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Derek420

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Since your already in Germany go with Bosch you can get the green ones over there at a good price, they old sell the blue ones here. They are a great company and offer all of the tools on your list. Id buy the impact that takes 1/4 hex and has a 3/8 anvil on it because it can do 3 or 4 jobs you can get hex ended drill bits and screwdriver tips as well as 1/4 square bit for 1/4 sockets and use 3/8 sockets and use adapter for 1/2 it's fairly strong and I'd buy the 1/2 drill you can probably get them in a kit. As far as batteries I don't think you can mail those over but you might be able to take them with you on the plane when you return. Or you could just buy the bare tools and get the batteries here. I'm a makita guy really and they are my #1 they invented the battery powered drill including Lithium.
 
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I think you're better off buying locally. Anything you get from Home Depot will have American plugs on the charger. It's not a problem if you have a converter, but I would take the opportunity to buy Metabo while in the motherland. Additionally, there aren't any quick customer service solutions available to you if you have a problem with something you bought from the States.
 
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I think you're better off buying locally. Anything you get from Home Depot will have American plugs on the charger. It's not a problem if you have a converter, but I would take the opportunity to buy Metabo while in the motherland. Additionally, there aren't any quick customer service solutions available to you if you have a problem with something you bought from the States.

The plugs and converters are not a problem for me, I would rather have American chargers(or a line that has both European and American chargers I can purchase) for when I return to the States in 2 years.
 

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Most importantly, grab the tools and wave them around a bit. See how they feel. I used to be all Craftsman but once I tried a DeWalt, I was sold. The balance made up for the price difference to me.

Good luck and thanks for your service.
 

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Is m12 or dewalt 12v stuff good enough for a semi big project like redoing a deck? Not the framework but just the deck floor? Besides that I think I'd be fine with 12 volt stuff, maybe even happier due to the compact size. Just worried if I redo my deck myself that 12v won't cut it.

I had wanted to go with ridgid 18v but reading up on them makes me realize they are very slow to introduce new tools and the warranty is a pain to deal with. I wanted a line of tools with an 1/2" impact for car work but am beginning to think I should go with two seperate platforms. Had also considered Kobalt 24v but their reputation of dropping tool lines and no longer supporting them. As well as the physical size of the tools and power is unnecessary for my use except for the one time I may do my deck.
 
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I was looking at Ryobi here in Germany and the tools themselves are significantly more expensive than those in the states(even when you take taxes out which I don't have to pay over here).

If someone has a Ryobi charger could you do me a favor and tell me the input voltage range on the charger? Is it 110V ONLY or 110 - 240?
 
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Take the time to drill down to the specs of the tool model you're looking at .

I'm in the process of standardizing on one platform, so I'm dumping my Milwaukee, Skill, Dewalt, and Craftsman and replacing it with Bosch. Menard had a half inch 18 volt drill on sale for $79, but that model is only rated at 350 inch lb of torque, compared to up to 600 inch lb. In other models in the Bosch lineup.

As to the 120/240 volt discussion, I've used a simple step up transformer to correct the voltage on some electronics for over thirty years now. Be careful of the 50/60 hz difference, though. Alternatively, you can simply purchase a new 120 volt charger when you return.
 

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Is m12 or dewalt 12v stuff good enough for a semi big project like redoing a deck? Not the framework but just the deck floor? Besides that I think I'd be fine with 12 volt stuff, maybe even happier due to the compact size. Just worried if I redo my deck myself that 12v won't cut it.

I had wanted to go with ridgid 18v but reading up on them makes me realize they are very slow to introduce new tools and the warranty is a pain to deal with. I wanted a line of tools with an 1/2" impact for car work but am beginning to think I should go with two seperate platforms. Had also considered Kobalt 24v but their reputation of dropping tool lines and no longer supporting them. As well as the physical size of the tools and power is unnecessary for my use except for the one time I may do my deck.

My first new Milwaukee Red Lithium powered tool to replace my old NiMH 18V Makita stuff was their 12v brushed 2462 1/4 hex impact driver. I could not believe what a powerhouse it was for such a little tool and it is still one of my favorites to use and will easily drive 3 inch screws all day long and with plenty of control. I even set drywall screws with mine. I built all kinds of display tables and counters for our new barn store from dimensional SPF lumber 2x material and 3/4 plywood using nothing but that to drive all the assembly screws.

After a while my ears were ringing though :lol_hitti

Obviously with 12v it wont sink a screw as fast as the more powerful 18v units which sometimes can almost be to fast depending on the job your doing. I have the 2 speed 2657 and like using on the #1 setting as the rpm and impacts are similar to the 2462.

And if its 12v Fuel models you are looking at they are even more powerful especially the drill. I have one its awesome for a 12v tool. It's specs just about equal the old Makita 18v for max torque.

If setting screws thru some deckboards is the only major project you have in mind I would agree you will probably be just fine. I have an older 2410 and it will easily countersink a 3 1/2 inch deck screw driving fully thru a double 2x on mode #1 driving and with the clutch on max setting 20.

With a smaller brushed 3/8 drill that may be working it slightly harder that some people may be comfortable with but worse case you can always predrill if need be. Using sq or torq bits and screws make a big difference with camming out on screw heads too.


