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A, try one of these. You can get them just about anywhere.
Especially handy for doing chassis grafts. It has digital readout in big numbers so you don't need your glasses and works upside down. Mine is an "el cheapo", because my $100 unit got run over, gr%^$&*, and this has lasted about 3 years now.
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Looking great Andy. I'm wondering what you might buy and have sent to you so you have a surprise when it arrives.:D

Hopefully you'll have the rest of the tin on by the end of Labor Day. I didn't catch as to how screwed it down, on the flats or the ridges. When I did mine I did it on the flats but found out the snow doesn't slide as well with all the screws for it to grip onto.

Most anything I buy, in three days I have forgotten and occasionally buy another, then when the first one arrives I say "Wow, that was quick!!" then the second one arrives.:eyecrazy: Did that with an o-ring set, at least they're consumable, so now I have 200 years' supply instead of 100 years :)

I hope we can get the rest of the roof on by tonight, I'm just waiting for a glimpse of light right now so I can get started. If I can't get the roof finished today I may just get so discouraged I stop the project:willy_nil:willy_nil

...for one night...

Manufacturer's recommendation is on the flats. The panels I have are curved on the top of the ridges so the washers wouldn't help much there. There's been so many comments on the screw location I'll try to post a link

http://www.metalpanelsinc.com/2011_installs.html

I'm using the Strongseam AG panels.

We don't do much snow, it's just too much trouble, but I thought you guys put clips on to keep it from sliding off :dunno:
 
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A, try one of these. You can get them just about anywhere.
Especially handy for doing chassis grafts. It has digital readout in big numbers so you don't need your glasses and works upside down. Mine is an "el cheapo", because my $100 unit got run over, gr%^$&*, and this has lasted about 3 years now.
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Thanks!:thumbup:

Maybe I'll buy two or three, place them around the shop (shed) and maybe can find one when I finally need it :)

My only regret is that I can't figure out how to post the word "shed" upside down next to the word "shop" so it would be right side up to you guys. I don't know how you get by with everything upside down. Can you turn your computer over?:dunno:
 

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Hey Andy, I seen a nice paint booth on CL in Wichita under (tools). Its a DeVbliss? $1800.00 you might check it out?:dunno:
 

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Most anything I buy, in three days I have forgotten and occasionally buy another, then when the first one arrives I say "Wow, that was quick!!" then the second one arrives.:eyecrazy: Did that with an o-ring set, at least they're consumable, so now I have 200 years' supply instead of 100 years :)

That's why I have strict policy of creating, and adhering to lists of things I need, and tasks in the shop.


By the way, you haven't seen that list laying around anywhere, have you? I seem to have misplaced it...:spit:
 
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Hey Andy, I seen a nice paint booth on CL in Wichita under (tools). Its a DeVbliss? $1800.00 you might check it out?:dunno:

Thanks for the lead! Unfortunately it's too big for the space I have :( Price is pretty good for what's there, though. This forum is amazing:thumbup:

That's why I have strict policy of creating, and adhering to lists of things I need, and tasks in the shop.


By the way, you haven't seen that list laying around anywhere, have you? I seem to have misplaced it...:spit:

:willy_nil I don't do lists, I loose them :willy_nil

Ditto what 1/2 Cup said!!!
:drool::drool::drool:

Cheers!

I have never owned a Model A before, but always liked the Victorias. I've never driven one either. When we went on our little date, she purred like a kitten. Such a sweetie. My confidence is rising that she likes me, so I am more comfortable taking her out. :rocker: She is really fun when we're out alone :rocker::rocker:

But I really don't like other guys touching her :sad: She seems to like it though. One guy yesterday just popped her bonnet to take a look at her private parts :scared: Kind of bothered me that she was OK with it :willy_nil:willy_nil

I best not show jealousy around her!

Thanks for the visits and comments, guys!
 
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Great day today. A little more humid, but still rather cool (74F) to start. I was concerned we'd get grounded by wind, so I started early, just about dawn. There was no dew:thumbup:

I only had six more sheets to put on the roof. I had two done and the third started when my SIL showed up. He has really been working on this project:bowdown:

By 9:00 AM we were DONE with the roof!:rocker:

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See how tall a guy looks when he finishes a roof!

