My small but growing DBE wrench collection
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twertsy
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Some from today......Bottom to top.....Proto LA, Wizard, Plomb, Wilde, CV x2, Bonney brake wrench, Dunlap, Fairmount, True-Fit, Lectrolite, and a round shank Wright which is a first for me.
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Excellent examples, Twerts! I like the Wright obstruction wench, too.Some from today......Bottom to top.....Proto LA, Wizard, Plomb, Wilde, CV x2, Bonney brake wrench, Dunlap, Fairmount, True-Fit, Lectrolite, and a round shank Wright which is a first for me.
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twertsy
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Obstruction/starter/manifold wrench is Wilde. The Wright is single offset like the ones Bonney made but round shank.
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Outlawmws
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That doesn't look clean like the factory grindoffs I've seen......Not even any competing with all of BB's additions, but two more were added today - A Tru Fit, and what I thought would be a Plvmb Lawsuit grind wrench, but tuned out to be a Proto still showing under the grind a bit?I wonder of it just got looped in with the Plvmbs or what?:
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So, not a dbe (the 1927 version was), but kind of cool anyway. Snap-on #2513 Buick cylinder head stud bolt wrench from the late 1920s / early 1930s. (Really WAS for "your grandfather's Buick!")
Update: scraped off the rust and found the date code stamp: 1928. So this is the first year they made it with one end open. Posted more detailed photos on Snap-on thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5828981&postcount=347
Update: scraped off the rust and found the date code stamp: 1928. So this is the first year they made it with one end open. Posted more detailed photos on Snap-on thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5828981&postcount=347
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Outlawmws
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I have a 4 inch adjustable on mine.
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I keep a 4" '56 Crescent with a 3/4" disc magnet and my nail clippers piggy-backed onto the magnet, loose in my left pocket (along with a single AAA LED flashlight). I don't like all that clutter on my keys; the keys are a big enough wad without adding to it...
My find from today. Probably would have only got the craftsman and the pebble if it wasn't for this thread, but the most I paid was a dollar, some were cheaper. Check out he super quality indestro and the 6point sk wayne. Edit...the snap on was 4 bucks and I believe the silver spray painted one is an underline craftsman. Paint is heavy on the one side but the other side says vanadium
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BlueBomber
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A cool haul and I'm glad to see the DBE fever is spreading!
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Technically a combo wrench, I guess, but I'd have grabbed it too!
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BlueBomber
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These wrenches came in this weekend.
Kinda grungy in the pics, but they cleaned up a bit with a wire brush. Some duplicates, but I'll keep them for trading or maybe bundling and selling some lots on the 'Bay.
Lectrolite 3004 deep offset, 3/4" x 25/32"
Lectrolite 3006 deep offset, 15/16" x 1"
Lectrolite offset, 11/16" x 5/8"
Westline H2248 deep offset, 13/16" x 7/8"
Westline deep offset stubby, 1/2" x 9/16"
Penncraft angled stubby, 9/16" x 1/2"--first!
Penncraft 3566 offset raised panel, 13/16" x 7/8"
Plomb angled stubby, 7/16" x 3/8"
Kinda grungy in the pics, but they cleaned up a bit with a wire brush. Some duplicates, but I'll keep them for trading or maybe bundling and selling some lots on the 'Bay.
Lectrolite 3004 deep offset, 3/4" x 25/32"
Lectrolite 3006 deep offset, 15/16" x 1"
Lectrolite offset, 11/16" x 5/8"
Westline H2248 deep offset, 13/16" x 7/8"
Westline deep offset stubby, 1/2" x 9/16"
Penncraft angled stubby, 9/16" x 1/2"--first!
Penncraft 3566 offset raised panel, 13/16" x 7/8"
Plomb angled stubby, 7/16" x 3/8"
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BlueBomber
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Thanks, d42. PM on the way.
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BlueBomber
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Here's a good illustration of the production variety over the years of the Lectrolite 300x deep offset wrench line.
I really like the hex handled wrenches the most. They seem a little less refined and thus older. Here's how I think they together by production run:
I really like the hex handled wrenches the most. They seem a little less refined and thus older. Here's how I think they together by production run:
Outlawmws
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BB, do you think that is all the Tru Fit variants?
