No Snap On guarantee for wrench?

[plout99]

Did Snap on ever sell wrenches with no guarantee? I bought some flare/line wrenches at a fle market and one of them is stamped " no guare " under the model# on the back side. Just curious.

 

[Sco Deac]

Snap On did not offer warranties on products sold to the government. In exchange for a lower purchase price, the government waived any warranties.

 

[HomeTheaterMan]

As said, government sold items. The warranty also only applies to the original owner, so really anything you bought at the flea market has no warranty.

 

[Cope]

I have a set of Snap-on line wrenches from 1/4"-1 1/8" made in 1968 and all are marked no guar. I bought them from a man who had been an aircraft mechanic and was changing professions.

 

[vavet]

If they're ex-government property, the purchasing folks probably knew the mechanics were more likely to lose them than to break them...hence the gamble.

I was a maintenance officer in the Army.

 

[ssdave]

I have a bunch of SO carburetor sockets that are marked no guarantee. For Stromberg carbureters, I presume from the 50's or 60's.

 

[JUNK-MAN]

As said were probably sold to the government, If you break one just warranty it and say you don't remember were you got it.

 

[ryan20021982]

If they're ex-government property, the purchasing folks probably knew the mechanics were more likely to lose them than to break them...hence the gamble.

I was a maintenance officer in the Army.

In the event that they're ex-government property, the acquiring people presumably knew the mechanics will probably lose them than to break them...hence the bet.

Really?

 

[rlitman]

Snap On did not offer warranties on products sold to the government. In exchange for a lower purchase price, the government waived any warranties.

Over the years, they've had a number of these sort of deals.
Sometimes a model will be stamped with a G for government. Sometimes a wrench will be made in black oxide instead of chrome. I believe they've also sold tools in large industrial contracts with the same no guarantee.

 

[d.mcfarland]

As said were probably sold to the government, If you break one just warranty it and say you don't remember were you got it.

Classic. Works every time. Guaranteed. Sarcasm.

 

[ptschram]

This is where the relationship you have with your Snap-On Franchisee comes into play.

If you are a customer of mine and you break a tool labeled like that, you're likely to get it warrantied and replaced with a new one.

If you jump on the truck and rudely demand a replacement, you are less likely to get the results you desire.

 

[3baygarage]

I don't think the "No Guar" tools have anything to do with the government.

I have picked up a number of old tools with the stamp including hex bit sockets, flexible extensions, tie rod separator, socket adapters, to name a few .

Read this here:

http://www.collectingsnapon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28

 

[WWheeler]

I have an old Snap-on Ferret F-70N 3/8 ratchet that has a 'G' stamped on it that as I understand a G or E code meant it was a WWII era tool and is not covered under Snap-on's warranty but I don't think that's the same thing as the OP's 'No guare' stamp.

 

[gte718p]

I work for the government and buy a lot of SnapOn. Someone wrote the requirements so that I pretty much have to buy a truck brand. One of the requirements is that they carry a lifetime warranty and have a service contract.

 

[McFarmer]

I work for the government and buy a lot of SnapOn. Someone wrote the requirements so that I pretty much have to buy a truck brand. One of the requirements is that they carry a lifetime warranty and have a service contract.

So then it would be the lifetime of the government then ?

 

[ptschram]

I don't think the "No Guar" tools have anything to do with the government.

I have picked up a number of old tools with the stamp including hex bit sockets, flexible extensions, tie rod separator, socket adapters, to name a few .

Read this here:

http://www.collectingsnapon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28

They most definitely do and frequently have a different part number as well.

 

[ptschram]

Those that are sold to the military with no warranty are sold in HUGE lot loads annd as a result, they are sold for much less-with the understanding that there is no warranty.

 

[ptschram]

I have an old Snap-on Ferret F-70N 3/8 ratchet that has a 'G' stamped on it that as I understand a G or E code meant it was a WWII era tool and is not covered under Snap-on's warranty but I don't think that's the same thing as the OP's 'No guare' stamp.

You'll also find them with a part number beginning with V for victory if they were WWII vintage.

There are also 5/8 drive impact tools that were military as well.

 

[gte718p]

So then it would be the lifetime of the government then ?

Life of the Navy, SnapOn, or the tool which ever comes first? Really not sure. Most of them are lost or stolen long before the tool wears out.

We are served by in industrial rep. Great guy. I'm sure he is making bank. He warranties our tools, calibrates all of our torque wrenches, and will also warranty personnel tools. I've told the story here of needing a 5" socket before. I've forgotten the exact price, but it was obscenely expensive. Without it a dive team that costs $20k an hour was sidelined. He had the socket in about an hour. Probably not something you average dealer has sitting on the shelf.

 

[ptschram]

Life of the Navy, SnapOn, or the tool which ever comes first? Really not sure. Most of them are lost or stolen long before the tool wears out.

We are served by in industrial rep. Great guy. I'm sure he is making bank. He warranties our tools, calibrates all of our torque wrenches, and will also warranty personnel tools. I've told the story here of needing a 5" socket before. I've forgotten the exact price, but it was obscenely expensive. Without it a dive team that costs $20k an hour was sidelined. He had the socket in about an hour. Probably not something you average dealer has sitting on the shelf.

Trust me, he didn't have it on the shelf. Industrial guys typically have very little inventory and the fact that he can fix stuff without having to sennd it in or have it shipped is VERY rare for industrial guys.

 

[gte718p]

Trust me, he didn't have it on the shelf. Industrial guys typically have very little inventory and the fact that he can fix stuff without having to sennd it in or have it shipped is VERY rare for industrial guys.

