A couple more pedestal bases
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machine_punk
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Dude, that pulley is worth serious money on ebay right now. the decorators are going nuts over industrial stuff. you could get brand new material for your stand for what that pulley would bring.
Kdub.
Kdub.
tractordude
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I never gave disks a thought for bases.
I have a guy that just asked me if I wanted 20 of them the other day.
I've been buying steel wheels at auctions if I can get them cheap.
I have a guy that just asked me if I wanted 20 of them the other day.I've been buying steel wheels at auctions if I can get them cheap.
I never gave disks a thought for bases.
I've been buying steel wheels at auctions if I can get them cheap.
I've not used one for a vise stand, but think it would make good stand, that would be light weight, if you needed to move it regularly.
Here is a fun project with one as a base, a functioning nut cracker.
Royce
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I never gave disks a thought for bases.
I've been buying steel wheels at auctions if I can get them cheap.
I posted a pic of a shop with a whole row tools mounted on discs, looks cool. Ill try to find it.
drivesitfar
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Royce: always love watching you make cool looking and very functional stuff out of your scraps and bits and pieces you find. what is or was the nutcracker before you made it? looks pretty cool just hanging out on the deck.
i noticed your comment about beating on something in a vise with a hammer and i'm sure you are more cautious than most, but don't do it often or at all on the swivel jaw vises. they might not have cost you much, but since i don't know of a company making one any longer they are somewhat rare and will be more so as time goes on and more are broken or tossed by kids that don't have a clue how to use one that they inherited. of course you probably know the blacksmith vises were built to be hammered on so if you have one to set up for that purpose by all means hammer away. i've seen WAY TO MANY broken vises from abuse and a lot of times from guys that knew better.
just for an example i went to see a client that said he had a bunch of vises and had one that weighed 300 pounds. well i thought he might be exaggerating, but he had a big shop so I took a 90 minute drive for a visit. when i got there he had a 8 inch almost 300 pound REED 208 sitting on the floor, but it had so many braze welds on it from repairs it made me sad. his comment was that it was even better now than when he got it from his grandpa 30 years ago in almost new condition. he said every time he stuck an axle in it or a bumper and started hammering if it broke he'd bring out his torch, weld it up and just do the same thing again. sadly he turned a $2000 vise into a scrap piece that i didn't even offer him $50 for. yes these are tools, but i'm sure the kids and great grandkids that would like to use 100 or 200 year old tools in the future would love to use some in the nice condition we are still able to find a few in.
i know you've got room for a press and probably own an old anvil or RR track to beat on so in my opinion use your cool vises on even cooler stands with respect and what they were meant to be used for and they will last long past both of us.
you truly are a magician and i think even the term ARTIST is almost not good enough for the talent you have.
cheers and hope you get your addition framed, roofed and sided before your snow and cold arrive.
good luck
i noticed your comment about beating on something in a vise with a hammer and i'm sure you are more cautious than most, but don't do it often or at all on the swivel jaw vises. they might not have cost you much, but since i don't know of a company making one any longer they are somewhat rare and will be more so as time goes on and more are broken or tossed by kids that don't have a clue how to use one that they inherited. of course you probably know the blacksmith vises were built to be hammered on so if you have one to set up for that purpose by all means hammer away. i've seen WAY TO MANY broken vises from abuse and a lot of times from guys that knew better.
just for an example i went to see a client that said he had a bunch of vises and had one that weighed 300 pounds. well i thought he might be exaggerating, but he had a big shop so I took a 90 minute drive for a visit. when i got there he had a 8 inch almost 300 pound REED 208 sitting on the floor, but it had so many braze welds on it from repairs it made me sad. his comment was that it was even better now than when he got it from his grandpa 30 years ago in almost new condition. he said every time he stuck an axle in it or a bumper and started hammering if it broke he'd bring out his torch, weld it up and just do the same thing again. sadly he turned a $2000 vise into a scrap piece that i didn't even offer him $50 for. yes these are tools, but i'm sure the kids and great grandkids that would like to use 100 or 200 year old tools in the future would love to use some in the nice condition we are still able to find a few in.
i know you've got room for a press and probably own an old anvil or RR track to beat on so in my opinion use your cool vises on even cooler stands with respect and what they were meant to be used for and they will last long past both of us.
you truly are a magician and i think even the term ARTIST is almost not good enough for the talent you have.
cheers and hope you get your addition framed, roofed and sided before your snow and cold arrive.
good luck
Drives,
The nut cracker is made from 1-1/2",2",6"pipe, buttweld caps, flattened copper tube and copper wire.
