The VISES of Garage Journal

[trijeff]

Great job, Zoom! That orange is great ... do you know if it matches the Snap On color? I don't know if that was your intent, just wondering. Once again, really nice work.

IMH, I don't usually give Columbians too much of a look (and really have no basis to say so, I have never seen a closed screw version in person, just from what a lot of the guys have said here) but that one is really clean!! What a great price and a great son

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[NJ Marty]

Dutch: I guess they were made to be abused more than most, but they were still being sold in the 50's so you'd think there would still be some good ones out there?

CW, wish you were closer as I have a nice post vise I would sell you for a very good price so you would not have to deal with the rust

 

[Outlawmws]

Cool finds CW!

Zoomie: Simply stunning!

 

[IHmachinery]

Great job, Zoom! That orange is great ... do you know if it matches the Snap On color? I don't know if that was your intent, just wondering. Once again, really nice work.

IMH, I don't usually give Columbians too much of a look (and really have no basis to say so, I have never seen a closed screw version in person, just from what a lot of the guys have said here) but that one is really clean!! What a great price and a great son

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This may be the first Columbian I have seen in person (at least the enclosed screw style) - they are not as common here in Canada as they seem to be in the US. But I must say it looks to be a very well made vise -- very smooth, very little slop or play. Just a real quality tool. And this one has obviously had a pretty easy life in someone's home shop.



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[va.grouseman]

Previously posted by CwazyWabbit.

Being a little bored this evening I decided to see how bad it really was, weapon of choice was the blue spanner and I thought I'd start with the pivot nut as it was the smallest part.
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Cwazy, I'm assuming that the blue spanner is what we refer to as the red wrench.---Nothing resists the red wrench.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Yep, the blue spanner is indeed.

 

[slow_runner]

A Record No75

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v... No75 arrives/20160912_162216_zpsnzbjfyos.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v... No75 arrives/20160912_162158_zpsfopqkwra.jpg

A Record No74

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ECORD/Record No74/RECORD No74_zps42mxujn2.jpg

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Very nice late Record 74, nice to have the fibre jaws to. Am I mistaken, or is that the pipe jaw in place as well? If it is it would be great to get some dimensions for it as they are nearly always missing and a Record 74 is on my list to purchase.

There is a NOS Record 74 on eBay in the UK at the moment for £299 :-/

 

[CwazyWabbit]

CW, wish you were closer as I have a nice post vise I would sell you for a very good price so you would not have to deal with the rust

Can you imagine the postage? Think I might try hanging the big one in the electrolytic rust removal tank a bit at a time to see how we get on.

It turns out we do have one rust free blacksmiths vice in the UK, check the price http://www.gandmtools.co.uk/shop/blacksmiths-leg-vice-on-stand-4-12-jaws-80203662/ btw don't forget to add 20% vat ......

 

[slow_runner]

Very nice late Record 74, nice to have the fibre jaws to. Am I mistaken, or is that the pipe jaw in place as well? If it is it would be great to get some dimensions for it as they are nearly always missing and a Record 74 is on my list to purchase.

There is a NOS Record 74 on eBay in the UK at the moment for £299 :-/

No problem, I will sort that for you Cwazy.

If anyone has the dimensions for the 75 pipe jaw, I would appreciate the specs too.

 

[slow_runner]

Can you imagine the postage? Think I might try hanging the big one in the electrolytic rust removal tank a bit at a time to see how we get on.
It turns out we do have one rust free blacksmiths vice in the UK, check the price http://www.gandmtools.co.uk/shop/blacksmiths-leg-vice-on-stand-4-12-jaws-80203662/ btw don't forget to add 20% vat ......

What ever you might be attempting to remove, If there are seized components, the electro is the way to go without busting a gut and or the parts

My 75 is in the caustic drum for the while, been there for 5 days and now it is raining. When that stops the parts will be put through the electro bath if needs be.

 

[sandman54]

Previously posted by CwazyWabbit.

Being a little bored this evening I decided to see how bad it really was, weapon of choice was the blue spanner and I thought I'd start with the pivot nut as it was the smallest part.
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Cwazy, I'm assuming that the blue spanner is what we refer to as the red wrench.---Nothing resists the red wrench.