Then we started sheathing the walls. Worked until 11:00, I had to meet a guy to show him some fields to cut for hay, SIL had family things to do.

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We finally got restarted at 6:30 and by 8:00 had the walls looking like a building! My oldest great grandson's other grandfather showed up so we drafted him to help. I'm standing on a ladder waiting for them to bring more sheathing to me.

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Definitely looking like a building!

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Just about ready for metal on the walls!

I've got to get busy and find overhead doors to put in the big holes. And it's time to buy insulation! And one more work day and I have to go to Houston. Oh well, I need the rest.
 
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A, try one of these. You can get them just about anywhere.
Especially handy for doing chassis grafts. It has digital readout in big numbers so you don't need your glasses and works upside down. Mine is an "el cheapo", because my $100 unit got run over, gr%^$&*, and this has lasted about 3 years now.
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Hmmm, looks like I'll have to hang around Aldi a bit more often.

Thanks Terrick :thumbup:
 
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Hi Andy
I have spent the last few nights reading through your thread
What a great job you've done getting started in the reengineering of your garage.
We have a lot in common, as I read of your adventures i find more and more of the same likes and things around the garage.

So I'll be checking in on your progress often now that I know more about you
Thanks for sharing

Don

P.S. You will really enjoy the paint booth lol
 

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Andy,
That is looking great! You've got 'er almost buttoned up! I keep thinking of the first pics you posted of where you were starting and it just made me exhausted thinking what it would take to clean it up! I haven't got half the stuff you did and my stuff seems overwhelming. So I just want to say thanks for the inspiration and the hope that if you can tackle that, then mine doesn't seem so bad!

Very well done sir, and keep up the great work! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Cheers!
 

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I read the whole saga, and it gives me hope for cleaning up my shop. First, I have to wait a decade or two so as not to be catching a head start.

A little while back, my neighbor helped me paint my mower, he said 'Im painting my little car after hours at work (modern high output body shop), why don't you bring that down and we'll paint it too. so we got there, did some prep and fired up the spray booth. 60f to 112 I think in about 5 minutes with the 36" exhaust fan going. Seems like a lot of energy, but if you have a foundry next door to the spray booth, you should be able to bake the **** out of some paint.
 

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Your stories about engineers are great and really strike a cord with me. I was talking to one of the operators about a truck I was having trouble with and mentioned I had to pull the heads and have them machined so I could install screw in rocker studs and new valves and springs. A repairman laughed at the statement and said sure you are, but who is doing the work for you? I told him I was doing all of the work but the machining. He couldn't believe that an engineer actually worked on his own stuff and that I knew what I was doing. (I really didn't have a clue, but learned.) Now we help each other troubleshoot all the time.
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I know its a little late now, but I've seen this new product at Menards that's OSB but it has a plastic like material on the one side. Then you use a tape for the seems and it seals all the weather out. Might be too expensive for barn use?? Man it would be nice to have the help you get:thumbup:
 

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Man that came together quickly and looking good! Your progress is astounding. Especially considering taking the time to run errands and pick stuff up too.

Better get some doors and lights up quick... Vicky won't like you fiddling with her parts in the dark or for the world to see! She may be a flirt but still have to maintain a modicum of grace and civility. :lol:
 

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See Andy, told you it would only be another week and you'd be done'ish. Good work.

"My oldest great grandson's other grandfather" - this is too many generations of complication for me. Never have been good keeping track of such things though. :bounce:

Vicks looks fantastic.

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Great progress Andy, it does look like a building. :thumbup:

Thanks! I've made several mistakes but so far nothing that has to be redone. Has to be redone is certainly very subjective, but my goal is a functional building, not a work of art :lol_hitti

Ditto what Slim said when he said "Ditto what 1/2 cup said". :willy_nil

I always liked Ditto and Dot in family Circus.:willy_nil:willy_nil

Hmmm, looks like I'll have to hang around Aldi a bit more often.

Thanks Terrick :thumbup:

I've been to Aldi's but we don't have any close to me. When we went to Holland I was too cheap to pay to use a shopping cart. Then my wife noticed if you return the cart you get your money back! Duh!! Seems like Aldi's in the US have the same deposit plan.

It is easy Andy - we are upside down. :lol:

:3gears::3gears:

Thanks for the visits and comments guys!
 