From phone call to in my hand was less then an hour. If he didn't have it on the shelf, then I have serious under estimated Snappy's logistics organization.

He doesn't have the normal Snappy truck. He drive a white Camery

 

[K-Dog]

As said, government sold items. The warranty also only applies to the original owner, so really anything you bought at the flea market has no warranty.

Someone lied to you.

 

[shockwave]

With this regard snap on is very forgiving on warranty and most companies like to see proof of purchase or tool abuse of limited lifetime warranty

But a lot of early snap on did not have warranty

 

[HomeTheaterMan]

Someone lied to you.

Here is their official warranty policy:
https://www1.snapon.com/display/termsofsale.nws

About midway through section 2 it says "This warranty only extends to the original Customer and cannot be transferred or assigned."

If you call them and tell them you bought it used they will tell you this same thing. If you try to warranty a bunch they may start asking for proof of purchase. Some drivers won't warranty used tools, while others don't care.

 

[Junkman]

Aircraft industry uses only black wrenches, because they can't gamble chrome breaking off and contaminating anything. The buy in bulk, and there is no warranty on the tools. Blue Point tools also don't have a lifetime warranty, according to the Snap On dealer that I had dealt with. That is why every tool has a date mark, so they can identify problems years later. Also, if you wear out a tool, that means that its lifetime is over. The warranty is only as good as your dealer.

 

[nickelmore]

So then it would be the lifetime of the government then ?

And since they were bought with "my" tax paying funds....can I be considered as the original purchaser for warranty? LOL

 

[rlitman]

...Blue Point tools also don't have a lifetime warranty, according to the Snap On dealer that I had dealt with...

No. Blue Point hand tools carry the same warranty as Snap On.

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

Aircraft industry uses only black wrenches, because they can't gamble chrome breaking off and contaminating anything. The buy in bulk, and there is no warranty on the tools. Blue Point tools also don't have a lifetime warranty, according to the Snap On dealer that I had dealt with. That is why every tool has a date mark, so they can identify problems years later. Also, if you wear out a tool, that means that its lifetime is over. The warranty is only as good as your dealer.

Can't speak for the entire industry... but chrome plated tools are used during build/maintenance of Black Hawks A lot of it was Snap-On, but its slowly being replaced.

 

[Junkman]

Friend that works at Pratt & Whitney told me that all they use are black Snap On tools. I purchased a few used dead blow hammers from the West coast, and the seller told me that they came from Boeing surplus sales, since they can't use them when the face of the hammer gets marred to the point where plastic starts to chip off of them. That was about 10 years ago, with the orange handle units. Eventually, the handles on those cracked, and have been replaced with the newer red ones.

 

[ptschram]

Blue Point tools also don't have a lifetime warranty, according to the Snap On dealer that I had dealt with. That is why every tool has a date mark, so they can identify problems years later. Also, if you wear out a tool, that means that its lifetime is over. The warranty is only as good as your dealer.

Apparently you did not have a very good dealer as hard-line (chrome) Blue-Point stuff is indeed lifetime.

As far as worn out tools, this is dependent upon not only the local franchisee, but also that franchisee's Business Manager. My former Business Manager was adamant about honoring warranty. When he'd ride with me, if I made any sort of comment other than "here's your replacement tool" I caught Hell! He didn't even like me expressing surprise over a broken tool or asking how it was broken.

 

[ptschram]

From phone call to in my hand was less then an hour. If he didn't have it on the shelf, then I have serious under estimated Snappy's logistics organization.

He doesn't have the normal Snappy truck. He drive a white Camery

Not only did you get lucky he had it, or access to it, (I suspect that this may have been a size that had been needed at your facility before) you got lucky it was in stock at a distribution center.

Big tools like that are not even made on a regular basis. I sold a 3-3/16" end wrench to the steel mill I call on and the lead time was IIRC eight months because those sizes are not made in large quantities and they certainly aren't stocked in large quantities.

 

[ptschram]

Can't speak for the entire industry... but chrome plated tools are used during build/maintenance of Black Hawks A lot of it was Snap-On, but its slowly being replaced.

The general aviation crash repair industry also uses chromed Snap-On tools, or at least the shop I did my apprenticeship in did.

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

Pratt does engines, so I can't see certain areas including engines, gearboxes and precision assemblies being clean room with more stringent requirements.

 

[plout99]

No worries on my part about the warranty, they were cheap enough that if they break no major loss.

 

[3baygarage]

They most definitely do and frequently have a different part number as well.[/QUOTE

Do they still get a "NO GUAR" stamp today?

 

[MShaw]

I also have flare nut wrenches I bought off the truck in 1962 that have the not guar stamp. Along with the other items noted above.

 

[Cope]

I also have flare nut wrenches I bought off the truck in 1962 that have the not guar stamp. Along with the other items noted above.

Mine were made in 1966, and I bought them from the previous owner in 1969 for $1.50 each.

 

[K-Dog]

Here is their official warranty policy:
https://www1.snapon.com/display/termsofsale.nws

About midway through section 2 it says "This warranty only extends to the original Customer and cannot be transferred or assigned."

If you call them and tell them you bought it used they will tell you this same thing. If you try to warranty a bunch they may start asking for proof of purchase. Some drivers won't warranty used tools, while others don't care.

Well my past three Snap-On dealers seem to be uninformed of that rule since I have successfully warrantied countless tools not owned or not purchased by me, and they were well aware of this.