The Gas Axe in my part of the world, very handy! Sandman

 

[timbitca]

A few late photos of some earlier finds.

Rae 140 $20.
Starret/Reed No.923 (broken off piece under jaws) $20.
Record 3VS with soft jaws. $40 or $45 - don't remember now.

Almost bought a very similar RAE in as good condition last month. Then life got in the way and the seller sold it before I could scrape together the few bits of cash needed, **** happens I guess but I really wanted to snag it seeing as it was in such good condition.

 

[drivesitfar]

IH: nice looking Columbian and looks like your son found a 70 ish year old vise that must have been sitting UNDER A BENCH cause it looks almost new condition.

Zoomie: that color will keep the SEA of TETNUS awake. looks like a great restoration and is that the same SNAP ON labels off the Bay that TJ buys? i like these bright colored ones if i was going to paint a vise.

CW: anvils and blacksmith vises so is a forge and a few homemade tools in your near future?

 

[va.grouseman]

The Gas Axe in my part of the world, very handy! Sandman

It's a Rose with many names Sandman, but still a rose.

 

[zoomieport]

Great job, Zoom! That orange is great ... do you know if it matches the Snap On color? I don't know if that was your intent, just wondering. Once again, really nice work.

Thank you!
Yes Sir, OEM "Electric Orange', I was going to keep it and mount it next to my tool box, but I have a C3 that I am going to fix up and use instead.

Zoomie: Simply stunning!

Thank you!

 

[zoomieport]

Zoomie: that color will keep the SEA of TETNUS awake. looks like a great restoration and is that the same SNAP ON labels off the Bay that TJ buys? i like these bright colored ones if i was going to paint a vise.

Yep, same labels, thank you for the kind words!

 

[Blue Frog]

Is this an elusive York vise? I've never seen one personally but have the opportunity to get this one.





Blue Frog

 

[meatsis]

Is this an elusive York vise? I've never seen one personally but have the opportunity to get this one.





Blue Frog

Definitely a York. But I don't know about elusive.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

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CW: anvils and blacksmith vises so is a forge and a few homemade tools in your near future?

I'm undecided between a forge and an induction heater ...... both have advantages.

 

[va.grouseman]

Is this an elusive York vise? I've never seen one personally but have the opportunity to get this one.





Blue Frog

If you put York vise in your followed search list on EBay, they come up right often.---I think there are 5 different sizes.---From #60 to #150.

I think the one you are looking at is missing a swivel base.

 

[KMScott]

Is this an elusive York vise? I've never seen one personally but have the opportunity to get this one.

Blue Frog

Blue, just purchased my last one for my collection, took me a year to get the 60, 80, 100, 125 and 150 mm Yorks. I'll restore the whole lot at once. They are beefy vises.

On another note I was over at my welder friends shop and got the story on his 3" thick welding table with his 150mm York.

<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-RBffpKf/A"><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-RBffpKf/0/M/Steves%20stuff%20%285%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>

The 5' x 8' top came from a base plate off a old locomotive that crashed close by in our mountains. The rigger used a track torch to cut it into 4 pieces so they could drag it up the side of a mountain. Weights over 5,000 lbs, He was lucky to be able to buy this one and a 2" thick top the same length and width from the same wreckage.

<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-QFgXCv5/A"><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-QFgXCv5/0/M/Steves%20stuff%20%281%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>

Steve has been collecting vise in Estes Park for 35 years at garage sales. His collection hooked me.

<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-rsRTKCT/A"><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-rsRTKCT/0/M/Steves%20stuff%20%2813%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>

Every time i visit Steve I see a new vise, antique or something real cool. Thought I would share these busy pictures and I hope you get the York Blue.

 

[dutchgray]

KMScott
Not got a York 60?
They are not all that common here, there is never more than a few on eBay at a given time and they often take a while to sell.

 

[Deadsquiggles]

My Yost 460 all mounted up, braced and supported.

 

[KMScott]

KMScott
Not got a York 60?
They are not all that common here, there is never more than a few on eBay at a given time and they often take a while to sell.

