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Firewood Kart

aka Larry

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Earlier this year I cannibalized my old garden kart for another project. I still need to haul the wood from outside into the shop so I needed a new kart. HF has a garden kart for about $80, and I guess I could have gone that route, but it would need to be modified to work, and besides, where's the fun in that? Yep, it was time to design and build my own.

I started with a trip to acquire new wheels. Luckily my timing worked out as they happened to be on sale for just $4.00 each where they are regularly $6.49. I already had some 1" square tubing, but I had to use Lowes for some 1" flat bar and other hardware.

Since this cart would have four wheels, I would need to build an actual steering system. I started with the spindles which were built using 1" square tube, 1" flat bar, 1/2" flat bar, 1/2" tubing, and 5/8"x4" bolts.


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Next I used more 1" square tubing and welded the spindles onto the ends to form the front axle beam:

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Here's the front steering system and axle all assembled:

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I decided to get a little fancy and include ackerman steering, which turns the inside wheel at a steeper angle that the outside one based on the geometry between all the links. Notice the difference as shown here:


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Wheels in place straight ahead:


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Wheels turned with ackerman effect.


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Rear axle:

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Starting the frame:

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More frame progress:


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Axle assemblies added to frame:


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It's a roller!


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Building the handle. Started with some 1" flat bar and made a few relief cut so I could bend into shape:

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Added a piece of 1/2" pipe in between and welded it all together:


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Installed on the kart:


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Removable uprights in place and ready for a load test:


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Loaded up:


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The test went fine and I was able to pull and steer with no problem. That much wood is a heavy load, but it will save me a few trips I'm sure. I still need to prime and paint it, but a couple of other projects took priority this weekend. I'm going to try and get the painting done this week.
 
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creativecars

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Looks great!!!

I built a similar thing for the kids to use as a push cart. Sometimes they push each other around, other times is has hauled sticks, potting soil, cats and fort building supplies.

I suggest to give those tires/tubes about 4 oz of 'slime' sealant each. It gives them a little protection against thorns and small nails.
 
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Thanks man. One drawback to these tires seems to be they are always losing air after a few weeks so adding the slime might be a good idea.
 

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Nice build. I was thinking of something similar but with taller wood stack height and a cover (like the old Depot hacks). Then maybe add a gas engine, seat,......
 

53Sparky

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Nice Job! That looks like it's going to save you a lot of work.

Hopefully you got all the Ackerman angles all figured out, or she's going to be really unstable at highway speed.

:)
 
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Nice Job! That looks like it's going to save you a lot of work.

Hopefully you got all the Ackerman angles all figured out, or she's going to be really unstable at highway speed.

:)

Thanks. LOL, yeah I knew I didn't need the Ackerman, but I wanted to build it that way just for fun and learn a little about it in the process.
 

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Thanks. LOL, yeah I knew I didn't need the Ackerman, but I wanted to build it that way just for fun and learn a little about it in the process.

Nice looking cart. At the start of the thread I seen the detail you were going to and was surprised that you did not use an articulated front axle with a wishbone.. The articulated axle makes a lot easier to pull by not having to tilt the whole wagon for one wheel to go over an obstruction.

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Before you goto the Slime just try different valves.

THIS ^
Great build - wow- but RE the tires and good valve stems.

I just got done reviving one of my log-splitter tires.
It was just a little low on air pressure, and then the fun began:...
I could not put air in it because the previously installed Slime had locked up the valve stem core. Even after taking OUT the core (in 2 pieces), I could not add air, because of Slime.
I finally punched through, replaced the core, all good.
 
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Before you goto the Slime just try different valves.

Dang, I never thought of that. Thanks for the tip!


To keep up with GJ standards, doesn't it need to be powder coated?:bounce:


If it wasn't cost prohibitive, I would have liked to do just that. Priming and paint 1" square tubing is kind of a pain, not to mention all the paint lost due to overspray. I primed it with self-etching primer and used Rustoleum Professional Satin Black for the top coat last night.


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kbs2244

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I would think Ackermann steering geometry would be a bit of overkill for this kind of speed and weight.
 

tcianci

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The steering geometry he employed actually makes the cart much more stable and less likely to tip over when the wheels are cut all the way than if he had used a simple straight axle wagon steering arrangement
 

cnc-me

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Thanks man. One drawback to these tires seems to be they are always losing air after a few weeks so adding the slime might be a good idea.

Go with tubes, slime just makes a mess, and you'll end up putting in tubes anyway.
 
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