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Hi Andy
I have spent the last few nights reading through your thread
What a great job you've done getting started in the reengineering of your garage.
We have a lot in common, as I read of your adventures i find more and more of the same likes and things around the garage.

So I'll be checking in on your progress often now that I know more about you
Thanks for sharing

Don

P.S. You will really enjoy the paint booth lol

Thanks for visiting, Don, and for the kind words! I've been reading your thread and love it, but don't comment much. I'm intimidated by your collection and skills :) I'm honored by your visit, even if you didn't go to college:lol_hitti

Andy,
That is looking great! You've got 'er almost buttoned up! I keep thinking of the first pics you posted of where you were starting and it just made me exhausted thinking what it would take to clean it up! I haven't got half the stuff you did and my stuff seems overwhelming. So I just want to say thanks for the inspiration and the hope that if you can tackle that, then mine doesn't seem so bad!

Very well done sir, and keep up the great work! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Cheers!

Well thanks for the kind words. I feel like I'm not very inspirational but, hey, if anyone gets motivated by my efforts I'm honored.

I keep trying not to think about what's ahead. If you look at the elephant you could give up, but a couple of bites a day and you'll run out of elephant.

At my wife's office one day, somebody bet somebody else fifty dollars to do something. Another bloke said "for fifty dollars I'd eat that hockey puck" referring to the puck on his desk. They had fifty bucks raised in about five minutes to watch him eat the puck. She came home laughing about it. I told her I'd eat it. We'll just grind it up and put it in several meatloafs. I don't like meatloaf anyway.

We can all surprise ourselves with persistence and patience.

Andy, just fantastic to seeing your build come together, well done..:thumbup:

1/3, Always great having you visit - Thanks!

I read the whole saga, and it gives me hope for cleaning up my shop. First, I have to wait a decade or two so as not to be catching a head start.

A little while back, my neighbor helped me paint my mower, he said 'Im painting my little car after hours at work (modern high output body shop), why don't you bring that down and we'll paint it too. so we got there, did some prep and fired up the spray booth. 60f to 112 I think in about 5 minutes with the 36" exhaust fan going. Seems like a lot of energy, but if you have a foundry next door to the spray booth, you should be able to bake the **** out of some paint.

WOW! That is a lot of energy!

But what a great forum:rocker::rocker: You just told me something I didn't know. I have these old tractors, and they get cow **** on them. Knowing I can bake the **** out of the paint makes me very happy. I'll save tons of time not having to clean the **** off first!:willy_nil:willy_nil
 
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Your stories about engineers are great and really strike a cord with me. I was talking to one of the operators about a truck I was having trouble with and mentioned I had to pull the heads and have them machined so I could install screw in rocker studs and new valves and springs. A repairman laughed at the statement and said sure you are, but who is doing the work for you? I told him I was doing all of the work but the machining. He couldn't believe that an engineer actually worked on his own stuff and that I knew what I was doing. (I really didn't have a clue, but learned.) Now we help each other troubleshoot all the time.
JB

Great experience! You pay the company lots of dividends by working together with mutual respect.

Too many young engineers (and some older ones) never seem to have the respect for the crafts that they should. And they seem to be very proud of the engineering skills they have and are eager to display those skills to the "uneducated". I'll give you a little unsolicited advice. Nobody needs to know you are a skillful engineer. They assume you know lots more than you do and really laugh at you when you fail to know everything. What they do need to know is that you are a person, and especially a person who respects what they know and are up against in their job. When there is a problem and the engineers are called in, the guys with the problem know what needs to be done, they just don't have the authority to do it. Listen to them and you'll be a superstar.

I'm sure you can grasp the situation where I had to demonstrate a heilarc welding technique none of our shop welders knew. If was very important through that process that I not laugh at their skills, nor that an engineer, much less a supervisor had welding skills they didn't have. By holding my tongue I had a lot better relationship with all the crafts than I had before.

What is interesting to me, surprising, and even amazing, are the skills and knowledge collectively held by the non-degreed employees in a company. I've always said "we could buy all the materials and just dump them in the yard and tell the guys to go get it. I guarantee you they could get the project built, and it might embarrass us how well they would do."

