The VISES of Garage Journal

[GETRIDAONE]

It is the 6" turtle back model. There have been a lot of them posted on here.

 

[Bcom]

i must see a pic of this

Ok i found a pic. it dont look that big

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

CrotalusAtrox
Do you have a weight on your FPU 6? I have seen them listed on EvilPrey at both an 80# and 100#.

Either there are two models: Heavy 6 and Slim 6 or some EvilPreyers have challenges reading a scale.

Anyone else out there have an FPU 6? Fat or skinny?

JKB

Never weighed so I don't know.

 

[Bcom]

No doubt Gmanbart is a Wilton magnet. He sends me text pics of all his cool finds and i sit here and grit my teeth in jealousy since i cant ever find squat!! However i guess thats the kind of bonuses you get when you live near Detroit

 

[zoomieport]

No doubt Gmanbart is a Wilton magnet. He sends me text pics of all his cool finds and i sit here and grit my teeth in jealousy since i cant ever find squat!! However i guess thats the kind of bonuses you get when you live near Detroit

I just picked up a Yost #206 in Napoleon, Ohio... and I live in SW Michigan.
Defend your turf!!!

Take care!
ZOOM

 

[Bcom]

Haha! Im about to go up to Napoleon and pick up a chair! LOL!

 

[Bcom]

Question----- Does Chas PArker make different size swivel bolt wrenches? I have a No2 on my 974 Parker and i noticed Gman is looking for a No3. Whats the difference and if there is a difference,then why did Parker feel the need to make different size wrenches just for the swivel bolt?!?!?

 

[Outlawmws]

Question----- Does Chas PArker make different size swivel bolt wrenches? I have a No2 on my 974 Parker and i noticed Gman is looking for a No3. Whats the difference and if there is a difference,then why did Parker feel the need to make different size wrenches just for the swivel bolt?!?!?

Different sizes for bigger or smaller vises. a No. 4 won't work too well on a 2" jaw vise...

 

[Bcom]

So how much difference is there between a NO2 No3 and No4 wrench? I didnt even know there was a No4 wrench.

 

[tool_scrounge]

Congratulations! Judging from the photo of the as-new Dawn 60S offset vise that Jholland had posted on PM that he had forsale on Ebay, I presume you purchased it from him. I thought long and hard about getting it, as even for $575 (or whatever you paid outside of Ebay) it is a great vise.

For those who did not see the listing...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/201709502328?

 

[zoomieport]

Not mine, if it's yours, let me know...

 

[zoomieport]

Congratulations! Judging from the photo of the as-new Dawn 60S offset vise that Jholland had posted on PM that he had forsale on Ebay, I presume you purchased it from him. I thought long and hard about getting it, as even for $575 (or whatever you paid outside of Ebay) it is a great vise.

For those who did not see the listing...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/201709502328?

I'll fess up, I paid $700 shipped.
He told me he had at least 6 messages while we were talking, and I believe him.
He said $550 was the lowest he would go due to the interest he was receiving.
I figured $550+$150 for 2 custom wood crates ($35 charge), 120lbs of vise, FedEx rates and all... So I offered $700, all in and he accepted.
I've wanted one since the first time I saw one, I'm happy with it for sure!

Thanks, take care!
ZOOM

 

[Bcom]

zoomie--- is that a real parker mini vise? where you get that?!? Is it fake? want more info!!

 

[zoomieport]

zoomie--- is that a real parker mini vise? where you get that?!? Is it fake? want more info!!

I saw it on Pinterest, it sold for $925, it's real.

 

[meatsis]

This Parker is even smaller. And fully functional.

 

[Bcom]

meatsis--- how can you tell its a parker? i dont see any markings

 

[Mark in Indiana]

CrotalusAtrox
Do you have a weight on your FPU 6? I have seen them listed on EvilPrey at both an 80# and 100#.

Either there are two models: Heavy 6 and Slim 6 or some EvilPreyers have challenges reading a scale.

Anyone else out there have an FPU 6? Fat or skinny?

JKB

I've never heard of a fat or skinny FPU vise. I've always known them to be the turtle back shape, with reverse movement.
If there are FPU vises different from the turtle back style, can someone post pictures?

 

[meatsis]

meatsis--- how can you tell its a parker? i dont see any markings

In the 2nd picture you can see the "er" from the word Parker on the slide

 

[mike_paxton]

Got a call on Friday from a friend saying he was at a garage sale and they had an old Reed vise and wondered if I wanted him to buy it for me.

Picked it up today and paid a bonus to my friend, then took it home and worked on getting it cleaned up.

