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Water Pooling In Front Yard; Leak?

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Time to now start thinking about how to fix and repair the yard

I am thinking about having someone back drag it with a bobcat and then have dirt delivered and spread/level it all out myself, which is no big deal

Hydro-seed, seed, or sod.........who knows

Definitely needs to dry out for a few weeks, first
 
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Any truths that the previous homeowner had to disclose the black plastic water line being used for buried line?

I read a few sources online that indicate this........


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Lots of different PE pipes are black and used for different purposes. Just because it's black doesn't mean anything by itself.

What would the previous owner be disclosing D45? What if they had no idea what the supply line was made of?

Your repair is done, get on with other important things in life.
 

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Time to now start thinking about how to fix and repair the yard

I am thinking about having someone back drag it with a bobcat and then have dirt delivered and spread/level it all out myself, which is no big deal

Hydro-seed, seed, or sod.........who knows

Definitely needs to dry out for a few weeks, first

You won't be able to fix the lawn right away. What you have to do is backfill, and pile all of the excess on top of the trench. Then you will have to wait for a few rains to settle the dirt back down. If you attempt to fix it back to picture perfect right now, by next Spring, it will have dropped about a foot. Or if you do fix it now and reseed, then plan on adding some more fill again next year and reseeding that. That's the bad thing about trenching a lawn.

If you are up to it, you can always fill some, run a plate compactor on it, fill some more, compact, lather, rinse, repeat, until you get it within a foot or so from the top, then add some good topsoil. Really, the 'hoe operator should have backfilled it and tamped it down with his bucket. But it is what it is. At least you now have good water pressure and don't have to worry about a leak now. :thumbup:
 

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Any truths that the previous homeowner had to disclose the black plastic water line being used for buried line?
I read a few sources online that indicate this........


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I doubt it, because that is the norm that is used everywhere. Now if it was the case that there was a KNOWN PROBLEM with the type of plastic waterlines, and everyone in your neighborhood was having to replace theirs because of the known problem, then you might have some recourse. But the previous owners would have had to also know about it. If they were clueless, then you have no recourse.

Just look at it like it's one of those things that happen when owning a house. It could have been way worse. I know. I had a sewer go bad due to tree roots from my neighbors Silver Maple. I called the OOPS and had all of my utilities marked out. The guy came to dig when it was about 30F out, but the temps had been dropping all day. It was a gravel driveway, and due to freezing and thawing previously had driven the frost down. He had a hell of a time busting through things. Seeing that this was winter, and on a Saturday, and it was now down around "0"f the lines that were marked out were all wrong, and **** went south real fast. In digging out for the new sewer line, we hit the gas and water line both. Water backfilled the trench and collapsed it, we had to rush around and try to find something to halfass plug the gas line, had to hurry up and call the city to get someone there pronto to shut things off, no one knew where the main shutoff was for the water. Finally a neighbor 2 houses down came out and told the guy that worked for the water department where the shutoff was. It was in front of his house. Once we got that fixed and under control, we went back to digging. The sewer was supposed to be 5 1/2'-6' down at the street. It's now about -15f outside. We finally found the sewer at around 11-12' down at the street. We ended up getting finished about 11:00pm. We roped things off as the 'hoe operator was coming back in the morning to backfill everything. The next day, it warmed up rapidly with the sun out and was about 40f that day.

So just write it off as being a homeowner. You may still have a sewer go bad, or if you are on septic and leach bed, that could go bad and run into the thousands of $$$, then there will be a roof later on to be replaced. All big bucks. At least you have one major problem marked off the list for probably the rest of your lifetime.
 

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Just . . . . ONE QUESTION . . . . for you OP at this point ??

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. . . . . did the new water line . . . . go INSIDE a protective conduit ??

So that "next time" replacement will be super easy ???? . . . ;)
 
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Any truths that the previous homeowner had to disclose the black plastic water line being used for buried line?

I read a few sources online that indicate this........


IMG_20160803_195706925_HDR_zpsbwrenime.jpg

that doesn't look like potable water line to me, in ontario pvc potable line is usually blue in colour. normally type k copper line is used to come into the home as well
 

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You won't be able to fix the lawn right away. What you have to do is backfill, and pile all of the excess on top of the trench. Then you will have to wait for a few rains to settle the dirt back down. If you attempt to fix it back to picture perfect right now, by next Spring, it will have dropped about a foot. Or if you do fix it now and reseed, then plan on adding some more fill again next year and reseeding that. That's the bad thing about trenching a lawn.

If you are up to it, you can always fill some, run a plate compactor on it, fill some more, compact, lather, rinse, repeat, until you get it within a foot or so from the top, then add some good topsoil. Really, the 'hoe operator should have backfilled it and tamped it down with his bucket. But it is what it is. At least you now have good water pressure and don't have to worry about a leak now. :thumbup:

^^^^^ this
 

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that doesn't look like potable water line to me, in ontario pvc potable line is usually blue in colour. normally type k copper line is used to come into the home as well

As I said in previous posts, that is 100psi PE pipe the lightest available. As another poster pointed out commonly used for sprinkler systems, not for water mains. 160 psi pipe minimum for mains, not only that but it should have been 1" minimum not 3/4" for a single family home. Low buck builder special.
 
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