I know its a little late now, but I've seen this new product at Menards that's OSB but it has a plastic like material on the one side. Then you use a tape for the seems and it seals all the weather out. Might be too expensive for barn use?? Man it would be nice to have the help you get:thumbup:

Is that the material Thomas Payne used in his shop? As you might guess, I'm not much for premium solutions. (galvanized siding, no colored steel) I rely on the sheetrock and paint to seal the air out. No Tyvek wrap even. If you have integrity of the internal membrane, a little airflow into the insulation is not all that damaging to your insulation effectiveness. Part of that system is no electrical penetrations through the sheetrock. Of course that's not for everyone, especially those who have to have electrical inspections:lol:

Man that came together quickly and looking good! Your progress is astounding. Especially considering taking the time to run errands and pick stuff up too.

Better get some doors and lights up quick... Vicky won't like you fiddling with her parts in the dark or for the world to see! She may be a flirt but still have to maintain a modicum of grace and civility. :lol:

No, no,no, no! Going slow, must work harder, must go faster. No rest allowed, work, work, work.

Did I ever tell you I work for a slave driver. When I was building pole barns during my previous retirement it took me two employees to finish a building. Several jobs, I'd hire a helper, we'd dig the holes, set the poles, put on the purlins. The next day he wouldn't show up. Hire another that wanted to work and we'd put the tin on. They get to stay on the ground (need somebody on the ground, don't want the liability of them on the roof, and I can't QC each screw installation from the ground). Sometimes they'd finish the job and sometimes I'd finish it alone the next day.:dunno:

Got a question - is it Guster like Rooster or Guster like Duster? I'll let you crow about your dust free shop...

See Andy, told you it would only be another week and you'd be done'ish. Good work.

"My oldest great grandson's other grandfather" - this is too many generations of complication for me. Never have been good keeping track of such things though. :bounce:

Vicks looks fantastic.

GB.

You got me on that one, I could really make progress if I didn't have to go to Houston tomorrow:( (I'm an MD Anderson patient and they have summoned me)

You think generational complication because both of my great grandson's grandfathers were helping?

How about this: My wife has a brother 8 years younger, and a sister 16 years younger (they were worried when the youngest turned eight). My step daughter married the SIL who was two years older than me (hey, you can't do anything about it, and he did have a backhoe and dump truck). At Thanksgiving, his son came to the dinner at my sister-in-law's house. They hit it off so the SIL's son married my sister-in-law. That is, my grandson married my sister-in-law. So now my grandson is my brother-in-law. Daughter calls him Uncle Son - Her aunt's husband is her husband's son. Got it?

The grandson's daughter said it best when she was eight. Wife's brother is named Ronnie. So her step mom's brother is her uncle Ronnie. Ronnie is also my SIL's uncle (his wife's uncle) so the little girl says: "grandpa, you ahve an uncle Ronnie, and I have an uncle Ronnie, and it's the same uncle Ronnie, does that mean you are your own grandpa?" And that relationship is better than the song where the guy proclaims he is his own grandpa because he married his grandpa's young widow. We have had some interesting labels on Christmas gifts, like "to my Grandson from your Brother-In-Law". This is all true :willy_nil:willy_nil:willy_nil There will be a test later.:eyecrazy:

You made Miss Vicky blush. (thanks Bobby)
 

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How about this: My wife has a brother 8 years younger, and a sister 16 years younger (they were worried when the youngest turned eight). My step daughter married the SIL who was two years older than me (hey, you can't do anything about it, and he did have a backhoe and dump truck). At Thanksgiving, his son came to the dinner at my sister-in-law's house. They hit it off so the SIL's son married my sister-in-law. That is, my grandson married my sister-in-law. So now my grandson is my brother-in-law. Daughter calls him Uncle Son - Her aunt's husband is her husband's son. Got it?

The grandson's daughter said it best when she was eight. Wife's brother is named Ronnie. So her step mom's brother is her uncle Ronnie. Ronnie is also my SIL's uncle (his wife's uncle) so the little girl says: "grandpa, you ahve an uncle Ronnie, and I have an uncle Ronnie, and it's the same uncle Ronnie, does that mean you are your own grandpa?" And that relationship is better than the song where the guy proclaims he is his own grandpa because he married his grandpa's young widow. We have had some interesting labels on Christmas gifts, like "to my Grandson from your Brother-In-Law". This is all true :willy_nil:willy_nil:willy_nil There will be a test later.
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Andy

You belong on the stage - - - the first stage outta town!

