sensors.

Because they want $40.00-$60.00 for a new set when the original ones wear out, and some people don't like being forced to buy things. Don't we have enough government control in our lives already?
 

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Because they want $40.00-$60.00 for a new set when the original ones wear out, and some people don't like being forced to buy things. Don't we have enough government control in our lives already?

Still haven't heard a compelling reason.

that just say's yours are broke and you don't want to fix it correctly.

clearly your choice.

I guess you hate buying food as well.
 

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I wanna know why he removed all the airbags .... :headscrat

Don't know why he did it, but if you're out and about, and need to push someone out of the way or find yourself behind a clever person, the airbags and cut-off need to go.

Best way to stop a car coming after you? Make sure you have a steel bumper, get in front of them, and slam on the brakes. Disable the driver and the vehicle in one shot.

It's also useful, at times, to install a disconnect if you spend a lot of time off pavement, or simply remove one or more entirely. You also get extra storage space.
 

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....For the last week, I haven't been able to get the door down without getting out to shade the sensor.

Any fixes for that

Switch the sensors around. One sensor is a transmitter and one is a receiver. Try swapping them around.

When I installed my new garage door openers, they came with the safety sensors. The instructions mentioned bright sunlight and said to mount the receiver sensor on the side of the garage door that was NOT in the direct sunlight at any time.

I did that and mine work fine. My garage doors face directly east (I live in New Jersey), so the sun is always shining on side of the doors that faces south. It's even worse in the winter when the sun does not come up as high in the sky.

I don't know if all safety sensors are like this, but it worked for me.

Jim
 

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Posted 08-10-2006, 04:42 PM

I'm going to vote to fix your problem, and certainly not bypass the system. If you need to, run a new wire, but don't make your garage door a potential hazzard to someone not "in the know". Jeez. What's next -- disconnecting your air bag in the car?

In retrospect, not a bad idea.
 
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Switch the sensors around. One sensor is a transmitter and one is a receiver. Try swapping them around.

When I installed my new garage door openers, they came with the safety sensors. The instructions mentioned bright sunlight and said to mount the receiver sensor on the side of the garage door that was NOT in the direct sunlight at any time.

I did that and mine work fine. My garage doors face directly east (I live in New Jersey), so the sun is always shining on side of the doors that faces south. It's even worse in the winter when the sun does not come up as high in the sky.

I don't know if all safety sensors are like this, but it worked for me.

Jim

Have to switch them twice a year, because the setting sun does it too at certain times of the year.

I'll make up some shrouds to shade them.
 

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Seen many marital diputes over sunlight and sensors!
Wife comes home, door won't close. Calls husband bitching, husband gets home 20 min later..door works fine. Funny when they each think the other is ******* crazy. :lol_hitti
 

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These type threads remind me of the dog breeder vs animal shelter arguments.

Someone is talking about a new puppy they just got from a breeder and all these vultures come on and rip them for not getting a dog from a shelter.

If you don't agree with what someone does you can just move along. The OP asked if there was a way to by-pass the sensors. He didn't ask if you thought he should or if it compared to removing your cars airbag. Just because you or I don't agree with him possibly doing it doesn't mean we need to come rip him (or anyone else) who wants to.

Whether I have sensors or not on my door I stand there and watch my door go all the way down. You know why? Because I have kids and pets and I'm a responsible person and pay attention. Those sensors are just like most other things, things to prevent dumb people from hurting themselves or others.
 

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I never read through all the posts but have some experience with the results of the old style door.

A young man who was dating a fave niece of mine for a signifigant amount of time had his only sibling killed under a door when they were both young children. He witnessed it and has many problems today because of the traumatic effect. Maybe it was mishandled by family or whatnot after the fact I have no way of knowing. This young man comes from a professional home, inherited his fathers supreme intellect, and could have the world at his fingertips but is instead filled with demons and can't break the downhill spiral of broken relationships,booze,DUI,s etc.

I am usually all for the Darwin aspect but one does need to consider who are the vulnerable ones.

Funny how this post was never quoted or referenced in any replies. Set aside what you think of the government or lawyers, safety is what matters here.
 
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Have to switch them twice a year, because the setting sun does it too at certain times of the year.

I'll make up some shrouds to shade them.

That is an issue. To have to sun mess with them that often is a good reason to incorporate some shrouds of some type.

If you do make the shrouds, please post what you did and a few pictures if you can. That would help others who are having issues with their sensors also.

Jim
 

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