The VISES of Garage Journal
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drivesitfar
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Meatsis: did Joe offer to quit calling you names and maybe give you 3 anvils for that monster? i'm waiting to hear how the big guy and Joe make out too because it ain't no little thing like most of the stuff he works on.
Gert: those are KEEPERS in my book too and still wish i had my C2, but it's safe and happy on another member's bench. you need a few more before we start worrrying about you having a vice for vises though. keep up the great work not only finding those gems, but also in how you restore them. it's almost turning into art when you post one spiffed up. WELL DONE
GMAN: you know i have to remind you now since you put all 3 in the picture that the 6 inch now needs a swivel base so hopefully AutoPts has one to ship or have for you to pick up. pretty nice looking bunch and i bet that member you sold the 350 to will take a 400 if you find one to trade him down the road.
3TV: nice looking vise and even nicer looking bench and tool box. just curious are you going to measure 2 or 3 times before drilling the holes to mount it or are you going to mount it to a piece of plate or just clamp it on?
Gert: those are KEEPERS in my book too and still wish i had my C2, but it's safe and happy on another member's bench. you need a few more before we start worrrying about you having a vice for vises though. keep up the great work not only finding those gems, but also in how you restore them. it's almost turning into art when you post one spiffed up. WELL DONE
GMAN: you know i have to remind you now since you put all 3 in the picture that the 6 inch now needs a swivel base so hopefully AutoPts has one to ship or have for you to pick up. pretty nice looking bunch and i bet that member you sold the 350 to will take a 400 if you find one to trade him down the road.
3TV: nice looking vise and even nicer looking bench and tool box. just curious are you going to measure 2 or 3 times before drilling the holes to mount it or are you going to mount it to a piece of plate or just clamp it on?
joe.striper
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Hey Drivesit, i picked up and moved my new 181 lb Trenton by myself tonight, no problem. That little 97? No problem. Im planning on mounting the 97 on this table.
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drivesitfar
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Joe: isn't the 97 275 pounds or in that range? another 100 pounds more than your new anvil is quite a bit, but if i recall correctly you do have a nice lift table and you can move it around in two pieces. good luck
fl18guy
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I bid on that vise as well. Glad it went to a gj member. She looked cleaned but pics were a little dark. Good luck with her
KMScott
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I was watching that one real close too, great that you got it NJ Marty.
What is everyone complaining about the weight of vises, last thing I think about is how heavy a vise is. Remember a heavy vise is a good thing.
What is everyone complaining about the weight of vises, last thing I think about is how heavy a vise is. Remember a heavy vise is a good thing.
Planning on using some 1/2" cadnium plated bolts with large dual washers on the bottom and lock nuts on the top. Hadn't planned on using a mounting plate.
va.grouseman
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NJ. I topped out at $275.00---I knew that wouldn't get it, but I just had to take a swing at it.---It's a nice one and they are pretty rare.---You see more Charlie Parkers than Yost rotators.
KMS.---A monster might be a little more to man-handle and slog around, and might be a little more cumbersome in the restoration process, but you can do so much bigger projects with a heavy-duty third hand available.
KMS.---A monster might be a little more to man-handle and slog around, and might be a little more cumbersome in the restoration process, but you can do so much bigger projects with a heavy-duty third hand available.slow_runner
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I heard a thud at the door today and saw the mailman scurrying off to his truck. Just in front of the door I saw an abused box with the end of vise handle sticking out. DOH! Who packed this thing?
Just look real close at the second picture. The clueless/careless seller just threw in some broken up Styrofoam bits, shoved in the PRENTISS 18 (!) and sealed up the box.
The vise is OK but I think I have end organ damage from the high blood pressure event.
Sorry for the bad picture. I was still shaking.
More on this vise later. As you can see, it is missing a jaw and I am trying to figure out how to take the jaw off the dynamic so I can make one.
The seller is a *****, ignorant or arrogant. Maybe all three?
I bought a Record 75 recently. It was coming from the other end of the island so I called and discussed methods of packing with the seller. Banana boxes are robust and carry 18 -20KG, right?
My vice arrived in its banana box, screwed to a 10mm plywood base with plywood spreaders holding the vice down and fixed with screws through the side of the box. The lid was taped down well over a covering of HD foam sheet and the delivery address written on the upper side only. The theory goes like this; as the courier like to see addresses of the consignment, by addressing the top panel it goes someway to avoiding the parcel being tossed about too much. When they are tipped out onto the sorting floor that's another story.
