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Top: that's a pretty cool looking vise. do you like how it works or have you tried it yet?

Craptain: sort of the less expensive type of power arm on your new little vise. it does have a pretty cool look and not surprised it followed you home.

VA: I always like seeing what you put on your picnic table. maybe you should dump a can of BLO on it just because its going to disappear like Balane's stump has. speaking of Balane's stump I hope it hasn't disappeared forever.

Balane: any stump worthy tools to post while you are posting letting us know you are still kicking? I know the vises are not easily found around now, but your skills could certainly help others here or on the 101 thread if you have time.

OLDIE: you ok? there have been a few 5198 vises mentioned and not a peep. hope all is well in your world.

hope you all are having a great weekend.
 
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Yep, I still function...

Albeit slower, and less often than I used to...

Thanks for asking...

This week, my ancient flesh is getting some Basal Cell Skin Cancer removed...

Ah, the long summer days playing baseball, in my youth...

There haven't been any 5198's pop up down here on the "Redneck Riviera", but I'm still looking...

I haven't perused the "Vises Thread", but a Chrome Wilton!!!

A Chrome Wilton deserves to be seen, again...(Originally posted by "Ign", on a stand alone thread...)
 

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Previously posted by Craptain.

My vise of the day is a 3 3/4" Power Kraft quick release. I have never seen one before and had to have it. $10 and I got to unbolt it from the bench.

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Craptain, pretty sure your Montgomery Ward Quick Release was made by the Milwaukee Machine & Tool Co..

There is another quick release Monkey Wards like yours on page 1269.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/Garage/IMG_3244_zpsubwo0jtn.jpg

Here is a Milwaukee Machine & Tool like yours, minus the quick release lever, on page 24---See what you think.---They also made little companion anvils, page 1272.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=63969&d=1273676450

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Hi all,

Been lurking for years, but recently found this vise that I felt needed to be shared.

This was my grandfather's vise, and when we were cleaning his house I saw the vise and immediately asked if I could have it. Being the first vise I've owned, I quickly mounted on my bench and put it to use. Last month I moved to a new house and noticed something interesting. Any information on it would be great! Also, should I restore or clean up and leave as is?

"Made at Lower Merion High School"
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Stamped note by my grandfather
BOB LOUGHIN
20 THOMAS AVENUE
BRYN MAWR PENNSYLVANIA

B.M. ??

STARTED IN APRIL 29 1948
FINISHED IN MAY 19 1948

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

LOWER MERION TECHNICAL SCHOOL

MY ASSISTANT WAS ED(?) SHANNON JR
60 GARRET AVENUE
GARRET HILL PENNSYLVANIA

B.M. 2592

THE END"
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Nomex-so so awesome! Localish to me! Killer! I can hardly believe it.


1 big Vote to leave the history as is, and add your history(use) to it. You'll never get that patina and history back! Clean up, lube up, use it...and don't beat on it, and don't ever give it up! But that my sentimental side talking...
 
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NOMEX: What a terrific find! Certainly gently clean it and lubricate it. But DO NOT beat on it. How often does a person know precisely who made a vise and when it was made? Given that your grandfather apparently made this vise in school in less than a month, I think that it was most likely that it was a sort of kit for which the students had to do a certain amount of machining. The school's name being cast into the body of the vise is intriguing. Did Grandpa actually cast it? That would be some project! Also, I wonder if Ed Shannon's telephone number was BM 2592. What a family treasure you have there!
 
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CRSINMICH said:
NOMEX: What a terrific find! Certainly gently clean it and lubricate it. But DO NOT beat on it. How often does a person know precisely who made a vise and when it was made? Given that your grandfather apparently made this vise in school in less than a month, I think that it was most likely that it was a sort of kit for which the students had to do a certain amount of machining. The school's name being cast into the body of the vise is intriguing. Did Grandpa actually cast it? That would be some project! Also, I wonder if Ed Shannon's telephone number was BM 2592. What a family treasure you have there!
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I was wondering what BM meant, as it was stamped in two places. I guess BM would be some mnemonic area code for Bryn Mawr? Thanks for the information!
 
