whould you accept these trusses??

[brouser01]

Years ago when I built a small house I noticed a "wave" while looking down the front of the house. I was told it wouldn't be noticed after the it is covered in plywood ("it will straighten it up"). Then hardie planks were installed and it was noticeable. I should have told the guy to pull them all off right then, because five years later it still drives me crazy & looks bad.

My suggestion, if you don't like it or it is not done right (it's your project you can determine that, not a contractor or the manufacturer) put the brakes on now. You are paying & it's your project, you are the boss. What you say goes.

 

[bczygan]

It's called "ROUGH" carpentry for a reason.

Inaccuracy by the foundation and basement guys are partially corrected by the rough framers.

Then further adjusted by the drywall hangers.

What remains is hidden by the finish carpenters.

Then all the lumber drys out and takes it's final form.

 

[justsam]

You paid full tilt for an in spec product and got an out of spec product, yet you are to just **** it up. By their own admission and industry standards they are sub par. Is that what you ordered and paid for?

Of course it can be adjusted covered up, shimmed and trimmed. Enough caulk, Bondoc, duct tape and it is all good.

You can also pay for Snap On and accept Harbor Freight.

 

[Morrison]

! REMEMBER THE CUSTOMER COMES FIRST AND IS ALWAYS RIGHT !!

This is completely false! The customer is right within reason.

 

[The mean fish]

I'm certainly not the average Garage Journal guy but I'm a firm believer in the 1 finger rule when it comes to shop building. If you can fill in the gap with an entire can of Great Stuff insulation using only 1 finger to pull the trigger just leave it alone.

 

[monomach]

if your not happy NOW ! you will never be happy !! get the bad ones ripped out and hauled back to manufacturer ! make them do some new correct ones !! sure it will screw up there manufacture build dates ? BUT WHO CARES ? you will be happy ? RIGHT ???? good luck and let us know !! REMEMBER THE CUSTOMER COMES FIRST AND IS ALWAYS RIGHT !!

"The customer is always right" is a laughable statement. The customer is very often an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.

 

[GYPSY400]

5/8" in a 10ft span is pretty good considering today's lumber.. Like others have said, once it's covered, most likely will not be noticeable.

Btw, what is the spacing on those trusses?? They look close! Mine are at 24"oc and I'm in Canada.


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[BDT/NWMN]

At this point, I would sister the bowed sections, and plane off any raised sections..

 

[jetnow1]

"It's not a piano" was popular phrase on our framing jobs.

Your interior walls are FAR from flat but nobody ever notices.

In my area it was you can't see it from my house....

 

[StingRay]

"It's not a piano" was popular phrase on our framing jobs.



Your interior walls are FAR from flat but nobody ever notices.

Except maybe the drywaller, the taper, the cabinet installer, the guy doing the ceramic tiles and the finish carpenter. And then everybody else that looks at the gaps behind the base boards and crown moldings and the non square and non plumb corners. I certainly notice. I commonly see stuff that is out by inches! I see the walls where the crowns are not all the same or not the same direction and all the screws pop because the wall board doesn't touch the studs. My last house was from the 50's and all old growth fir. Straight as an arrow even 50 years later. My current house and shop looks like it was framed by a two year old with a bad attitude. In Canada all the good wood gets exported to places that won't accept the ****** build quality that everybody here says that's the way it is live with it. It's only the way it is because we are willing to put up with it.

 

[buddyboy]

with wood nothing is uniform

framers are supposed to try their best to make things as uniform as possible.

facing your crowns up on floors and trusses, and facing the crowns all the same way on walls is another.

with walls one side will be bowed in the other side (hopefully the closet or outside) is bowed out.

the problem happens when they alternate, you then get wavy walls and ceilings and roofs

your roof will be fine, if one crown was up and another one was down then I would complain.

once the sheathing is on that will add more load to the roof, see if that flattens her out some, shingles add a lot of texture.

as long as the peak and edges are true (notice I said true not square or plumb) and the crowns are all the same way, no one will notice unless you throw a laser up there and point it out

 

[4 FN 27]

Lumber....I hate it

Being a Tool & Die Maker, I'm used to working in decimal places of .0001. When I work with lumber, I get totally aggravated because wood is so much different to work with. I have worked with some really SUPER carpenters. A half inch, to an inch, depending on what is being framed......Close enough

If you used a Mic or a Caliper in your job daily this is the curse you develop!!!