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sandman54
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Exactly, Mister Scott that is part of the reason i have forklifts big vises,big anvils,big power hammers,big metal tables... Large is pretty much KING around here, happy hunting Sandman!!!
bagged89s10
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I was watching that. I was hoping it would fly under the radar and I would get it for under $100. Glad you got it though.
meatsis
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jimreed2160
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Here is a better shot of the little Prentiss 18.
And here it is getting a little help from a friend--woodworking vise helps his little buddy. The bottom nut is square?!?
It is in fair shape. One jaw missing so I ordered a pair. Now for the cleanup.
And here it is getting a little help from a friend--woodworking vise helps his little buddy. The bottom nut is square?!?
It is in fair shape. One jaw missing so I ordered a pair. Now for the cleanup.
meatsis
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Nice Marty! Those old yost swivel vises are awesome. its nice how you just pull the handle up once and you can swivel in both directions. I was lucky to score the same one as yours a few weeks ago at a local flea market. The only difference is mine doesn't have any writing on it like yours. But its the exact same vise so Im assuming its a Yost. Im not gonna restore mine either. mine was a little stiff so I just took it apart and cleaned/greased the insides to make it swivel easier. And You don't want to know what I paid for mine. Heres a few pics.
Would it be possible to redress the serrations? What tool would best be used? Just a file or something on a dremel tool?
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drivesitfar
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JUS: nice old Cadet and when you take it apart to spiff it up a little would you mind taking a few pictures of the date stamp and posting over on the Wilton date stamp thread? congrats
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269079
Marty: was that full price?? just kidding, but had to razz you a little because on the Garage Sale thread you said you paid full price for the FPU and that was $75, but maybe that's because that's all the seller was asking. your vise collection just moved up another notch with that Yost. WELL DONE!!
Meatsis: i know JOE is a big guy. do you know how much that 8 inch vise weighs that you are selling him? i'm not a little guy and just putting back together those 150 pound 6 inchers is sometimes a pain. even with lift tables, fork lifts and skills those 8 inchers have to be a challenge so just wanted to hear what the VISEMAN has to say. Personally like most of you i'd love the challenge myself and maybe one day it will happen.
Speaking of skills how do you put an 8 inch vise back together? i might tend to put the dynamic in the static without the screw and then put the screw in while laying on it's side so i can slip on the sleeve and move the screw without the dynamic's weight to get it started. that method really works on those big wilton bullets without even having to turn them on their sides with that horseshoe clamp holding the dynamic in and i'm guessing maybe Parkers might be the same. Do tell??
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269079
Marty: was that full price?? just kidding, but had to razz you a little because on the Garage Sale thread you said you paid full price for the FPU and that was $75, but maybe that's because that's all the seller was asking. your vise collection just moved up another notch with that Yost. WELL DONE!!
Meatsis: i know JOE is a big guy. do you know how much that 8 inch vise weighs that you are selling him? i'm not a little guy and just putting back together those 150 pound 6 inchers is sometimes a pain. even with lift tables, fork lifts and skills those 8 inchers have to be a challenge so just wanted to hear what the VISEMAN has to say. Personally like most of you i'd love the challenge myself and maybe one day it will happen.
Speaking of skills how do you put an 8 inch vise back together? i might tend to put the dynamic in the static without the screw and then put the screw in while laying on it's side so i can slip on the sleeve and move the screw without the dynamic's weight to get it started. that method really works on those big wilton bullets without even having to turn them on their sides with that horseshoe clamp holding the dynamic in and i'm guessing maybe Parkers might be the same. Do tell??
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meatsis
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Drivesitfar I haven't actually weighed the Athol 97. I would guess its in the 250 pound range. As far as putting these big guys together, what I do is clamp the static assembly to my workbench (which weighs over 3000 pounds) with a set of large C clamps. Once secure to the bench I slide the dynamic assembly in. Like you said taking the screw out usually makes it easier too. Cleaning up that big Athol 628 was a real treat. It took me quite a few nights out in the shop to finish that one. But it was well worth it. After man handling these monsters for a few days its really nice to restore a small 3 inch vise that gets done in an hour or two.
Outlawmws
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Triangular file and a steady hand. I don't think a Dremel would be a good choice without some involved fixtureing...
I'd go easy. Again, these were not intended to be heavy teeth...
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GETRIDAONE
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You will have some really sore finger tips and a dent in your finger for awhile. !!!!!!
Outlawmws
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^^ A man of experience! Gloves?