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Nomex said:
I was wondering what BM meant, as it was stamped in two places. I guess BM would be some mnemonic area code for Bryn Mawr? Thanks for the information!
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Nomex: That's right. BM would have been the exchange and 2592 the number. A person would have said, "My phone number is Bryn Mawr 2592. 1948 would have been about the time that most places in the US would have been adding a 5th number. Soon after that exchanges would have been dropped and you just gave the 7 numbers. I was only guessing about that being his telephone number. If it is, then your grandfather forgot to add his numbers when he was stamping.
 
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Nomex said:
Hi all,



Been lurking for years, but recently found this vise that I felt needed to be shared.



This was my grandfather's vise, and when we were cleaning his house I saw the vise and immediately asked if I could have it. Being the first vise I've owned, I quickly mounted on my bench and put it to use. Last month I moved to a new house and noticed something interesting. Any information on it would be great! Also, should I restore or clean up and leave as is?



That is truly amazing. What a treasure to keep in the family!


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Nomex: welcome to the forum and happy you finally posted something to talk about. Something it surely is. not only a grand dad's vise, but one he actually had a hand in making too. WELL DONE in saving it or calling DIBS FIRST.

nice bit of history stamped on the bottom so like others have said use and don't abuse and maybe just clean and grease it every year or two. for the little bump out on the base did you chisel out some of your bench so it sits flat? or did you do like others here have done and get another piece of wood to mount under it on top of your bench so the bench won't be damaged. since that vise is definitely a KEEPER i'd go ahead and notch my bench.

Oldie: nice to see you are still checking in on us. also thanks for sharing more Vise ****. best of luck with the skin cancer removal and I need to go get a few moles and spots checked myself from all those years on the golf courses without sun screen.
 
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Here are a couple pictures of the Parker 273 all cleaned up and ready to go back to work. Couple 'before' pics as well.
I wire wheeled the accumulated crud and paint splatters off and painted most of it (same colour as my other Vises). But I left the handle, jaws and a few other bits with the old patina and just rubbed with boiled linseed oil. Only thing I had to make was the little handle for the base swivel lock nut.
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va.grouseman said:
Previously posted by Craptain.

My vise of the day is a 3 3/4" Power Kraft quick release. I have never seen one before and had to have it. $10 and I got to unbolt it from the bench.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160528/e57ef74e8b23d0d04caa0a571bf06ea5.jpg
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Craptain, pretty sure your Montgomery Ward Quick Release was made by the Milwaukee Machine & Tool Co..

There is another quick release Monkey Wards like yours on page 1269.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/Garage/IMG_3244_zpsubwo0jtn.jpg

Here is a Milwaukee Machine & Tool like yours, minus the quick release lever, on page 24---See what you think.---They also made little companion anvils, page 1272.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=63969&d=1273676450

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/Garage/IMG_3186_zps6jql9kmk.jpg
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Thanks VA. That is good info right there. I am certain it had to be made by Milwaukee.
I may not choose the color scheme That Kiwi used though. Not even sure it will be painted, I will have to see how it cleans up first.
 
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drivesitfar said:
Nomex: welcome to the forum and happy you finally posted something to talk about. Something it surely is. not only a grand dad's vise, but one he actually had a hand in making too. WELL DONE in saving it or calling DIBS FIRST.

nice bit of history stamped on the bottom so like others have said use and don't abuse and maybe just clean and grease it every year or two. for the little bump out on the base did you chisel out some of your bench so it sits flat? or did you do like others here have done and get another piece of wood to mount under it on top of your bench so the bench won't be damaged. since that vise is definitely a KEEPER i'd go ahead and notch my bench.
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Thanks for the welcome! I am curious about the base and what that "bump" is called and used for. Not sure if "vise base bump" would yield good Google results. :D

As far as mounting:
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WOW Cool family history there. Just clean it up and don't abuse it. I wish I had something like that.
John
 
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drivesitfar said:
Top: that's a pretty cool looking vise. do you like how it works or have you tried it yet?

