Ingersoll Rand Impact China?????

[Scotland Offshore ABZ]

I have just got a loan of this as a demonstrator.

We were looking to buy 50 x battery impact guns.The RRP is £664.

However, look what I find when I look for an OOC! China on the gun and Taiwan on the battery. It is a good gun but there is no way in hell I am paying that money for a Chinese made tool. I will be buying the Snap-On equivalent. I dont care how much more it costs.

My question is:

Are all IR tools made in China?

Has anyone used these sockets before and are they worth the price?

When did IR outsouce their (usually) excellent tools to be made in China?

 

[michelin]

OMG! Quick, wash your hands and call the Hazardous waste collection! Lol

Seriously, so what it's made in China? Apple makes all their gear there and hardly anyone complains.

Get over it.

 

[Scotland Offshore ABZ]

OMG! Quick, wash your hands and call the Hazardous waste collection! Lol

Seriously, so what it's made in China? Apple makes all their gear there and hardly anyone complains.

Get over it.

I care! I have to declare OOC when I issue a PO for something (Anti Slavery Policy). I dont want a 10 year old child in a sweat shop earning $2 a day making my tools, nor does my company.

 

[fos373]

I've been to many a Chinese factory - yet to see a 10 year old working.....

But, hey you know, stereo types exist for a reason.

 

[michelin]

I have to declare OOC when I issue a PO for something. I dont want a 10 year old child in a sweat shop earning $2 a day making my tools, nor does my company.

Declaring the COO is a common practice in my industry too. I can't see what it has to do with your concern though. Do you use a computer built in the USA/Europe to issue a PO? As for the child comment, you should address this with IR and see what they tell you.

 

[Scotland Offshore ABZ]

I work for Halliburton Oilfield Services UK and my PC was made in the USA. I have e-mailed my local IR dealer, we don't deal direct and have had no reply.

 

[Scotland Offshore ABZ]

I've been to many a Chinese factory - yet to see a 10 year old working.....

But, hey you know, stereo types exist for a reason.

Have you? When and where?

I have only been to China once in Guangzhou and child labor was common there, and I thought appalling. Everyone to their own though. I like to know where and how my tools and equipment are made. I have 2 children below the age of 5, and would hate to even imagine them being forced to work in a shithole factory making tools.

If you dont care where your equipment is made then I am genuinly disapointed in your procurement process.

 

[michelin]

I work for Halliburton Oilfield Services and my PC was made in the USA. I have e-mailed my local IR dealer, we don't deal direct and have had no reply.

Thanks for letting us know where you work. It helps to understand better why you don't want to pay for a product based on where it was assembled.

Care to take a picture of your US made PC? It must be very old.

 

[Scotland Offshore ABZ]

Thanks for letting us know where you work. It helps to understand better why you don't want to pay for a product based on where it was assembled.

Care to take a picture of your US made PC? It must be very old.

It is an ancient PC to be fair! What is wrong with Halliburton? I used to work for Apache and Weatherford as a tool pusher and AOIM. I presume you are in the Oil and Gas game too?

 

[michelin]

It is an ancient PC to be fair! What is wrong with Halliburton? I used to work for Apache and Weatherford as a tool pusher and AOIM. I presume you are in the Oil and Gas game too?

Nothing wrong with your place of work or what you do buddy. Doesn't grow on trees here either. I was a bit surprised by your initial comment that's all. As if you were only born yesterday! lol Irreversible process I'm afraid. Cost of labour makes it prohibitive to manufacture anywhere other than in China. But hey, they are getting better at it!

 

[jdlong]

Depends on the tool. Ingersoll Rand has plants all over the world including the USA where a good number of air tools and equipment are made. They also own a few subsidiaries such as Trane and Thermo King.

 

[Scotland Offshore ABZ]

Nothing wrong with your place of work or what you do buddy. Doesn't grow on trees here either. I was a bit surprised by your initial comment that's all. As if you were only born yesterday! lol Irreversible process I'm afraid. Cost of labour makes it prohibitive to manufacture anywhere other than in China. But hey, they are getting better at it!

Fair one buddy, no offense taken or intended

 

[Scotland Offshore ABZ]

Depends on the tool. Ingersoll Rand has plants all over the world including the USA where a good number of air tools and equipment are made. They also own a few subsidiaries such as Trane and Thermo King.

I didn't know that they made their tools overseas. You live and learn

 

[skookum1]

Where is the snap-on cordless impact made?

Also, depending on your definition of "Made in USA", there never has been a 100% American made PC. Some components have always been fabricated elsewhere and more so now obviously. It is possible to buy PC's that are assembled in the USA, which is like Dewalt saying "Made in USA with global components", but the concern of unfair labor practices was already done before the components were received in the USA.