It is a Reed Mfg Co Erie PA No. 105 with two patent dates (Dec 24, 1912 and Aug 11, 1914).

Has it's usual wear marks, but close to 77 pounds on my scale, and opens/closes easily.

Mike

 

[kwoswalt99]

Looks great just as it is.

 

[Bcom]

In the 2nd picture you can see the "er" from the word Parker on the slide

Are you sure it just wasnt an emergency room vise?

 

[PghJKB]

I've never heard of a fat or skinny FPU vise. I've always known them to be the turtle back shape, with reverse movement.
If there are FPU vises different from the turtle back style, can someone post pictures?

Mark
This is specific to the 6 inch FPU Turtle Vise.

The Poles did make other styles of vises. For example, the Rapid series and they even made a Baby Bison clamp-on very similar to a Wilton Baby Bullet. (In my estimation, the Polish Baby Bison is a superior vise to the Baby Wilton, but opinions are like A$$holes, everyone has one, they all stink). Oh yea, I reserve the right to be wrong.

JKB

 

[Mark in Indiana]

JKB,
I wondered if Bison made FPU vises other than the reverse movement, turtle back vises.
They made a standard 1250 series bench type of various sizes (Rapid for the US market), a 1271 series that rotates vertically, and some other styles. There just isn't as much information on them as American made vises.
BTW: I currently have a 80mm FPU vise. It's one of the best ones made. I hope to get a 150mm FPU and (now that you mentioned), a baby FPU.

 

[trijeff]

Is this the baby FPU?

 

[PghJKB]

JKB,
I wondered if Bison made FPU vises other than the reverse movement, turtle back vises.
They made a standard 1250 series bench type of various sizes (Rapid for the US market), a 1271 series that rotates vertically, and some other styles. There just isn't as much information on them as American made vises.
BTW: I currently have a 80mm FPU vise. It's one of the best ones made. I hope to get a 150mm FPU and (now that you mentioned), a baby FPU.

Is this the baby FPU?

Mark
My relatives translate FPU (Fabryka Przyrzadow i Uchwytow) as Factory of Tooling and Chucks - they are all second generation and only speak Polish (they cannot read it). So this is their best guess translation, and it matches the Google translation.

So, I think we all generally agree the Factory of Tooling and Chucks is Bison-Bial {FPU = Bison-Bial}.

This certainly supports that conclusion: http://www.rebik.si/static/upload/pdf/celotni_katalogi/KATALOG-BISON-BIAL.pdf

There is some company history in that link to the catalog.

For me, that would make FPU a maker, not a type of vise. So Bison-Bial made the Turtle FPUs and they make the 12xx series (and others) today.

The Bison-Bial 1240 Series looks to be a direct descendent of the FPU Turtle (and the German Leinin).

TriJeff
As for the babies, since there is no FPU on them [never found any on mine], and they are a conventional front moving jaw vise, I think it best to call them "Baby Bison-Bial" or, for lazy people like me, Baby Bison.

A larger image would help, but it sure looks like a Bay Bison. Right down to the stamping on the clamp handle.

Someone sold one a while back on EvilPrey and their description was nothing short of gushing. Well deserved, but you would have thought it was an incarnation of Christie Brinkley in a Lamborghini...

Does this all make sense??

JKB

 

[Thru-hika]

Picked up this lil green C.Parker on the way home today in Indiana. The jaws are 2.25" wide. Only issue I see is the front part of the swivel base is missing.
Not sure if there is supposed to be a Parker piece holding the main screw in place but there is no hole indicating there ever was one. Anyone know if it would have come with a wrench for the swivel nuts?



1914 Patent on the bottom. Stamped 2000 on the other side and might say 720 on the bottom as well.

$30 brought her home.

 

[Thru-hika]

Bottom of the C. parker.

 

[jwsia]

Went to a sale today that had a bunch of vises. I was interested in the 2 Rock Island 98s but they went too high for my blood 250 each. Also had a 6 inch Yost that had a corner broken off the jaw for 90. Got a bunch of great stuff but no vises. How much does an 8 inch RI vise weigh?

 

[drivesitfar]

JW: a 6 inch Rock Island weighs 150 pounds so guessing an 8 incher weighs about 250 or so. are #98's 8 inch wide jaws?

ALL: picked up a nice wood bench with a good little wood vise on it that works a bit different than most. you put the dynamic jaw in a slot and just screw in and out.

also picked up this no name red 2 inch jaw vise with a mini wing nut. it looks like maybe there was a hold drilled in the dynamic but i bought it anyway cause liked the look.

