The VISES of Garage Journal

[454ragtop]

Here is my recently acquired Craftsman. Not sure of year.

Welcome. Is that a 5216 like the one I posted here earlier today (1 page back)?Don't ever remember seeing one before, now 2 in 1 day.......
Jim

 

[joe.striper]

Joe

Looking at the nice buff work on those jaws is encouraging me to get a buffer together, you sure do good work on all your vises and grinders you have posted

Thanks so much. I appreciate it.

Since Im posting, here are better pics of my newest swiveler. Base is still in the ground, gotta go get it.

Anyway, i cannot believe how clean this vise is. I need to make a new swivel handle for the body rotation and adjust the dynamic jaw head angle but otherwisr it is very, very good

Base swivel lock is very unique. There are base detents that the pin slides into. The body swivel is gery, very smooth.

The main spindle is of very small diameter. This was not desig n ed for heavy work.

 

[Outlawmws]

VERY cool Vise Joe! I'm still thinking for a pattern maker to carve the patterns for sand molds. That one would NEVER leave my shop if I had it!

 

[joe.striper]

Here are my final Craftsman 5196 pics. I shot them 5 times, I was never really happy with them, this is the best of the lot.

The Hammerite light blue is very close to the original paint so that's what I went with. The jaw supports were perfect and other than a few marks on the slide top this is a very, very clean Craftsman. I appreciate all the compliments, while I sell everything, profit isn't my main drive, I just REALLY like to restore these.

 

[econotrk]

VERY cool Vise Joe! I'm still thinking for a pattern maker to carve the patterns for sand molds. That one would NEVER leave my shop if I had it!

+1, that's sooo nice Joe!

 

[joe.striper]

VERY cool Vise Joe! I'm still thinking for a pattern maker to carve the patterns for sand molds. That one would NEVER leave my shop if I had it!

The stand is cool. I am getting a brake drum from my buddy who owns a large trucking company to bolt it to. Chances are good that this will be a keeper for me. I've already had a number of GJ members reach out to me about it, but this one isn't lined up for resale. It is a very lightly made vise and it isn't designed for heavy work. Upon inspection today I was surprised how lightly it was made. The jaws are VERY tall for their width. The head doesn't rotate 360 degrees because the jaws hit the base, but they still rotate enough.

I made the mistake of selling a 6" Post Leg vise a month ago unrestored in order to gain some capital for my purchases. The buyer reached out to me today all excited because it turns out the 6" vise I sold was made by Peter Wright. It was there under all the rust and dirt. Man was I pissed. If I knew it was a Peter Wright Post Leg Vise I would NEVER have sold it.

From the buyer:

"I hope you are well. When I left your shop you had asked me to send a picture of what the vise looked like after I got it mounted and cleaned up. I took the surface layer of grime off, but did not want to remove everything down to clear metal. In doing this I discovered that it was a Peter Wright vise. From What I can find out on different forums, this can date back to 1863, when the solid box thread was patented by Peter Wright. I am enclosing a few pics of the vise holding my felling saw and a detail of the inscription.
If you can read it,is says:
P. WRIGHT

PATENT

SOLID BOX"

All I can say is I **** (and not the good way).

Oh I included a chart that you guys might not have seen. Pretty useful I do say.

 

[topop101]

The stand is cool. I am getting a brake drum from my buddy who owns a large trucking company to bolt it to. Chances are good that this will be a keeper for me. I've already had a number of GJ members reach out to me about it, but this one isn't lined up for resale. It is a very lightly made vise and it isn't designed for heavy work. Upon inspection today I was surprised how lightly it was made. The jaws are VERY tall for their width. The head doesn't rotate 360 degrees because the jaws hit the base, but they still rotate enough.

I made the mistake of selling a 6" Post Leg vise a month ago unrestored in order to gain some capital for my purchases. The buyer reached out to me today all excited because it turns out the 6" vise I sold was made by Peter Wright. It was there under all the rust and dirt. Man was I pissed. If I knew it was a Peter Wright Post Leg Vise I would NEVER have sold it.