Yea Dutch, just looked at my little York and it is a 60mm not a 50. Just assumed it was around 2" instead of 2-3/8 jaw width. They take a while to sell right. If so then they are a bargain over a Wilton. Eventually I'll tear into one but did make several jaws for the 150mm (5.9) vise. They use straight serrations.

 

[va.grouseman]

KM, I was thinking yours must be a #60.---I've never seen a #50.---But if you have a #75 then there must be 6 sizes available.---#60--75--80--100--125--and 150.---Someone correct me if that's not right.

 

[drivesitfar]

FROG: if it makes you feel better i STILL DON'T OWN A YORK VICE and i would like to. nice find and WELL DONE!!

SQUIGGLES: nice looking Yost and ready for business now. keep your eye open for an old one on the other end of the bench because if you are posting on this thread 2 is barely enough vises (vices).

CW: i guess your choices for heating up metal would be determined by your space and the look you want but even a little Propane heated forge is good to start with and what most of the schools around here have their new students buy. PM me with your email and i'll try to find the forge that they use and email you a few pictures.

ALL: not sure i ever liked this style vise, but i like vises (vices) and i like anvils so finding a 4 inch one in pretty decent shape with a 1879 patent on it seems like something I should own and probably keep to go with my other Fulton vises. anybody heard of this company and the 66 year old seller got it from his dad and probably his dad's and the 66 year old mostly was a woodworker, but said he beat on this vise pretty good and i don't see any cracks.

 

[KMScott]

KM, I was thinking yours must be a #60.---I've never seen a #50.---But if you have a #75 then there must be 6 sizes available.---#60--75--80--100--125--and 150.---Someone correct me if that's not right.

va, yes you are right, my 50 is a 60 and my 75 is a 80mm jaw width. Should have measured them. I just assumed York went up in 25mm steps. 3-1/8 roughly is 80mm.

I am all excited welding up a stand for my 6-1/4 Parker. The new machine is giving me time to work on the fun stuff. Here is a sneak peak.

 

[trijeff]

I am all excited welding up a stand for my 6-1/4 Parker. The new machine is giving me time to work on the fun stuff. Here is a sneak peak.

Kevin, that stand and those jaws are amazing! But especially the stand, that is just incredible

 

[zoomieport]

Blue, just purchased my last one for my collection, took me a year to get the 50, 75, 100, 125 and 150 mm Yorks. I'll restore the whole lot at once. They are beefy vises.

On another note I was over at my welder friends shop and got the story on his 3" thick welding table with his 150mm York.

<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-RBffpKf/A"><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-RBffpKf/0/M/Steves%20stuff%20%285%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>

The 4 x 6 foot top came from a base plate off a old locomotive that crashed close by in our mountains. The rigger used a track torch to cut it into 4 pieces so they could drag it up the side of a mountain. He was lucky to be able to buy this one and a 2" thick top from the same wreckage.

<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-QFgXCv5/A"><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-QFgXCv5/0/M/Steves%20stuff%20%281%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>

Steve has been collecting vise in Estes Park for 35 years at garage sales. His collection hooked me.

<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-rsRTKCT/A"><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/Misc-Vises/i-rsRTKCT/0/M/Steves%20stuff%20%2813%29-M.jpg" alt=""></a>

Every time i visit Steve I see a new vise, antique or something real cool. Thought I would share these busy pictures and I hope you get the York Blue.

va, yes you are right, my 50 is a 60 and my 75 is a 80mm jaw width. Should have measured them. I just assumed York went up in 25mm steps. 3-1/8 roughly is 80mm.

I am all excited welding up a stand for my 6-1/4 Parker. The new machine is giving me time to work on the fun stuff. Here is a sneak peak.

Between that picture of your friends shop [WHERE'S WALDO? (the middle one)] and that stand, you are the MVP today, Kevin!

Those tables are MIND BLOWING!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[G-ManBart]

va, yes you are right, my 50 is a 60 and my 75 is a 80mm jaw width. Should have measured them. I just assumed York went up in 25mm steps. 3-1/8 roughly is 80mm.

I am all excited welding up a stand for my 6-1/4 Parker. The new machine is giving me time to work on the fun stuff. Here is a sneak peak.

That stand is awesome!