 

[nickjj]

Where is the snap-on cordless impact made?

My one is made in China.

 

[Scotland Offshore ABZ]

Where is the snap-on cordless impact made?

Also, depending on your definition of "Made in USA", there never has been a 100% American made PC. Some components have always been fabricated elsewhere and more so now obviously. It is possible to buy PC's that are assembled in the USA, which is like Dewalt saying "Made in USA with global components", but the concern of unfair labor practices was already done before the components were received in the USA.

Pass regarding the PC, I know nothing about computers. It just says Made in the USA on the back. The Impacts as far as I know are made by Sioux in Ohio. The Snap-On rep showed me the OOC cert and it says USA on it.

 

[KLO101489]

Snap On cordless impacts are made in China. I believe you are referring to the pneumatics by the Sioux reference. Are you shopping cordless and pneumatic?

 

[skookum1]

Pass regarding the PC, I know nothing about computers. It just says Made in the USA on the back. The Impacts as far as I know are made by Sioux in Ohio. The Snap-On rep showed me the OOC cert and it says USA on it.

Is that cordless or air? I thought Sioux only made pneumatic stuff. If it is air, it isnt really a fair comparison. I am pretty sure the IR air impacts are made in usa, or assembled in usa at the least.

 

[stikman56]

Pass regarding the PC, I know nothing about computers. It just says Made in the USA on the back. The Impacts as far as I know are made by Sioux in Ohio. The Snap-On rep showed me the OOC cert and it says USA on it.

The Snap-on batteries and chargers are made in China and Taiwan. Yet people buy them and pay PREMIUM prices for them too. I just sold a Snap-On cordless impact kit minutes ago.

 

[michelin]

Is that cordless or air? I thought Sioux only made pneumatic stuff. If it is air, it isnt really a fair comparison. I am pretty sure the IR air impacts are made in usa, or assembled in usa at the least.

Some older IR air stuff (I crossing R logo) was also made in Japan. Not sure about today to be honest.

 

[TK-421]

Last I checked, Snap-On battery impacts were made in the far east. However, rather than assuming, which you know what that does, and basing your assumptions on absolutely nothing factual and purely on stereotypes, have you bothered to ask IR where their factories are located and what kind of wage they pay and what age group of people they hire there? You might learn something surprising, as I have very little doubt that your baseless assumptions are nothing more than hogwash.

Oh, and your assumption that something is junk simply due to the fact that it's made in china is hilarious. It doesn't matter where in the world it comes from, if you pay for junk then you're going to get junk, if you pay for quality then you're far more likely to get quality. With IR you're paying for quality, and you're getting quality, even their stuff that isn't made in the USA. So you shouldn't have any issues whatsoever about buying a cordless IR impact. You know, seeing as how thousands upon thousands of other people have nothing but praise to give about IR cordless impacts.

 

[Fedwrench]

Off the top of my head, I can't think of a cordless impact wrench that isn't made in China.

Most of IR's pneumatic impact wrenches are at least assembled in the USA with global components. There are exceptions though. IR's stubby impact wrenches are made in the PRC.

 

[bobcatdan]

The majority of IR's stuff is imported so I don't see why the cordless is a surprise. I dont think I own one IR air tool that isnt imported. As for SO, all I can say is all of my 18v ni-cad says assembled in USA, batteries made in Japan. The 7.2v **** is all China. I can't speak for the lin ion.

 

[Art From De Leon]

It is an ancient PC to be fair! What is wrong with Halliburton? I used to work for Apache and Weatherford as a tool pusher and AOIM. I presume you are in the Oil and Gas game too?

Is Matt Betts still in the office? I worked out of Aberdeen from late 1988, (after a trip or two out of Great Yarmouth), till mid 1992.

Better yet, is the Kirkhill Lodge still in existense?

 

[Monte]

Welcome to the 21st century

 

[Derek420]

Almost all battery powered tools are made in China including Matco ,Makita, Milwaukee ,Metabo, Panasonic, Rigid, IR makes Matcos by the way. I'm sure there is more made there but just about every highend battery powered tool is made there and batteries are from Japan usually. I have makita, Marco and snap on and love them all! Don't judge where it was made but judge how good it feels and works. Look at some of warranties on China made stuff like Milwaukee now look at USA snap on 5 years to 1.

 

[shockwave]

Most if not all cordless tools are made in China these days even snap on plain in simple it's the manufacturer that will design a quality product usually in home country

Like mentioned all modern electronics are made in China let it be cell phone tv or drill to automotive scan tools aswell

 

[anndel]

My Snap On CT8850 is Made in the USA most likely with foreign components. The batteries are Made in Taiwan and the charger Made in China. That may be the route you have to take is you want Made in the USA.

