WhiffySpark
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The rotary 12k lift has much longer arms. You would be able to hit your lift points easily. He'll I had a e350 diesel up on one the other day. Full of **** in the service body too lol
BendPak XPR-10A * 2000 F150 SuperCab
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WhiffySpark,
You're missing the point.
Without knowing that this limitation is a very real possibility, one can be blissfully unaware that one needs to ask. Without asking there is no reason to assume that a 12K lift would have materially longer arms than a 10K lift.
The reason I purchased the BendPak is because I didn't ask the question about the length of the arms. It never occurred to me that a 10K lift wouldn't have arms long enough to reach the most-popular-vehicle-in-the-USA's recommended lift points.
I wouldn't have asked that question if I had bought a Rotary 12K either. I just would have gotten lucky.
Again, I hope that this discussion will cause folks considering a 2-post lift to ask questions and find out the limitations of the arms.
I had seen discussions of the front arms being too long in the narrow configuration to catch some vehicles lift points. I hadn't seen anything about not being long enough when I was researching the issue.
Best regards,
Scott
Best regards,
Scott
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duwem
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Did the Benpak folks discuss the narrow vs wide configuration with you?
My thought was wider is better, more room to get out and more room to work, but sounds like this limits the useful length of the arms. Although 6" wider per side isn't going to significantly affect the arms useful length, might just be extreme conditions like x cab long box where its an issue??
My thought was wider is better, more room to get out and more room to work, but sounds like this limits the useful length of the arms. Although 6" wider per side isn't going to significantly affect the arms useful length, might just be extreme conditions like x cab long box where its an issue??
killahog
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Scott; How far apart are your columns?
zkdiesel
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Yes you did know limitations
They market asymmetrical lifts as car and short trucks, symmetrical lifts being aimed at heavier rear wheel drive and long wheelbase vehicles
Yet you still purchased a asymmetrical
Crew cab dually long bed Chevy on my symmetrical rotoray 12k(rotary 10 k symmetrical with 3 stage arm lot has same arms)
kinigitt
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I, for one, am glad this thread exists. Down the line, I'm going to be needing a two-post lift. I've been casually researching the pros and cons of each, and this is the first legitimate, quantifiable complaint about the bendpaks I've read about. Most are general complaints about cylinder wear, etc.
Good to know!
Thanks for the words of encouragement!
In post 36 I indicated that I was going to ask BendPak if they had actually tested the solution that they had proposed in the same post.
On Wednesday I received the following response from BendPak:
Hello Scott,
Another scenario would be to send 2 medium arms for the front no charge.
They are about 6” longer. This is what we have seen done in the past in these situations.
You would split the difference and jockey the truck until you can hit the vehicle lift points.
Please provide the lift serial number and ship-to street address, city, state, zip.
I was out of the country when I got that email. When I got home last night I obtained the serial number of my lift and sent it to BendPak.
Today I had an email indicating that the new arms were being sent to my home and should arrive late next week.
EDIT: 15 Oct 2016 - I just looked at the SO (Shipping Order?) that accompanied the email. It seems to have been processed as a Warranty Claim.
Scott
In post 36 I indicated that I was going to ask BendPak if they had actually tested the solution that they had proposed in the same post.
On Wednesday I received the following response from BendPak:
Hello Scott,
Another scenario would be to send 2 medium arms for the front no charge.
They are about 6” longer. This is what we have seen done in the past in these situations.
You would split the difference and jockey the truck until you can hit the vehicle lift points.
Please provide the lift serial number and ship-to street address, city, state, zip.
I was out of the country when I got that email. When I got home last night I obtained the serial number of my lift and sent it to BendPak.
Today I had an email indicating that the new arms were being sent to my home and should arrive late next week.
EDIT: 15 Oct 2016 - I just looked at the SO (Shipping Order?) that accompanied the email. It seems to have been processed as a Warranty Claim.
Scott
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shelteredV
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well thanks for posting this, I too bought this lift armed with only my own research and no real world information. I thought it would check all the boxes for me, and now in practical use, *****. I shoulda bought a 12k rotary. I have 2 scab fords, a 87 GMC, and a couple of very low cars that see regular service. It seems that everything I put on this lift has been a pain in the ***. I haven't tried contacting BP yet just because I haven't made the time. I appreciate you doing the legwork and I'm going to ask for the medium arms. To spend 600.00 for the long arms just rubs me wrong. I think they should offer those at no charge.