From the buyer:

"I hope you are well. When I left your shop you had asked me to send a picture of what the vise looked like after I got it mounted and cleaned up. I took the surface layer of grime off, but did not want to remove everything down to clear metal. In doing this I discovered that it was a Peter Wright vise. From What I can find out on different forums, this can date back to 1863, when the solid box thread was patented by Peter Wright. I am enclosing a few pics of the vise holding my felling saw and a detail of the inscription.
If you can read it,is says:
P. WRIGHT

PATENT

SOLID BOX"

All I can say is I **** (and not the good way).

Oh I included a chart that you guys might not have seen. Pretty useful I do say.

I wish I could have seen a pic. of this post vise before you sold it... If you posted it I missed it. I could have told you from the design it was a PW. There's a FB page just for leg vise's . You should check it out!

 

[joe.striper]

I wish I could have seen a pic. of this post vise before you sold it... If you posted it I missed it. I could have told you from the design it was a PW. There's a FB page just for leg vise's . You should check it out!

I will check it out. Thanks. I only post about 1/2 of what I find here. I think I post way too much on here as it is. If it isn't cool, rare or unique I dont put it up. That 6" leg vise didnt make the cut. Now Im pissed

 

[dansem]

Joe Striper: Your vise's swivel mechanism looks like the Mortimer G. Lewis' US Patent #514,012 issued February 6. 1894. Lewis Tool Company had an office on Barclay Street in Manhattan, later on Railroad Avenue in Bridgeport, CT. I think their early manufacturing was in upstate NY -IIRC Lowville in Lewis County near the Adirondacks . Sometime before 1922, Lewis's patents and perhaps the whole operation were acquired by Prentiss. Lewis made some neat double steel slide bar vises with adjustable static jaw and swivel base.

 

[dutchgray]

CW
Nice ball vice group.
I still need to find one of those.

 

[va.grouseman]

Someone just pulled the trigger on a Wards Wilton on EBay.---Nice one to.---Only the third one I've ever seen.---They didn't like my offer.---They chose wisely.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/231952417066?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[CwazyWabbit]

CW
Nice ball vice group.
I still need to find one of those.

I can't make up my mind which to keep, they are all slightly different.

The blue one needs new jaws, rebuilding of the metal around the screw holes, and I need to remove the lash up that the previous owner replaced the spindle backlash spring with.... Not to mention the paint job :-/

The unpainted one needs new jaws and filling of some over enthusiastic drilling from when the jaw screws were re-tapped. The handle did have one end missing and some ugly welds on it but I've sorted those.

Each one has different ends on the handles and the blue one states a size as part of the writing on the side.

 

[va.grouseman]

Well thanks to a kindly GJ Member who gave me a heads-up, I've now got me half a set of Equalizer Jaws.---Now if Outlaw will just get through lovin his half, I'll complete my set.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

How do they actually work?

 

[va.grouseman]

They conform to the shape of the piece to be squeezed.

 

[jreb10]

My Craftsman 05198 Jaw Support

As I was slowly cleaning up the 5198 I found some cracks in the dynamic jaw support. I don't quite know what to make of them.




As I took a closer look at them it seems like they are covered/filled in with paint/primer, especially the one on the right side.



Perhaps some of you can offer your opinions on how serious this is. On the one hand I am of course disappointed to see the cracks. On the other hand, if they have been present from the day the vise left the factory, it may not be so bad.

I am beginning to think that this jaw support area may have been a weak point for this design as I recall seeing other 519X vises with problems there. Perhaps it is susceptible to cracks during the casting process or subsequent cooling.

Any opinions are appreciated.

 

[McBrownie]

My Craftsman 05198 Jaw Support

As I was slowly cleaning up the 5198 I found some cracks in the dynamic jaw support. I don't quite know what to make of them.

As I took a closer look at them it seems like they are covered/filled in with paint/primer, especially the one on the right side.