I never commented about beating on something in a vise, I agreed with someone that uses hammers with their vises, because I have and will continue to use hammers and vises.
I have a early 80's vintage 450 wilton that I've used striking tools on for over 25 years and it is still a good vise.
For you you to suggest that I don't understand the structural limitations of a tool is plain wrong.
Thanks for the kind words, but please spare me your assumptions that somehow in your mind I'm not respecting my tools, that, by the way, are mine to use as I see fit.
Royce
The nut cracker is made from 1-1/2",2",6"pipe, buttweld caps, flattened copper tube and copper wire.
I never commented about beating on something in a vise, I agreed with someone that uses hammers with their vises, because I have and will continue to use hammers and vises.
I have a early 80's vintage 450 wilton that I've used striking tools on for over 25 years and it is still a good vise.
For you you to suggest that I don't understand the structural limitations of a tool is plain wrong.
Thanks for the kind words, but please spare me your assumptions that somehow in your mind I'm not respecting my tools, that, by the way, are mine to use as I see fit.
Royce
drivesitfar
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Royce: i knew you probably would take care of your tools and sorry if my post made it sound like i didn't respect you. i just grew up around loggers and guys that F'n destroyed vises and tools in general and that mentality is why we have very few of these great old tools left. it was more directed at the guys that read your thread than you and i apologize if you know how much hammering a vise can actually take before it breaks because all vises will break if mis treated as is evidence by all the repairs on the Vise Repair 101 thread.
the teachings of prior tool abusers is still very evident today cause my nephew was going to run his wheelbarrow on my Prentiss #22 swivel jaw sitting on the floor in my shop instead of moving an empty box on the other side before i spoke to him. his dad is one who will buy a new saw he really needed than leave it in the back of is pickup in the rain if you know what i mean.
sorry if i offended you and that wasn't the intention at all.
nice job on making the copper nutcracker too.
the teachings of prior tool abusers is still very evident today cause my nephew was going to run his wheelbarrow on my Prentiss #22 swivel jaw sitting on the floor in my shop instead of moving an empty box on the other side before i spoke to him. his dad is one who will buy a new saw he really needed than leave it in the back of is pickup in the rain if you know what i mean.
sorry if i offended you and that wasn't the intention at all.
nice job on making the copper nutcracker too.
zmaxmotorsports
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zmaxmotorsports
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Likely what you saw back then were men using tools to get a job done. The very definition of a tool.
While i'm not the type to use a screwdriver as a pry bar, I use tools everyday to get things done and I could care less how many of them are around for collectors 20 years from now.
I respect the fact that many on GJ collect old tools. That said, I will use a vise to hold just about anything while I beat, pry, torch, and otherwise manipulate a part. I have no issues. Its actually what a vise is for.
Capt Chrysler
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Wow!
This went sideways!
How about back to the bases?
Capt. Chrysler
This went sideways!
How about back to the bases?
Capt. Chrysler
Made some headway on these pedestals.
I found a 6"x2-1/2" reducing spool and a 2-1/2" s-spool that bolted up nicely to the flat belt pulley.
I just need to make a vise mount that adapts to the 2-1/2" flange.
For the plow disc, I found some 2-1/2"and 3" sch 80 that telescopes just right.
So I will probably make it vertically adjustable and rotate horizontally.
Royce
I found a 6"x2-1/2" reducing spool and a 2-1/2" s-spool that bolted up nicely to the flat belt pulley.
I just need to make a vise mount that adapts to the 2-1/2" flange.
For the plow disc, I found some 2-1/2"and 3" sch 80 that telescopes just right.
So I will probably make it vertically adjustable and rotate horizontally.
Royce
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Mr onetwo
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Good work....I love that offset vice stand!Brings back boiler room fab memories.
Super cool Royce. Your creations and visions inspire me to think outside the box when building something. Part of the joy I find (and seems like you do to) is taking the need or desire to increase the usability of a tool (i.e. stand for a vise) and not just making a stand but enjoying the process of creating something unique, creative and appealing to the eye.
I honestly have more fun doing these types of projects vs. benefitting from the increased utility of the tool when finished!
I honestly have more fun doing these types of projects vs. benefitting from the increased utility of the tool when finished!
Mr onetwo
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Very nice Royce!
I surely miss the days of laying out and fabricating a steam system on top of an Smith cast iron "porkchop!