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well thanks for posting this, I too bought this lift armed with only my own research and no real world information. I thought it would check all the boxes for me, and now in practical use, *****. I shoulda bought a 12k rotary. I have 2 scab fords, a 87 GMC, and a couple of very low cars that see regular service. It seems that everything I put on this lift has been a pain in the ***. I haven't tried contacting BP yet just because I haven't made the time. I appreciate you doing the legwork and I'm going to ask for the medium arms. To spend 600.00 for the long arms just rubs me wrong. I think they should offer those at no charge.
sheltered,
I was looking at your picture. Does your lift's forward arms (short arms) have 3 segments? Mine does but in your picture it looks like yours only have 2 segments. (Maybe I just can't see the third one) If yours only have 2 segments, may I ask when you bought your XPR-10A?
Best regards,
Scott
WhiffySpark
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Unless you're working on service bodies or mud trucks narrow is fine 99% of the time
Radix2
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Scott - thanks for posting this! You are asking the exact questions that need to be asked.
And for the guys posting their shop experience or git er done workarounds - thank you too. This is the best way to figure out how serious the recommended way should be followed.
And for the guys posting their shop experience or git er done workarounds - thank you too. This is the best way to figure out how serious the recommended way should be followed.
shelteredV
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I bought it in March of this year. It has 2 section arms, the front being 38" fully extended from the face of the mounting boss. The rear is 52" out. I have 94" between the inner most part of the posts.
bobmulry
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Hi All,
I am just getting ready to order my BendPak lift.....
I was going to order the XPR-10AS-LP but I also looked at the specs for the XPR-10AS.....
What I found was very interesting.....
SPECS:
XPR-10AS-LP
Front Arm Length 23 1/2" to 38 1/2"
Rear Arm Length 34 1/2" to 54 1/2"
Pad Height 4.25"
XPR-10AS
Front Arm Length 23 1/2" to 45 1/2"
Rear Arm Length 42 1/2" to 60"
Pad Height 4.25"
Next week I am ordering an XPR-10AS because the front arms with the same collapsed length as the LP will extend 7" further and the rear arms will extend 6" further with a difference of 8" in the collapsed length and the same pad height.....
I believe that the XPR-10AS is a better all round fit for my current and future needs.....
Take care,
Bob
PS:
They don't manufacture the XPR-10A anymore it was replaced by the XPR-10AS which also has adjustable screw type lifting pads..................
I am just getting ready to order my BendPak lift.....
I was going to order the XPR-10AS-LP but I also looked at the specs for the XPR-10AS.....
What I found was very interesting.....
SPECS:
XPR-10AS-LP
Front Arm Length 23 1/2" to 38 1/2"
Rear Arm Length 34 1/2" to 54 1/2"
Pad Height 4.25"
XPR-10AS
Front Arm Length 23 1/2" to 45 1/2"
Rear Arm Length 42 1/2" to 60"
Pad Height 4.25"
Next week I am ordering an XPR-10AS because the front arms with the same collapsed length as the LP will extend 7" further and the rear arms will extend 6" further with a difference of 8" in the collapsed length and the same pad height.....
I believe that the XPR-10AS is a better all round fit for my current and future needs.....
Take care,
Bob
PS:
They don't manufacture the XPR-10A anymore it was replaced by the XPR-10AS which also has adjustable screw type lifting pads..................
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I wonder if things have changed with the arm length on the new lifts? Posted this in another thread but here it is again..
I have a new XPR-10AS-168 that I just installed. I have it in the wide configuration, the narrowest vehicle I have lifted was a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Had no problem finding lift points on it. Largest was a 07 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel quad cab long bed, no problems with it either.
I have a new XPR-10AS-168 that I just installed. I have it in the wide configuration, the narrowest vehicle I have lifted was a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Had no problem finding lift points on it. Largest was a 07 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel quad cab long bed, no problems with it either.
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camarosrus69
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It sounds like the "medium arms" that BP is sending you are the "longer short arms" I mentioned on your other thread after searching the BP specs the other day. It's surprising that they didn't come up with this solution immediately. Well I'm glad they're covering the cost for you, and hope this does the trick. Good luck.
The low profile arms are 2 section only, these look like lp arms.
My local bendpak dealer was suggesting to get the standard arms vs lp because of this. Just because she said this I'm sure they get feedback on it.
Here is a link, specs in one place. http://www.bendpak.com.au/Car-Hoists/Two-Post-Hoists/Arm_Reach_Comparison_XPR_vs_XPR-LP.pdf
Other than that, how is everyone liking their bendpak lift?
duwem
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Interesting. So your lifting a 1 ton quad cab long box on an asymmetric lift?
Got a pict of it on there?
Did you go with the 168 for lifted vehicles? My understanding is the arms still go up the same amount just that there is more top clearance for sprinter vans.