Going to tell us which Milwaukee tools you are considering?

Sometime the choices seem mind boggling :eyecrazy:
 
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Looking at Ryobi batteries here in Germany and they have 1.5Ah, 2.5Ah, 4.0Ah, and 5.0Ah. All I can find in the States is 4.0Ah (high capacity) and the "Compact" which doesn't say what size it is. Anybody know what size the "Compact" battery is?

I found a picture showing 25Wh, so 1.5Ah for the compact battery
 
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Bosch has track to make the std cordless circular saw into a track saw. The tracks are discontinued and not cheap and they are only available in Europe. It's a great system.

Now I've heard rumors Bosch has a new cordless track saw that fits their current FSN rails. If you can get that, do it. Cordless tracksaws are very cool tools. They allow you to skip or put off buying a tablesaw. Not sure why, but Bosch hasn't been bringing their cordless track saws to NA. Some guys have bought them from Germany, but they get killed on shipping. Make sure you come home with one. And buy enough track to rip 8'.

My little 18v Bosch saw goes and goes. It's more than acceptable. I wouldnt bother with reviews that say Milwaukee is better because it can cut 10' more on a charge or whatever. Having used a couple of the leading brands, I'd say they are all good. I'd make my decision based on what else you can run off that battery. Pick up a Freud diablo blade before you use your track.
 
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Is m12 or dewalt 12v stuff good enough for a semi big project like redoing a deck? Not the framework but just the deck floor? Besides that I think I'd be fine with 12 volt stuff, maybe even happier due to the compact size. Just worried if I redo my deck myself that 12v won't cut it.

I had wanted to go with ridgid 18v but reading up on them makes me realize they are very slow to introduce new tools and the warranty is a pain to deal with. I wanted a line of tools with an 1/2" impact for car work but am beginning to think I should go with two seperate platforms. Had also considered Kobalt 24v but their reputation of dropping tool lines and no longer supporting them. As well as the physical size of the tools and power is unnecessary for my use except for the one time I may do my deck.

My advice. Skip the 12v stuff and pick up an 18v or 20v hammer drill/impact driver combo from Home Depot on Black Friday. Deck's take 1000's of screws and I don't think a 12v is up to doing that all day long. I think you will drain batteries really quick. Plus, impact drivers are the tool of choice for driving deck screws, but they don't work that great for drilling holes. That's why a combo would be a good purchase. The prices for 18 and 20 volt will come down to around $200 for most brand's containing drill, driver, batteries and charger. Then from there you can add on with impact wrench. There is no reason to buy 2 separate platforms. I personally own 18 and 20v Dewalt, Makita 18v, Ryobi 18v, and Ridgid 18v. I used solely Ridgid tools doing carpentry up until I quit for another job about 2 years ago. This past week I did a small job and all the Ridgid batteries were still charged and all tools working after sitting with no use. Two drills, impact driver, 2 sawzalls, and circular saw. Interestingly, my Ridgid hammer drills did not have enough power to drill 3/4" holes through studs to run wire, but my buddies 18v Ryobi did. The green lithium ion was drilling 3/4" worm bits 18" long through studs all day long. I was pissed, but my stuff is also pretty old now. I use Makita 18v at my job now and they're super nice. Powerful and well made. My coworkers have Milwaukee 18v stuff and while they are powerful and durable, they are heavy. A while back I acquired a 20v Dewalt impact driver from a friend, loved it, and purchased the 20v DCF899 impact wrench to go with it. They are really nice tools and that impact wrench is an absolute beast. I have not run into a fastener it couldn't remove. Amazing. I am planning on adding brushless Dewalt hammer drill this Black Friday.

Basically though, any brand name tool now a days will work. They're all pretty good and each has their own benefit. I would make sure you buy into a platform that has an impact wrench that will meet your needs. I know some brands only offer impact wrenches with plus or minus 300 ft lbs of torque, while the Dewalt I have is rated at 1200 ft lbs. Big difference. As for drills, as prices go up, so does quality of tool and power. Each brand has a cheaper home owner drill with less power, all plastic housing and chuck. As price goes up they get better and more powerful, eventually all metal chucks, brushless motors and over 1000 ft lbs of torque. I'm the kind of person who wants the best of the best, no matter what. This way I know it will work each and every time I need it to. Personally, I'm a Dewalt guy and have had good luck with every one of their tools I've owned.
 
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As said above think about your needs and budget, but also think long term use. Being a contractor the most used tool next to my knife, tape, and pencil is my impact driver. The flashlight and sawzall are not far behind. In my experience any power tool below the professional grade line are really disposable tools. Nothing wrong with that if that is your plan. I tried that method and found it really lacking in overall function of the tool ergonomics and battery life. Your experience may differ. For us these cordless tools get picked up every day and are expected to be worked full out and make money. So with that in mind just think about your need and expectation. However you can usually find a professional brand on sale or with a coupon and not be a much higher than a throw away tool. I myself am a red guy, but yellow, and blue are great tools too. Good luck.
 

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If you can order online I really like the new X5 Ridgid tools, in addition to having good power they are well priced have a lifetime warranty on tool and battery and they are backwards compatible.

I'm headed down to HD later today to see if they have one of the new brushless Stealth Force Oil impacts down there to put my grubby paws on
 
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