Mine all seem to be 500X series...
Mine all seem to be 500X series...
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BlueBomber
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IDK, Outlaw. There seem to be raised panel versions on AA in the 300x series, but the web site is silent on 500x series. Are your's deep offset 12-point as well?
twertsy
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I haven't even come close to posting them all yet but I have a few up including a very interesting 4000 series and 1 with no model number which I believe would be either MTF made (before Lectrolite in '32) or very early Lectrolite.
http://toolarchives.com/search/node/true-fit
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BlueBomber
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I like filling out sets, like the Tru-Fit Lectrolite above because you get to see the variety over the years of production. However, I still like to find new brands for the collection.
Here's a deep offset from the BOG Manufacturing Co, stamped 1820, which fits it's size of 9/16" x 5/8". The wrench box end is very rounded but the offset has a unique flat machined into one side. It feels sturdy--I like it!
Here's a deep offset from the BOG Manufacturing Co, stamped 1820, which fits it's size of 9/16" x 5/8". The wrench box end is very rounded but the offset has a unique flat machined into one side. It feels sturdy--I like it!
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BlueBomber
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Hmmm, seems Alloy Artifacts places this as a wrench from the 1920s-1930s. If correctly dated, it is in amazing condition.I like filling out sets, like the Tru-Fit Lectrolite above because you get to see the variety over the years of production. However, I still like to find new brands for the collection.
Here's a deep offset from the BOG Manufacturing Co, stamped 1820, which fits it's size of 9/16" x 5/8". The wrench box end is very rounded but the offset has a unique flat machined into one side. It feels sturdy--I like it!
Apparently BOG became Cragin under Plomb, and had linkage to the Pennens brands as well. Fascinating! I only have one other BOG tool, a socket. I'll have to go dig it out and look closer--it might be a 7/16" drive.
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twertsy
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Lots of info in that article, Twertsy - it's a bit overwhelming.
Why did I think Plomb was named after a "Mr Plomb"?!?
Also, when/where did Pendleton tools begin? Were they a separate company that purchased Proto, et al, or was that company created like Penens/Fleet by Plomb?
BB - Nice Bog. I recently acquired a Bog socket set in original box - that was unfortunately cut open at the end to allow a ratchet from another manufacturer to fit in the box. They are the first and only Bog tools I have ever acquired.
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twertsy
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Ok guys, here are my different versions of Tru-Fit and/or Lectrolite.
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1. Oval/round shank, probable plain steel finish, no raised or depressed panels, markings are stamped; Front stamps: "D 2628 Tru-Fit" Reverse Stamps: "13/16 Chrome Vanadium Steel 7/8" --- I believe this to be VERY early Lectrolite or possibly Milwaukee Tool & Forge
2. Hex Shank (6 sided), probable CAD type finish, Single depressed panels on each side in the center of the shank, markings are forged in panels; Front marks: "15/16 Tru-Fit 1" Reverse marks: "Made In Tru-Fit 3006 USA" --- This appears to be the most common design, at least in my collection.
3. More square shank although the corners are slightly shaved but much less pronounced than #2, chrome/nickel finish, Single depressed panels on each side in the center of the shank, markings are forged in panels; Front marks: "15/16 Tru-Fit 1" Reverse marks: "Made In Tru-Fit 3006 USA" --- Less common in my examples, much larger forged in marks than #2
4. Hex Shank (6 sided), unsure of finish, single depressed panel on one side only - opposite side is flat, markings are forged in panel; Front marks: "3/4 LECTROLITE CORP. DEFIANCE O 25/32" --- I believe this to be the earliest ('32-34) Lectrolite wrenches
5. Hex Shank (6 sided), probable chrome/nickel type finish, Single depressed panels on each side in the center of the shank, markings are forged in panels; Front marks: "3/8 LECTROLITE CORP. DEFIANCE O 7/16" Reverse marks: "C CHROME VANADIUM STEEL 3001" --- I believe this is the predecessor to style #2 and followed style #4
6. Square shank with all edges rounded off, probable chrome finish, Single depressed panels on each side in the center of the shank, markings are forged in panels; Front stamps include a forged in date code in the left edge of the depressed panel which appears to be a B or 3 over "5-9," then "Forged Tru-Fit USA" Reverse marks: "5/8 LECTROLITE 11/16" --- unsure where this falls
7. Hex shank (6 sided), appears to be plain steel finish (well worn wrench), single raised panels in the center of the shank on both sides with stamped markings, and forged marks outside the raised panel on each side; Front marks: "MADE IN" (forged outside panel) "LECTROLITE" (stamped inside panel) "U.S.A." (forged outside other end of panel) Reverse marks: "3/4" (forged outside panel) "TRU-FIT 3004" (stamped in raised panel) "25/32" (forged outside other end of panel). --- there appears to be a "3" stamped in both sides, in the panel. Unknown if this is perhaps a date code or owner's marks. Unknown where this falls in production timeline.