Do you perform that routine publicly? I'd pay to see it. :3gears:

I still can't fathom most of it. ;) :eek:

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Huh? :dunno: :dunno: :eyecrazy:
 
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Well it was another good day today. Got started putting trim up for the metal and had the west wall done by 1:15. That included putting in two windows that wouldn't fit. I absently minded cut the header the width of the windows so the cripples were inside the window opening. After doing a careful engineering analysis I decided the cripples were unnecessary so we cut out the cripples and didn't look back.

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After lunch we tackled the north wall. Lot's of trips up and down the ladder as my SIL prefers me to mark out multiple cuts on a sheet so he can laugh at me when I get it wrong.

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Felt pretty good about the day's work, but I sure wish I could finish the south wall tomorrow!

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I did pick up the 8 ft overhead doors at Lowe's when I was getting the metal, so they are ready to install.

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So should I install the doors before or after the sheetrock? Seems like they should go in after.:dunno:
 
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Andy

You belong on the stage - - - the first stage outta town!

Do you perform that routine publicly? I'd pay to see it. :3gears:

I still can't fathom most of it. ;) :eek:

Lyndon
Huh? :dunno: :dunno: :eyecrazy:

I'm somewhat embarrassed that you seem to think my family relationships are a joke. We all work hard to make our family relationships work. My life is just a bit easier, my wonderful SIL just happens to be my sister-in-law's father-in-law. Which is OK since my sister-in-law is also my son-in-law's daughter-in-law.:lol_hitti So if I get mad at my SIL I can still maintain a good relationship with my sister-in-law's father-in-law. That's not a close relationship, of course.

Wait! Maybe it is a joke, our whole family is a joke:eyecrazy:

Help me with this one, my daughter and SIL had a grandson from her previous marriage who was the same age as my SIL's granddaughter (my great granddaughter), (that would be my niece through my sister-in-law). If they happened to marry, I just can't figure it all out.:willy_nil

Please help with my true life quandary.
 

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...Knowing I can bake the **** out of the paint makes me very happy. I'll save tons of time not having to clean the **** off first!:willy_nil:willy_nil

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti I thought that was funny, then this came along...


...How about this: My wife has a brother 8 years younger, and a sister 16 years younger (they were worried when the youngest turned eight). My step daughter married the SIL who was two years older than me (hey, you can't do anything about it, and he did have a backhoe and dump truck). At Thanksgiving, his son came to the dinner at my sister-in-law's house. They hit it off so the SIL's son married my sister-in-law. That is, my grandson married my sister-in-law. So now my grandson is my brother-in-law. Daughter calls him Uncle Son - Her aunt's husband is her husband's son. Got it?

The grandson's daughter said it best when she was eight. Wife's brother is named Ronnie. So her step mom's brother is her uncle Ronnie. Ronnie is also my SIL's uncle (his wife's uncle) so the little girl says: "grandpa, you ahve an uncle Ronnie, and I have an uncle Ronnie, and it's the same uncle Ronnie, does that mean you are your own grandpa?" And that relationship is better than the song where the guy proclaims he is his own grandpa because he married his grandpa's young widow. We have had some interesting labels on Christmas gifts, like "to my Grandson from your Brother-In-Law". This is all true :willy_nil:willy_nil:willy_nil There will be a test later.:eyecrazy:
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Got a question - is it Guster like Rooster or Guster like Duster? I'll let you crow about your dust free shop...

That's a really good question Andy, I'd thought Guster like Duster - but seeing as he's a Kiwi, anything's possible... it could be Guster like Mister. :lol_hitti

Just kidding Guster, feel free to mutilate any vowels that you want to mate.
 
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That's a really good question Andy, I'd thought Guster like Duster - but seeing as he's a Kiwi, anything's possible... it could be Guster like Mister. :lol_hitti

Just kidding Guster, feel free to mutilate any vowels that you want to mate.

Oh, WOW! He's a KIWI? I'm so sorry, I didn't know.

Isn't that a cute little bird?:dunno: It must be Guster like Duster then, because they make dusters out of Kiwi feathers, don't they?

