Vintage Crimper/Stripper Logo ID help

[Private Lugnutz]

I feel like I've seen this logo before, but I can't identify it. Anybody know it?

 

[bill300d]

You are probably thinking of the Woodings Verona mark but I don't think that is it. My best guess would be Hercules Powder beings that is a pair of cap crimper/fuse cutter pliers

 

[woody 73]

I was under the impression that it was a strong man holding a club but stranger things could be at work???

http://herculeshistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HerculesDecal.jpg

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The Woodings Verona Tool Works logo is actually a monogram - all of the first letters in the full company name (W, V, T, and W) on top of each other. This doesn't look like a monogram to me.

I didn't provide a close-up of the non logo side, but if anyone is having trouble seeing it in that first pic, it has "M2 CAP CRIMPER" cast into it.

This was in a military surplus lot with mainly 1940's Ordnance Dept and USAAF tools and equipment. I was thinking it was the Mfgr's symbol, but it might be a military logo. It's not an Ordnance Dept symbol that I know of, but I could be wrong.

 

[Provincial]

It looks like a tool for cutting det cord and crimping caps on the end. The sharpened end o the handle is for poking a hole in the explosive to place the cap in. Combat engineer tool?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It's definitely a powder punch on the upper handle.

I'm not a Corps of Engineers collector, but I'll have to go through my resources to see if that's where I have seen that symbol. I do have a couple empty boxes down the basement.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It could be Heiley Filson. If the logo is sideways, with the numbers, it looks like a stylized H and stylized F stuck together. And Heiley Filson made cap crimpers for Army demolition kits.

 

[Bruce Lancaster]

There were probably lots of makers for the demo kit pliers over the decades, and these are sort of low-end tools that came with the kit of explosives and caps and wire, single mission sets. A military engineer engineer specializing in loud noises would likely have had a much higher quality tool. Now, what do they have? I've seen Gerber multitools with the spike and special crimper discussed as a military model...I don't know if they are actually issue.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

There were probably lots of makers for the demo kit pliers over the decades, and these are sort of low-end tools that came with the kit of explosives and caps and wire, single mission sets.

That's true, Bruce. The most common I have seen were Wm. Schollhorn, a major supplier of all kinds of hand tools to the Corps of Engineers. And all the companies supplying other blasting kit materials, including the explosives, such as the aforementioned Hercules, and Atlas, etc, as well as DuPont, had M2 crimpers in their kits. Although I suspect the crimpers were made and branded for them by someone else.

I had never heard of Heiley Filson before. An off-line friend tipped me off.

A military engineer specializing in loud noises would likely have had a much higher quality tool.

I have the 1940 and 1945 FM 5-25 and there is no other more sophisticated multi-tool shown or listed. I could be wrong, but as far as I know, the basic M2 - with the cutter/stripper and crimper on the business end, and the spike and screwdriver tips on the ends of the handles - was as 'multi' as it got for sappers at all levels, for all demolition or breaching missions, during WWII.

Per the manual they were 6-1/2" long and parkerized, although some period images and examples seem to be either plain steel or perhaps sheradized or galvanized.

Here are some images of WWII demo kits showing the crimper:

And judging by the images in the 1967 FM 5-25, it hadn't changed much leading into Vietnam, either.

I'm thinking my Heiley Filson most closely resembles the model shown in that late 60's FM.

Now, what do they have? I've seen Gerber multitools with the spike and special crimper discussed as a military model...I don't know if they are actually issue.

I belive this is the Gerber multi-tool that PM-SKOT puts in all Sapper Packs today:
http://www.gerber-tools.com/Gerber-Multi-Plier-600-det.htm