Perhaps some of you can offer your opinions on how serious this is. On the one hand I am of course disappointed to see the cracks. On the other hand, if they have been present from the day the vise left the factory, it may not be so bad.

I am beginning to think that this jaw support area may have been a weak point for this design as I recall seeing other 519X vises with problems there. Perhaps it is susceptible to cracks during the casting process or subsequent cooling.

Any opinions are appreciated.

Completely different vise, but my Parker 203 had a crack in the same area. It was also worn and possibly bent out of flat.

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I ended up shiming it with a brass wear "plate" and have used it without any issues for the past few years. I have hammered on it, but no sledge hammers.

 

[Outlawmws]

Well thanks to a kindly GJ Member who gave me a heads-up, I've now got me half a set of Equalizer Jaws.---Now if Outlaw will just get through lovin his half, I'll complete my set.

My half of a what? Say that little jigger is pretty cool! I've never seen one O' dem before? Wanna sell it?








hmmm, what goes in the threaded hole?

 

[Hemi49]

My Craftsman 05198 Jaw Support

As I was slowly cleaning up the 5198 I found some cracks in the dynamic jaw support. I don't quite know what to make of them.




As I took a closer look at them it seems like they are covered/filled in with paint/primer, especially the one on the right side.



Perhaps some of you can offer your opinions on how serious this is. On the one hand I am of course disappointed to see the cracks. On the other hand, if they have been present from the day the vise left the factory, it may not be so bad.

I am beginning to think that this jaw support area may have been a weak point for this design as I recall seeing other 519X vises with problems there. Perhaps it is susceptible to cracks during the casting process or subsequent cooling.

Any opinions are appreciated.

The cracks can be fixed but you'll end up with a bastardized vise..... If it were mine I'd leave it alone and put it on a shelf..... It's too rare a vise to be modified.....
Hemi

 

[G-ManBart]

Okay experts, help me out here. This popped up about 5min from my house, and they're asking $60 (I've sent them a note already). It's gotta be a Parker, and I just found an older listing from Ebay....but the jaws are totally wrong. Think it can be saved?

 

[joe.striper]

My Craftsman 05198 Jaw Support

As I was slowly cleaning up the 5198 I found some cracks in the dynamic jaw support. I don't quite know what to make of them.




As I took a closer look at them it seems like they are covered/filled in with paint/primer, especially the one on the right side.



Perhaps some of you can offer your opinions on how serious this is. On the one hand I am of course disappointed to see the cracks. On the other hand, if they have been present from the day the vise left the factory, it may not be so bad.

I am beginning to think that this jaw support area may have been a weak point for this design as I recall seeing other 519X vises with problems there. Perhaps it is susceptible to cracks during the casting process or subsequent cooling.

Any opinions are appreciated.

On my 5196 which is currently on Ebay, I photographed my jaw supports naked because this is such a common issue on these vises.

I cannot yell you what to do here, but personally, I'd repair it. If you sell it you need to disclose the repair. I am sure the board will be split on this. I would NOT use it as is. Just my honest opinion.

 

[meatsis]

Well thanks to a kindly GJ Member who gave me a heads-up, I've now got me half a set of Equalizer Jaws.---Now if Outlaw will just get through lovin his half, I'll complete my set.

Thanks VA. You reminded me that I have a set of these also. I bought them off ebay a few years ago for $20. They got buried in the top drawer of my tool box and I forgot all about them.
They really are pretty neat and they actually work very well.

How wide are yours? I noticed yours has 5 movable pieces and mine only have 4. Mine are 4 inches wide btw.

 

[va.grouseman]

Outlawmws[/B];3576656]OK, a really cool vise accessory! This thing adjusts to odd shapes, the set screw on the end allows the mini jaws to adjust in and out...

markings say:

Pat Aug 3 - 1915, Pat. Jan 25 -1916

Universal Equalizer Co.