I guess he has his own computer:dunno:, the keyboard must be a mess with all that pecking going on.

Just trying to figure this stuff out, this is so hard...
 

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The new addition is really taking shape Andy - I have a question about the gap between the wall and the roof on the long side, is that for a deep box gutter or something else?
 
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Andy

You belong on the stage - - - the first stage outta town!

Do you perform that routine publicly? I'd pay to see it.

That's so funny, why do people think I can tell jokes? It's hard to remember jokes. And what if you offend someone, I never ever want to offend another just to make someone laugh.

So I'm a project manager at an engineering company several years ago. We have a good client we do lots of work for, and are starting a surveying division. They gather client managers together and our managers that do projects for that client to try to sell surveying to them. I go to learn (and critique) not to sell. I barely know the new surveyor but had worked at another company with him.

Everybody's in a room (probably 30) and this guy says "start us off with a joke, Andy". Damn! At least warn me in advance. I'm not good on my feet. So I stand up and the first thing that pops into my head is to separate the men from the boys. So I say "the man that invented the theodolite turned the world upside down".

Half the people got it, the other half were clueless, big deal, important invention. I felt good about that.

Now I know this GJ group is not expected to have surveying experience, so I'll tell you, the theodolite reverses the image, so when you look through it, the sky is on bottom and the earth is on top (kind of like down under, I guess), and the "silent experts" showed they had never peered into one of the most common (at that time) surveying instruments. And the theodolite was such an improvement in accuracy and ease of use over a transit it really did turn the "world upside down", transits were obsolete, you really needed to get a theodolite.

My boss came to me later and was pissed (and had not been drinking, American pissed), he had to ask me what was so dang funny. Not wanting to embarrass him with confrontation of his limited knowledge, I told him it was because I mispronounced theodolite.:lol: Dodged a bullet there.
 
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The new addition is really taking shape Andy - I have a question about the gap between the wall and the roof on the long side, is that for a deep box gutter or something else?

I assume you want the truth. I made the walls 8 ft tall. No drawings. The ends of the rafters raise it another five inches. I almost made the walls 8' 4" to gain headroom but didn't want to hear the sheetrocker moan and definitely didn't want to put sheetrock on an 8' 4" wall myself.

So I'm on the phone ordering steel and tell the nice lady the wall is 8 ft tall. And it is, inside.

While I was at the metal shop I noticed they have perforated sheet shaped like the siding. Not really good to keep rain out, I mused.

When I realized my mistake yesterday I said Oh Sh!t. SIL says "what?" so I tell him I've got a nice attic vent, yes, that's it, a vent!

So I'll order twenty pieces of perforated steel ten inches long and make a really finished looking wall.

If you hadn't asked, I might have just thrilled you guys with my clever vent design, but, alas, dumb luck save.
 

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I assume you want the truth. I made the walls 8 ft tall. No drawings. The ends of the rafters raise it another five inches. I almost made the walls 8' 4" to gain headroom but didn't want to hear the sheetrocker moan and definitely didn't want to put sheetrock on an 8' 4" wall myself.

So I'm on the phone ordering steel and tell the nice lady the wall is 8 ft tall. And it is, inside.

While I was at the metal shop I noticed they have perforated sheet shaped like the siding. Not really good to keep rain out, I mused.

When I realized my mistake yesterday I said Oh Sh!t. SIL says "what?" so I tell him I've got a nice attic vent, yes, that's it, a vent!

So I'll order twenty pieces of perforated steel ten inches long and make a really finished looking wall.

If you hadn't asked, I might have just thrilled you guys with my clever vent design, but, alas, dumb luck save.

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti Good one Andy. Not as good as you family story, but a good one none the less.
 

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Sometimes I think if it weren't for dumb luck I'd have no luck at all. :lol_hitti I will have to make a trip over there sometime to help you out, if for no other reason than to just tell stories and laugh at some of the dumb luck we've both undoubtedly had.