GETRIDAONE
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I think it was a thin pad and some duct tape around my fore finger. I have gloves but my hands are trashed before I remember to put them on 
Nice Marty! Those old yost swivel vises are awesome. its nice how you just pull the handle up once and you can swivel in both directions. I was lucky to score the same one as yours a few weeks ago at a local flea market. The only difference is mine doesn't have any writing on it like yours. But its the exact same vise so Im assuming its a Yost. Im not gonna restore mine either. mine was a little stiff so I just took it apart and cleaned/greased the insides to make it swivel easier. And You don't want to know what I paid for mine. Heres a few pics.
That one looks identical to the Yost and would think it was made by them for someone else. I dont think the Yost I got has seen the swivel used in Many decades but it moves smooth with a little effort. I will have to do the same as you by taking it apart and greasing it. Great score, your heart must have skipped a beat when you saw it and I hope you got a great price.
joe.striper
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Marty buy some valve lapping compound, clean the body well, then put in the compound and spin it until smooth. Clean it out thoroughly then grease it up.
Ive seen 4 Yosts like this. All unmarked. Marty yours must be a newer model. By the way i have one in my shop with original paint. Color? Morgan blue.
joe.striper
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Off Topic, i hot to meet Mike Brewer from Wheeler Dealer today at the Big E in West Springfield MA. Love that guy. 
topop101
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Easy as pie! lol.. Use a double cut, double extra slim, taper file . I use mine chucked up in a Miller Falls tool holder patented in 1868. No finger pain...No doubt there were many of saw teeth and other things filed this way back then. Just don't be in a hurry.
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jakemac
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Off Topic, i hot to meet Mike Brewer from Wheeler Dealer today at the Big E in West Springfield MA. Love that guy.
Did you sell him a vise ?
joe.striper
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Did you sell him a vise ?
I told him to get rid of all that English **** i always see on his show and that I could hook him up with real...serious...US Steel vises.
Well thats a lie. My wife says I acted like a 13 year old girl and he was Elvis!
Off Topic, i hot to meet Mike Brewer from Wheeler Dealer today at the Big E in West Springfield MA. Love that guy.
I keep wondering when they're going to get better vises on that show! I've seen one quick release Record and that's about it.
Fretters
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I told him to get rid of all that English **** i always see on his show and that I could hook him up with real...serious...US Steel vises.
Well thats a lie. My wife says I acted like a 13 year old girl and he was Elvis!
Giving that bloke a good kick in the nads would have cheered up plenty.
That bloke is annoying as hell. You let many blokes down there, missing an opportunity like that, Crabman.
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dutchgray
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This arrived today. Was expensive at £145.50 posted especially considering its only 4" and 16lb
View media item 63836View media item 63832Totally worth it.
View media item 63836View media item 63832Totally worth it.
drivesitfar
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Dean: i thought somebody would have said it already and i'm sure they are all busy today so i will be the first to say that your posts of all the bits and pieces of Reed before you actually showed it all in one piece turned out pretty sweet. of course you know i like Reeds or maybe you don't, but i bet that vise will serve you well unless you already have it heading to another grateful person's bench.
WELL DONE!!
Dutch: i know you've wanted a Ball vice and how do you like it in person? i'd love one too, but with a versa and a wilton with a power arm i've got most angles covered.
FRETTERS and JOE: well we might disagree on who we like and who we don't like and some of us might not get along for 5 minutes if we met each other in person (I doubt that very much), but one thing is for certain we all have a VICE FOR OLD VISES (VICES). carry on and agree to disagree and i still think the Craftsman 519x's were made by Rock Island, but not sure if in this country cause maybe Japan had the factory making them.
cheers all and hope you are all having a great weekend. i'm buying another vise or two or three this weekend and just going to have to find some cheaper storage or move.
WELL DONE!!
Dutch: i know you've wanted a Ball vice and how do you like it in person? i'd love one too, but with a versa and a wilton with a power arm i've got most angles covered.
FRETTERS and JOE: well we might disagree on who we like and who we don't like and some of us might not get along for 5 minutes if we met each other in person (I doubt that very much), but one thing is for certain we all have a VICE FOR OLD VISES (VICES). carry on and agree to disagree and i still think the Craftsman 519x's were made by Rock Island, but not sure if in this country cause maybe Japan had the factory making them.
cheers all and hope you are all having a great weekend. i'm buying another vise or two or three this weekend and just going to have to find some cheaper storage or move.
dutchgray
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Drives
The Ball is sweet, it moves so nicely but locks up solid with little effort, full lock- unlock - full lock is 1/3 turn
The Ball is sweet, it moves so nicely but locks up solid with little effort, full lock- unlock - full lock is 1/3 turn
Fretters
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Lovely vice Dutch'. Is that your first BB?
Is that your first BB?