Cin,O,USA

Makers Trade Mark (An Arm/Fist holding a bar)

And it works great, my son's response was "So they had a solution for irregular objects in a vise for nearly a century???"

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I just assumed this one was yours Outlaw---That's what assuming gets you.

 

[va.grouseman]

Meatsis, mine is 5'' wide, but missing the knurled finger screw on the side.

 

[pughde]

I need some help, this is my first post. I have reviewed the vise help section and now have names for most of my issues. First my vise has no numbers or identifying marks. It is a 6” vise which is heavy 40lbs plus but appears to be cheaply made. My leadscrew is 7/8 in diameter is missing a spring, washer, roll ping ¼” and a sliding handle. This vise will be used for holding welding parts so precision is not needed or expected. Any suggestions on where I can get these parts. The spring and washer needs to fit into a 24mm area. I am including pictures, any suggestions would be appreciated.

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[pughde]

Oops looks like I lost the pictures. Not sure what went wrong.

 

[va.grouseman]

Here is a picture of EDGAR's Equalizers as they fit on a vise.---Also B100's Equalizers.

You can find 8 posts associated with the Equalizers on page 593.

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[pughde]

Found the problem sorry I should have used a new message not a quick reply.

 

[pughde]

Hopefully this will work.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OaP4TgU4-eihByg-dq0HQHqqQY4NGFHvuQ
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VZ3dmtwgXls2hCHpck7pv0BQTl6yJ9mQmQ
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[Outlawmws]

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I just assumed this one was yours Outlaw---That's what assuming gets you.

OH; THAT thing!

 

[Outlawmws]

VA, did you notice we both have the SAME SIDE? so we are both looking for the mirror image side...

 

[rusty65]

I bought this one off eBay with local pick up for 75 bucks. I wasn't going to post up pictures but I found a date stamp so I figured it might add something to the time line. It was made according to the stamp June of 1968 and was probably inspected by inspector no 5. And the vise has the screw retainer (set screw) on the handle and parker style pinned on jaws. All I did was oil this one up and plan to keep the patina as it's not rusty.





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[PghJKB]

Isn't this just grand??

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/hvo/5600953083.html


JKB

 

[G-ManBart]

Isn't this just grand??

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/hvo/5600953083.html


JKB

Wow! Hey, it's only $3.33/Lb

 

[joe.striper]

I bought this one off eBay with local pick up for 75 bucks. I wasn't going to post up pictures but I found a date stamp so I figured it might add something to the time line. It was made according to the stamp July of 1968 and was probably inspected by inspector no 5. And the vise has the screw retainer (set screw) on the handle and parker style pinned on jaws. All I did was oil this one up and plan to keep the patina as it's not rusty.





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That is a Parker Union vise, made late in Parker's existence. Wire wheel the side if the static jaw and you will see the name cast into it. A good vise, not very **** but a real workhorse.

 

[joe.striper]

Can anyone help me ID this Craftsman vise? 4.5" jaws. Maybe made in the 60s?

 

[jreb10]

Can anyone help me ID this Craftsman vise? 4.5" jaws. Maybe made in the 60s?

Columbian-made 5184L, 48 lbs shipping weight, $42.95 in 1960.

Also has the swivel base kit, 7 lbs 14 oz, $7.69 in 1960.

My neighbor has one.

 

[va.grouseman]

Previously posted by Outlawmws.

VA, did you notice we both have the SAME SIDE? so we are both looking for the mirror image side...
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I hadn't paid any attention Outlaw.---You are correct sir.---That does complicate things.

 

[scooternut]

Isn't this just grand??

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/hvo/5600953083.html


JKB

Judging by it being on a trailer, I'm going to assume that they just got lucky and picked it cheap or free somewhere. Cant help but want it though, especially given how much I like my 106. But holy vise, where the heck would I put it? I do not currently have the shop for it.

 

[econotrk]

Isn't this just grand??

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/hvo/5600953083.html


JKB

I'd love to know the story behind him getting it, where and how much.