I cringe when I pick up a Tape Measure and it only reads to 1/32 of an inch. I am making the transition using a Tape like this:

 

[jd_1138]

It's rough framing -- not a big deal. Most people wouldn't even know or care -- especially customers. I got a friend who hired a fancy contractor to build his mom a house next to his, and it's been sitting built for 5 months without being sided. They are going to do the inside before doing the siding. Now that I'd be pissed about. It's logical to side the house and get it protected from the elements. Sure the house wrap is nice, but it isn't as good as housewrap with siding on top.

 

[Lassen Forge]

I would work around it, using the $1000 rebate on "faulty material" to fix any perceived problems - which seems do-able, but if you're really cheesed about this, you could always return them and tell them you want a product that's within the specs you set for them. It may be an uphill battle, but that's your option.

 

[slowthump]

If you used a Mic or a Caliper in your job daily this is the curse you develop!!!

I cringe when I pick up a Tape Measure and it only reads to 1/32 of an inch. I am making the transition using a Tape like this:

We would all be better if off if the USA had made the full switch to the metric system along time ago. Metric is so much easier to use and so much easier to learn.

 

[mmb617]

Holy resurrection Batman. Since it's been over two years I kind of think the op has resolved the problem by now.

 

[StingRay]

We would all be better if off if the USA had made the full switch to the metric system along time ago. Metric is so much easier to use and so much easier to learn.

In Canada we are metric. In carpentry the standard is still Imperial. I grew up during the change over and while with most stuff I think in metric terms when it comes to linear measure I still think in feet and inches.

 

[wolfhawk73]

Being a Tool & Die Maker, I'm used to working in decimal places of .0001. When I work with lumber, I get totally aggravated because wood is so much different to work with.

Once everything is covered up, wood on the top, drywall on the bottom, knock this over here, tap that over there......it all works out in the end. I've been through $500,000+ homes when they were being framed up, and you can see where things are off, but afterwards, when things are finished, things look fantastic.

1. Measure it with a micrometer
2. Mark it with a grease pencil
3. Caulk it to fit
4. Paint it to match

 

[Orange65]

Two year old thread- I wonder how it came out? Did the owner have them correct it or keep going? How did it look after it was built?

 

[shelteredV]

I frame my stuff with engineered lumber so I don't have to "accept" deviations like this. That said, I would be pissed if I got trusses like that. I'm surprised so many of you are saying he's being too picky and to just move on. That is way out of the realm of spec for trusses. And if you can't see that a roof line is 6" out, you need to have your eyes checked.

 

[JerryB]

Holy resurrection Batman. Since it's been over two years I kind of think the op has resolved the problem by now.

Nah: Probably still in court charging the contractor with putting the natural crown in the construction lumber in up direction.

 

[RocketScott]

I frame my stuff with engineered lumber so I don't have to "accept" deviations like this. That said, I would be pissed if I got trusses like that. I'm surprised so many of you are saying he's being too picky and to just move on. That is way out of the realm of spec for trusses. And if you can't see that a roof line is 6" out, you need to have your eyes checked.

Where did you see 6"? The OP said 1/2"-5/8".

It looks to me like the trusses in the first post are perfect. Once the roofing is on and inside finished out they will be damn near flat. The OP pointed out that they all have the same 'problem'. Had they been up and down I would be concerned but it doesn't look like that was the case.

 

[Richard Cranium]

You will never find perfect ones. Just like wood floor joists you always put the crown up and they will flatten out when the floors go on.