8. Square shank with edges rounded off, probable chrome finish, 2 depressed and 1 raised panel on each side; Front marks: first depressed panel "1/2" (forged), center raised panel "4002 Tru-Fit" (stamped), 2nd depressed panel "9/16" (forged) Reverse marks: first depressed panel "MADE IN" (forged), center raised panel "LECTROLITE" (stamped), 2nd depressed panel "U. S. A." (forged) --- probably the rarest variant as this is the only one I've seen. Unknown position in timeline.
9. Square shank with edges rounded off, probable chrome/nickel finish, single depressed panel on each side with forged markings; Front marks: "7/8 FORGED STEEL 13/16" Reverse marks: "E MADE TRU-FIT IN U.S.A." --- the "E" on the reverse is forged parallel to the shank. Probably fits somewhere near #3 in the timeline.
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1. Oval/round shank, probable plain steel finish, no raised or depressed panels, markings are stamped; Front stamps: "D 2628 Tru-Fit" Reverse Stamps: "13/16 Chrome Vanadium Steel 7/8" --- I believe this to be VERY early Lectrolite or possibly Milwaukee Tool & Forge
2. Hex Shank (6 sided), probable CAD type finish, Single depressed panels on each side in the center of the shank, markings are forged in panels; Front marks: "15/16 Tru-Fit 1" Reverse marks: "Made In Tru-Fit 3006 USA" --- This appears to be the most common design, at least in my collection.
3. More square shank although the corners are slightly shaved but much less pronounced than #2, chrome/nickel finish, Single depressed panels on each side in the center of the shank, markings are forged in panels; Front marks: "15/16 Tru-Fit 1" Reverse marks: "Made In Tru-Fit 3006 USA" --- Less common in my examples, much larger forged in marks than #2
4. Hex Shank (6 sided), unsure of finish, single depressed panel on one side only - opposite side is flat, markings are forged in panel; Front marks: "3/4 LECTROLITE CORP. DEFIANCE O 25/32" --- I believe this to be the earliest ('32-34) Lectrolite wrenches
5. Hex Shank (6 sided), probable chrome/nickel type finish, Single depressed panels on each side in the center of the shank, markings are forged in panels; Front marks: "3/8 LECTROLITE CORP. DEFIANCE O 7/16" Reverse marks: "C CHROME VANADIUM STEEL 3001" --- I believe this is the predecessor to style #2 and followed style #4
6. Square shank with all edges rounded off, probable chrome finish, Single depressed panels on each side in the center of the shank, markings are forged in panels; Front stamps include a forged in date code in the left edge of the depressed panel which appears to be a B or 3 over "5-9," then "Forged Tru-Fit USA" Reverse marks: "5/8 LECTROLITE 11/16" --- unsure where this falls
7. Hex shank (6 sided), appears to be plain steel finish (well worn wrench), single raised panels in the center of the shank on both sides with stamped markings, and forged marks outside the raised panel on each side; Front marks: "MADE IN" (forged outside panel) "LECTROLITE" (stamped inside panel) "U.S.A." (forged outside other end of panel) Reverse marks: "3/4" (forged outside panel) "TRU-FIT 3004" (stamped in raised panel) "25/32" (forged outside other end of panel). --- there appears to be a "3" stamped in both sides, in the panel. Unknown if this is perhaps a date code or owner's marks. Unknown where this falls in production timeline.