 

[va.grouseman]

Picked up this lil green C.Parker on the way home today in Indiana. The jaws are 2.25" wide. Only issue I see is the front part of the swivel base is missing.
Not sure if there is supposed to be a Parker piece holding the main screw in place but there is no hole indicating there ever was one. Anyone know if it would have come with a wrench for the swivel nuts?



1914 Patent on the bottom. Stamped 2000 on the other side and might say 720 on the bottom as well.

$30 brought her home.

Thru, You don't see many of those #2000s.---They're not nearly as sweet as those little salesman toys we saw Zoomie and Meatsis post, but they are not all that big.---Here's 2 that I picked up the same week, about 3 years ago, one from Craigslist, Cal., the other from EBay, Florida.---Odd that they would come up for sale the same week and then I don't see anymore.

I used a #972 1/2 for size reference.

 

[zoomieport]

Always Top-Notch Specimens VA, I'd love to see the whole collection one of these days... You are like the "Howard Hughes" of Vises, LOL!

Take Care VA!
ZOOM

 

[CRSINMICH]

Mark
My relatives translate FPU (Fabryka Przyrzadow i Uchwytow) as Factory of Tooling and Chucks - they are all second generation and only speak Polish (they cannot read it). So this is their best guess translation, and it matches the Google translation.

So, I think we all generally agree the Factory of Tooling and Chucks is Bison-Bial {FPU = Bison-Bial}.

This certainly supports that conclusion: http://www.rebik.si/static/upload/pdf/celotni_katalogi/KATALOG-BISON-BIAL.pdf

There is some company history in that link to the catalog.

For me, that would make FPU a maker, not a type of vise. So Bison-Bial made the Turtle FPUs and they make the 12xx series (and others) today.

The Bison-Bial 1240 Series looks to be a direct descendent of the FPU Turtle (and the German Leinin).

TriJeff
As for the babies, since there is no FPU on them [never found any on mine], and they are a conventional front moving jaw vise, I think it best to call them "Baby Bison-Bial" or, for lazy people like me, Baby Bison.

A larger image would help, but it sure looks like a Bay Bison. Right down to the stamping on the clamp handle.

Someone sold one a while back on EvilPrey and their description was nothing short of gushing. Well deserved, but you would have thought it was an incarnation of Christie Brinkley in a Lamborghini...

Does this all make sense??

JKB

JKB: This is good stuff especially the catalog. If you have the time it would be great if you'd post this on the Vise Manufacturers thread. In case you don't know it already here's the link: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283430&highlight=vise+manufacturers&page=6

 

[Thru-hika]

VA: thank you for the pics of your CP 2000 vises - they are cool for sure.

 

[scooternut]

mike paxton

SWEET Reed 105. All this chatter of unique, small, and collectable vises distracted everyone away from what I feel is the best working vise out there, that Reed 105 you have there. Finally grabbed one myself recently but it is a later version with the split nut but luckily the ball main screw end. I prefer the aesthetics of yours, I have a 106 as yours.

Nice find!

 

[Bcom]

I want a mini parker vise too!

 

[rusty65]

Speaking of minis I just got this pair in the mail today. Both of the vises are 2 1/2in jaw the model numbers 180 (15lbs) and the 210 (12lbs) . The combination one is my favorite of the pair to be honest because you don't see many of the Blake Prentiss models.


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[CrotalusAtrox]

wait a second, did someone just say they have a 100lb fpu?

Don't think it is a 100 pounds but I am guessing it is 80 pounds, they are very stout.

 

[va.grouseman]

Nice stuff Rusty.---Not only smallies, but in good shape to boot.---Well done.


Sorry Scooter, were back on the small ones.

 

[mike_paxton]

mike paxton

SWEET Reed 105. All this chatter of unique, small, and collectable vises distracted everyone away from what I feel is the best working vise out there, that Reed 105 you have there. Finally grabbed one myself recently but it is a later version with the split nut but luckily the ball main screw end. I prefer the aesthetics of yours, I have a 106 as yours.

Nice find!

Scooternut:

I normally prefer to see vises before okaying a purchase, but when he said the maker was Reed and large, didn't hesitate to tell him to get it for me.

Reeds are definitely a stout vise and can understand why a lot of folks like them.

Mike

 

[bluebolt]

The "swivel cross plate" on yours is actually OEM.
I have several that are identical, kind of cheesy for such cool vises.
Functional nonetheless...
Well bought!

Take care!
ZOOM

Wow that cross plate being original surprises me, I thought I was going to have to discount it if I sell it LOL!