Speaking of dumb luck, I shouldn't have survived childhood, or at least not had full function of all of my extremities. I am one of six boys and have no sisters, to say that we made trouble and gave our parents a heart attack a few times would be an understatement. About 5 years ago when most of us were in our early to mid 20's we were home for Thanksgiving. We were pecking around in old boxes of stuff and found a small bow and arrow. Well one thing led to another and we ended up playing catch with the arrow. :lol_hitti One of my more athletic brothers actually shot two arrows in the air and caught both of them. :pimpflash

Then last week my youngest brother who is 17 and planning to go to college to be an engineer as well sent my dad a text basically saying he had done one of the stupidest things he had ever done. (Turned out to be an understatement.) He had set some cardboard boxes by the door and shot them with a crossbow. :dunno: Well the bolt (arrow) went through the boxes, door, and the glass on the screen door. :lol_hitti:lol_hitti We all got a kick out of that one.

JB
 

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I assume you want the truth. I made the walls 8 ft tall. No drawings. The ends of the rafters raise it another five inches. I almost made the walls 8' 4" to gain headroom but didn't want to hear the sheetrocker moan and definitely didn't want to put sheetrock on an 8' 4" wall myself.

So I'm on the phone ordering steel and tell the nice lady the wall is 8 ft tall. And it is, inside.

While I was at the metal shop I noticed they have perforated sheet shaped like the siding. Not really good to keep rain out, I mused.

When I realized my mistake yesterday I said Oh Sh!t. SIL says "what?" so I tell him I've got a nice attic vent, yes, that's it, a vent!

So I'll order twenty pieces of perforated steel ten inches long and make a really finished looking wall.

If you hadn't asked, I might have just thrilled you guys with my clever vent design, but, alas, dumb luck save.


They make 9' sheetrock:D
 

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...found a small bow and arrow. Well one thing led to another and ...

Haha, that brings back memories JB, I "caught" a home-made arrow with my eye brow once.
A couple of years later I "caught" a home-made spear with same eye brow. :willy_nil

When I said "caught", I actually mean "block" (I have to clarify or Andy will visualize huge hairy eye brows that can actually grab hold of things).

It was quite convenient that we lived across the street from the ambulance station. :lol:
 

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No, no,no, no! Going slow, must work harder, must go faster. No rest allowed, work, work, work.

Did I ever tell you I work for a slave driver. When I was building pole barns during my previous retirement it took me two employees to finish a building. Several jobs, I'd hire a helper, we'd dig the holes, set the poles, put on the purlins. The next day he wouldn't show up. Hire another that wanted to work and we'd put the tin on. They get to stay on the ground (need somebody on the ground, don't want the liability of them on the roof, and I can't QC each screw installation from the ground). Sometimes they'd finish the job and sometimes I'd finish it alone the next day.:dunno:

Got a question - is it Guster like Rooster or Guster like Duster? I'll let you crow about your dust free shop...

Tin is up already! I’m almost sure I spotted an army of Amish barn-raising ninja silhouettes in the treeline. Hiding just out of shot in that last photo. Either that or your family tree has some strong Amish branches… because there’s a good amount of barn-raisin’ in your blood sir.

I know the feeling. My wife makes a good slave driver. Last year this time she left me home, looking after kids, cooking dinner and pouring concrete for the deck posts. Gets mighty confusing trying not to put concrete in the pot and rice in the post hole after the 5th or so back-and-forth between kitchen and backyard while checking on the chicken roast. Men are not really equipped for multitasking at that level of extreme.

Guster as duster or probabaly more like buster. Username I used primarily on sailing and kitesurfing forums and eventually it stuck!

Gust
1. A strong, abrupt rush of wind.
2. A sudden burst, as of rain or smoke.
3. An outburst of emotion.
intr.v. gust•ed, gust•ing, gusts
To blow in gusts.


Yes, I’m a kiwi. Otherwise known as a citizen from that other country next to the land down-under, called New Zealand. No roos, wombats, dingos or crocs here. Just cheeky parrots and cute flightless birds. We had moa but apparently they were just as tasty as dodos. Though there’s recently been a lot of orcas around here – more than normal for this time of the year. Mind you I was born in Africa so I have a little wild in me too so seeing some decent wildlife is rather refreshing. We also don’t tend to slaughter vowels as much as some ex-prisoner colonies.
 

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Looks like bigger is better to me
Nice addition and in short time, Good job Andy

I read the piece about your confusing relitives 3 times and still don't get it but got a good laugh thanks

Don
 
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