8. Square shank with edges rounded off, probable chrome finish, 2 depressed and 1 raised panel on each side; Front marks: first depressed panel "1/2" (forged), center raised panel "4002 Tru-Fit" (stamped), 2nd depressed panel "9/16" (forged) Reverse marks: first depressed panel "MADE IN" (forged), center raised panel "LECTROLITE" (stamped), 2nd depressed panel "U. S. A." (forged) --- probably the rarest variant as this is the only one I've seen. Unknown position in timeline.
9. Square shank with edges rounded off, probable chrome/nickel finish, single depressed panel on each side with forged markings; Front marks: "7/8 FORGED STEEL 13/16" Reverse marks: "E MADE TRU-FIT IN U.S.A." --- the "E" on the reverse is forged parallel to the shank. Probably fits somewhere near #3 in the timeline.
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twertsy
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It was originally named Plomb after Alphonse Plomb. The Pendleton family took over ownership / management around '16 or '17 and in '57 the stockholders voted to rename Plomb Tool Co. to Pendleton Tool Industries.
twertsy
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Bottom line "synopsis" of Bog/Cragin. They were owned by a Pepperdine in 1940, the brother of the Western Auto Pepperdine. I'm unsure of what Cragin did, if anything since I've never seen or heard of a Cragin marked tool. Bog is even referred to as a "subsidiary of Western Auto" in one newspaper article I found in the '30s. Bog tools are found throughout all early Western Auto catalogs. Plomb bought them in 1940 and ran the Penens / Fleet operation, which was a contract management company for Plomb founded to manage their huge Wright Field contract(s), out of the Bog plant on Menard. Plomb first created Fleet as the name of the contract management company in '42, then RENAMED it to Penens in '43. Then in '63, they renamed Penens back to Fleet.
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StillTooManyHobbies
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You all probably already know this, but page 25 of my 1964 SK catalog lists what appear to be Lectrolite wrenches in the back. The are labeled as "Carbon Wrench Sets" that were "drop-forged from fine-grain controlled steel and nickel-chrome plated" and were not available individually so it says. The number series include 800, 2000, 3100, 4000 and 5000 series. This might apply to the Tru-Fit and Lectrolite wrench numbers being discussed here.
twertsy
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S-K and Lectrolite "teamed up" during the 50s -60s and were both bought by Wayne in 63ish so that makes sense.
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Outlawmws
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They are, but they are shorties. I first got them because they were short. Nice to have at times...
Two 5001's 3/8 X 7/16 (but oddly, stamped 180 out of sync to each other (Not mis-stamped, the sizes map...), and one is clearly a smidgen beefier, at least in the "socket" - so different ere's at a guess?
The third is a 2002, a 1/2 X 9/16, is hot offset, but has (at a guess) a 15 degree tilt to the socket like a combo usually has.
The 3 I had quick access to without a major dig in and search:
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Outlawmws
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They are plenty strong and well made, but they don't have quite the finish you might get in higher end tools. On the other hand, they were made well before "polished" became a thing with tools...
I've never seen one broken. That's a good sign....
Ole Slewfoot
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These Round end beauties just showed up wrapped in protective HF flyers.
the small DOE I don't think was in the auction listing, and bears no discernible markings.
the small DOE I don't think was in the auction listing, and bears no discernible markings.
twertsy
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These Round end beauties just showed up wrapped in protective HF flyers.
the small DOE I don't think was in the auction listing, and bears no discernible markings.
Try as I might, I cannot read that top wrench..........details?
Ole Slewfoot
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I am about to rub it with some WD40, but I don't think im going to find any numbers or letters.
twertsy
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Besides the WF ratchets................I'm trying to remember where I've seen that little circle on the shank before.....
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BlueBomber
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Mmmmm, love those pebble-paneled Plombs (say that three times fast!).These Round end beauties just showed up wrapped in protective HF flyers.
the small DOE I don't think was in the auction listing, and bears no discernible markings.