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I am restoring a Hein Werner 1.25 ton service jack that was sold through Mopar back in the day and I have a couple of questions for the jack Buddhas here. I have looked through a lot of the old posts without any luck.

1) Is there a particular name for this type of retainer? Has anyone found a source? I think I am going to be able to reuse my originals, but just in case…

2) Would I be better off stripping the paint away from the ball bearing surfaces on the rear wheel assemblies?

3) Finally, has anyone looked into reproducing the Hein Werner safety label? I am going to look in to having some made, but perhaps someone has already done it. I have a better example of the label on my orange 1.5 ton.

Thanks much!
 

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How did you remove/tighten the tank nut?

And what you've done sure looks good so far.
Post some more pics.
 
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floyd said:
I am restoring a Hein Werner 1.25 ton service jack that was sold through Mopar back in the day and I have a couple of questions for the jack Buddhas here. I have looked through a lot of the old posts without any luck.

1) Is there a particular name for this type of retainer? Has anyone found a source? I think I am going to be able to reuse my originals, but just in case…


Thanks much!
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You have an old C-clip. It is probably re-usable, but can also be replaced with a standard snap-ring. Just pay a visit to your favorite hardware store (even a big box store) and bring the pin along with you to size-up the clips. Good luck!

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Thanks - I should be able to reuse the clips. I am going for an "all original" resto, which is a little nutty I know.

Are you talking about the "tank" nut on the caster assembly. Those came off without any issues.

I am going to strip the paint off the ball bearing surfaces.

Another pic. I'm a Mopar guy so the color doesn't offend me...
 

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The safety sticker is going to be hard as that one is toast. I did mine for my O'Boy. Basically I took a picture with a good scale reference. Imported it into a graphics program. I use Inkscape and GIMP, both free. Brush up the label to get it looking good again. It works best if you can find the font the original was made with but it is not necessary. Once you have a good image send it to a printer. I use a local place but plenty of good options online.

Best bet would be find a picture of one online and do the same thing.
 
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In those days they marketed under several names mine is a Walker. The retIner is an inside snap ring. If it is not leaking and lifts OK, change the fluid and leave the nut on the top of the tank alone. Today most of those top nuts which are the top of the piston cylinder are hex and easily removed. If it is like mine, it is round with two notches in it. There was a special socket. Today most people make one if they have to open it to replace the piston leather seal. It is a dry fit and seals the top and bottom of the tank. The torque setting is very high and the metal is soft. If you use a pipe wrench you will butcher it and probably not get it off. Ask me how I know. Funny you say yours is marked Mopar. I bought mine new, many years ago,from a Mopar parts dealer,no cars, just parts. A thing of the past.

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In those days they marketed under several names mine is a Walker. The retIner is an inside snap ring. If it is not leaking and lifts OK, change the fluid and leave the nut on the top of the tank alone. Today most of those top nuts which are the top of the piston cylinder are hex and easily removed. If it is like mine, it is round with two notches in it. There was a special socket. Today most people make one if they have to open it to replace the piston leather seal. It is a dry fit and seals the top and bottom of the tank. The torque setting is very high and the metal is soft. If you use a pipe wrench you will butcher it and probably not get it off. Ask me how I know. Funny you say yours is marked Mopar. I bought mine new, many years ago,from a Mopar parts dealer,no cars, just parts. A thing of the past.

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6pt - was your jack green originally?
 
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What year do you think your jack is?

Here is what the tank nut looks like on my H-W. I made a special tool and used my impact wrench to remove it and re-install it.

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I'm not sure what year. Probably 1960s. I had the hydraulic unit unit rebuilt by Peterson Hydraulics in Wisconsin. Here's a before and after pic.
 

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I found some vintage Hein Werner jack stands on craigslist and used my leftover paint.
 

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In those days they marketed under several names mine is a Walker. The retIner is an inside snap ring. If it is not leaking and lifts OK, change the fluid and leave the nut on the top of the tank alone. Today most of those top nuts which are the top of the piston cylinder are hex and easily removed. If it is like mine, it is round with two notches in it. There was a special socket. Today most people make one if they have to open it to replace the piston leather seal. It is a dry fit and seals the top and bottom of the tank. The torque setting is very high and the metal is soft. If you use a pipe wrench you will butcher it and probably not get it off. Ask me how I know. Funny you say yours is marked Mopar. I bought mine new, many years ago,from a Mopar parts dealer,no cars, just parts. A thing of the past.

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Update: I have been told that your Mopar is not the same as the Walker/ Ajax. It is not even the same shade if green. The Ajax was a much darker green.

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Update: I have been told that your Mopar is not the same as the Walker/ Ajax. It is not even the same shade if green. The Ajax was a much darker green.

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Looking at your pictures, it is not the same jack, but the tank nut is the same. What is that toothed gear looking thing around the tank?

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That is the tank nut 6PT.
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Inside that "gear" is the flange with the two notches that were typically found on old HW jacks. The more common arangement is a hex. I have never seen anything like that on the resivoir tank.

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6PTsocket said:
Inside that "gear" is the flange with the two notches that were typically found on old HW jacks. The more common arangement is a hex. I have never seen anything like that on the resivoir tank.

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All Hw WS models have that style of the Tank nut, the brass inner piece is a gland nut to compress packing, not to be confused with the spanner tank nut used on Walkers/Early Lincoln produced jacks. I think you are getting your HW Era's confused.
 
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All Hw WS models have that style of the Tank nut, the brass inner piece is a gland nut to compress packing, not to be confused with the spanner tank nut used on Walkers/Early Lincoln produced jacks. I think you are getting your HW Era's confused.
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OK, thanks for the info. I am no expert. It is something I never saw before. While you are looking at this thread, could you please tell me what the torque is for that spanner nut on early Ajax/Walker jacks? I dont want to have to fill mine to see if it leaks. I saw instructions for a later one that call for Loctite 515 flange sealant for the ends of the tank. Does it help? Mine was leaking when I took it apart for a rebuild. Thank you very much.



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