 

[stikman56]

My Snap On CT8850 is Made in the USA most likely with foreign components. The batteries are Made in Taiwan and the charger Made in China. That may be the route you have to take is you want Made in the USA.

Yep, I think this is as close as you're going to get. For the money and the torque there are much less expensive options out there, you just have to be able live with the fact that they are made overseas if you chose them. I really like my Milwaukee stuff,I'm sure it's made in China, not concerned, I like the construction easy parts change-out, lower part prices,size, torque,and price of the tools. Nothing at all against the Snap-On tools though, I've had and used them for years.

 

[Skin]

My Snap On CT8850 is Made in the USA most likely with foreign components. The batteries are Made in Taiwan and the charger Made in China. That may be the route you have to take is you want Made in the USA.

More of it is USA made than you think. Only big component of the actual impact imported is the motor and I think the hammer assembly. Housing, anvil, and circuitry carry USA coo. Still a piece of garbage. Babied mine and the trigger assembly went out after very little use, and the same thing happened to my 8810. For over $700 and 1 year warranty they can keep it. If you're going to charge a mint at least make sure its superior to the competition.

Only stuff I've kept of cordless Snap-On is 14.4V which, ironically, is Chinese made and excellent (still not worth MSRP).

 

[ClineWrench]

Skookum1: you mentioned that there has never been a PC entirely made in the USA. That would be incorrect. In fact my Uncle Rodney ran a company that engineers the computers this country uses to control and intra connect missle defense systems.

Every single part (processors, micro processors, screw, stand offs...everything) is made in the USA. The reason has a lot less to do with pride of USA made components and more to do with national security (wouldn't want a Chinese micro processor with a mole inside placed into our missle defense systems).

So while it's true that most computers are from parts of the world, and some are even assembled in USA with globally sourced parts, it's also true that there are completely USA made computers.

On that note, it's also worth mentioning that your pocket Book is going to take a serious hit if you are going for a USA made computer.

 

[yevangelis]

welsch, instead of declaring 'China' on the form, write 'PRC' and you should feel more better.

just out of curiosity i just checked Panasonic's impact and it's also Chicom, so we the people are screwed

 

[Crawlin]

Snap On has a power tool plant in Murphy, NC. I had a 3/8" impact rebuilt there, Not sure if my 18v impact was made there, but they must all be assembled there with the global components I would think.

 

[Monte]

maybe you´ll have luck with Bosch. They still might be assembled in the US.

 

[Duster346]

Ingersoll Rand Impact China?????

Correct.

 

[kngelv]

Nothing wrong with your place of work or what you do buddy. Doesn't grow on trees here either. I was a bit surprised by your initial comment that's all. As if you were only born yesterday! lol Irreversible process I'm afraid. Cost of labour makes it prohibitive to manufacture anywhere other than in China. But hey, they are getting better at it!

The cost of labour is actually pretty low for most manufacturing industries. Somewhere between five and ten percent.

James

 

[Skin]

maybe you´ll have luck with Bosch. They still might be assembled in the US.

For our market the vast majority of Bosch comes from Malaysia.

As I tried to hint at though, COO (whether you see it as good or bad) is no representation of quality.

 

[skookum1]

That is a good point. I am sure other government programs with sensitive information or automated combat systems do the same thing (NASA, fighter jets, missiles, etc). I work in development in the tech industry and that is not the case for design and manufacturing or protecting IP. They must survive purely off government contracts. There has never been a 100% american made personal computer (IE, available to the public) as far as I know. I assumed he was talking about an office computer

Skookum1: you mentioned that there has never been a PC entirely made in the USA. That would be incorrect. In fact my Uncle Rodney ran a company that engineers the computers this country uses to control and intra connect missle defense systems.

Every single part (processors, micro processors, screw, stand offs...everything) is made in the USA. The reason has a lot less to do with pride of USA made components and more to do with national security (wouldn't want a Chinese micro processor with a mole inside placed into our missle defense systems).

So while it's true that most computers are from parts of the world, and some are even assembled in USA with globally sourced parts, it's also true that there are completely USA made computers.

On that note, it's also worth mentioning that your pocket Book is going to take a serious hit if you are going for a USA made computer.

 

[Farmall450]

Unless you get a USA assembled Dewalt (assuming they offer them) you're kinda out of luck unless there is a German alternative. (Festool, Metabo maybe Fein)

 

[nickjj]

Makita LXT needed, made in Telford