 

[G-ManBart]

Picked up a very dirty/rusty Parker 975 locally...jaws are in super nice shape. It actually looks like it was barely used, and just sat for years. Aside from the paint flaking off, and the surface rust, there aren't any gouges, big dents, or any pitting (I can see so far). I think this one is going to be gorgeous when it's done!

 

[zoomieport]

va, yes you are right, my 50 is a 60 and my 75 is a 80mm jaw width. Should have measured them. I just assumed York went up in 25mm steps. 3-1/8 roughly is 80mm.

I am all excited welding up a stand for my 6-1/4 Parker. The new machine is giving me time to work on the fun stuff. Here is a sneak peak.

What are you going to do for the handle? It looks like you could drill it out a bit and go larger?

I know you did that for me and it turned out GREAT!

What material will you use?

BTW, TJ is correct, those jaws are awesome!

 

[royce]

va, yes you are right, my 50 is a 60 and my 75 is a 80mm jaw width. Should have measured them. I just assumed York went up in 25mm steps. 3-1/8 roughly is 80mm.

I am all excited welding up a stand for my 6-1/4 Parker. The new machine is giving me time to work on the fun stuff. Here is a sneak peak.

KM,
Way cool stand.
I really like the depression you milled in the top.
Excellent.

Royce

 

[KMScott]

Kevin, that stand and those jaws are amazing! But especially the stand, that is just incredible

Thanks Jeff, steel came in today for new jaws and it is hard to stop what I am doing to get back to business. The jaws on this Parker are over 2" tall. The stand can be filled with sand and be very heavy. Gotta add set screws the the base plate so you can level it, gonna add hangers for hammers and stuff. Top plate is 1-1/2" thick.

That stand is awesome!

Thanks G-man, not as nice as a some on here but this guy will be a working stand.

What are you going to do for the handle? It looks like you could drill it out a bit and go larger, I know you did that for me and it turned out GREAT!

What material will you use?

BTW, TJ is correct, those jaws are awesome!

Thanks Zoomie, Just bored out the hole tonight for a 1" handle and made bronze balls at 1-3/4 round. Gonna look good. I also will fit a 7/16 set screw and a 3/8 ball to hold the heavy handle in place. The handle is made from 1144 cold formed CRS that has the steel grain running the length of the bar material, makes this steel pretty strong.

Zoomie, nice job on the 1750 you did. Did you mention the paint you used.

Picked up a very dirty/rusty Parker 975 locally...jaws are in super nice shape. It actually looks like it was barely used, and just sat for years. Aside from the paint flaking off, and the surface rust, there aren't any gouges, big dents, or any pitting (I can see so far). I think this one is going to be gorgeous when it's done!

G-Man, I wish I had that vise, can not wait to see it finished, will finish up great. Nice find. It's none of our business on what you bought it for but you earned a u-**** just on the condition even though ya gotta get a little dirty cleaning it.

 

[KMScott]

KM,
Way cool stand.
I really like the depression you milled in the top.
Excellent.

Royce

Means a lot ******* from you Royce, you are the master Stand Builder.

 

[Tomthumb717]

Nice find G-Man!

 

[zoomieport]

Thanks Zoomie, Just bored out the hole tonight for a 1" handle and made bronze balls at 1-3/4 round. Gonna look good. I also will fit a 7/16 set screw and a 3/8 ball to hold the heavy handle in place. The handle is made from 1144 cold formed CRS that has the steel grain running the length of the bar material, makes this steel pretty strong.

Zoomie, nice job on the 1750 you did. Did you mention the paint you used.

What "finish" are you going to do on the Vise?
How about the stand?
Any idea on the weight of the stand itself?

The paint is Snap-On OEM Electric Orange.

 

[zoomieport]

Nice find G-Man!

 

[KMScott]

What "finish" are you going to do on the Vise?
How about the stand?
Any idea on the weight of the stand itself?

The paint is Snap-On OEM Electric Orange.

zoomie, the steel weights over 250lbs and I designed it to be filled with sand, or what ever with a large hole in the center of the lower plate. I also added a 1/2:13 threaded hole to lift the stand without the vise mounted to set on a pallet to move. The 30" base will keep it from tipping.

I talked with Joe Stripper and decided to finish the vise with BLO the stand will be painted.