Drives I wish it was mine. A friend on FB wanted info on it . I knew some one here would know something about it. CW did a brilliant job helping me out with outstanding research!
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Nomex said:
Hi all,

Been lurking for years, but recently found this vise that I felt needed to be shared.

This was my grandfather's vise, and when we were cleaning his house I saw the vise and immediately asked if I could have it. Being the first vise I've owned, I quickly mounted on my bench and put it to use. Last month I moved to a new house and noticed something interesting. Any information on it would be great! Also, should I restore or clean up and leave as is?

"Made at Lower Merion High School"
wc8TEK.jpg



Stamped note by my grandfather

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Nomex You might consider adding a note for some one you may leave the vise to next!
 
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oldldh said:
Yep, I still function...

Albeit slower, and less often than I used to...

Thanks for asking...

This week, my ancient flesh is getting some Basal Cell Skin Cancer removed...

Ah, the long summer days playing baseball, in my youth...

There haven't been any 5198's pop up down here on the "Redneck Riviera", but I'm still looking...

I haven't perused the "Vises Thread", but a Chrome Wilton!!!

A Chrome Wilton deserves to be seen, again...(Originally posted by "Ign", on a stand alone thread...)
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Oldie,

Glad to hear you are staying on top of health issues. Ounce of prevention, pound of cure kind of stuff. A 5198 awaits you! They are not as rare as we once thought. :D
 
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oldldh said:
Yep, I still function...

Albeit slower, and less often than I used to...

Thanks for asking...

This week, my ancient flesh is getting some Basal Cell Skin Cancer removed...

Ah, the long summer days playing baseball, in my youth...

There haven't been any 5198's pop up down here on the "Redneck Riviera", but I'm still looking...

I haven't perused the "Vises Thread", but a Chrome Wilton!!!

A Chrome Wilton deserves to be seen, again...(Originally posted by "Ign", on a stand alone thread...)
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I wish you the best, good men carry on... And you are one! Take care Sir!:thumbup:
 
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oldldh, you've weathered a lot in life, and this is just more to weather; I have faith you will persevere!

Best wishes! And hope you stumble (without falling! ;) ) on a 5198 soon!
 
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Neat old 2" Phoenix next to the 1.5"

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Was at a yard sale at a church parking lot and one of the vendors asked if I'd missed the vise for sale.

Told him I did and he pointed me in right direction and it was a Sheldon quick clamp woodworking vise.

Already had one, but this one was a bit more complete than my other one.

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Also picked up at another yard sale a Defiance #1207 by Stanley Clamp on Vise w/1-5/8" jaws

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mike_paxton said:
Was at a yard sale at a church parking lot and one of the vendors asked if I'd missed the vise for sale.

Told him I did and he pointed me in right direction and it was a Sheldon quick clamp woodworking vise.

Already had one, but this one was a bit more complete than my other one.

Pics 1-5

Also picked up at another yard sale a Defiance #1207 by Stanley Clamp on Vise w/1-5/8" jaws

Pics 6-7

Mike
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Great find!
The Sheldon vise is very precise.
The Stanley vise is a great second vise. I used to use mine to clamp on a scissor lift rail and jeweller's vise.
 
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Anyone care to take a stab at a vintage vise brand "pecking order?" In other words, what are the highest quality brands? Curious to hear where y'all rank vises like Wilton (USA), Record, Rock Island, Morgan, Chas Parker, etc.

Thanks!

Scott
 
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Bullet, that is totally personal preference; many are extremely good. I don't think any pecking order is going to be more than "personal preference"

I like Parker a lot. Except for one, I've sold all the Wilton's I've gotten, but Wilton are very good also. Reed is top drawer. The Craftsman 519x is top quality. Many of the American Scale are extremely good. Prentiss, Athol/Starrett, Colombian (that last, often underrated, but were completely popular "back in the day" (which is why there are so many of them), etc, and then you get into the English made vises (or Vices...) - Record, Woden, Paramo...

Many others I haven't even mentioned...
 
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