The VISES of Garage Journal
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bagged89s10
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meatsis
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Nice! Happy birthday
Mark in Indiana
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Hello Vise Friends:
First, I would like to wish all a Happy Thanksgiving Day. Along with good health, family & friends, I'm thankful to have been drawn to the fascinating pastime of "vise-ology".
Over the past several days, there have been a lot of great vises & restorations posted here. Please post them in the 2016 "Visees" Awards thread. So far, there aren't many entries. This is a great chance to show off your masterpieces and get some bragging rites. The link is below my signature.
The other evening, I picked up a couple of Chas. Parker vises from an old fellow that I trade with. He's a fellow "picker" who specializes in iron skillets & militaria, in the same way that I like vises. He sold me a Parker 954 and a Parker 272.
The Parker 954 (first 2 pictures) is a good working vise. Complete, no cracks or weld repairs. Unfortunately, it looks like it was in salt water for 50 years, then beat with a sledge hammer. In spite of that, I can still clean/paint/polish the vise and resell it.
The Parker 272 (second 3 pictures) will be an interesting challenge. It's a vise that the fellow who sold it to me was using it for years. Although it has a pivoting jaw, someone, long ago, brazed angle stock in place of the jaw faces.
At least, I didn't pay much for it.
So here's my options:
1. Clean, lubricate & resell the vise. Outside of the brazed jaw face modification, it's a perfectly good vise. The only thing is that this option will make me a little money, but not be interesting.
2. Disassemble and sell the good parts.
3. Try to reshape & clean up the "modified" jaw faces. Continue to paint & polish.
4. Using my milling machine, torch set, and other pieces of my shop arsenal, surgically remove the brazed on jaw faces and restore the vise to its former glory. I'm leaning toward this option. Through the restoration, I'll post the progress on the Vise Repair 101 thread. Maybe if I'm successful, I'll enter it in the 2017 Visees Awards.
I won't start on this restoration until next summer, because I have several restorations ahead of it and a few other projects to finish. Please share of your thoughts on this.
Along with my Thanksgiving wishes, I hope that those who are going to brave the Black Friday (Hell Friday) insanity will survive. Normally, I stay home or leave town to escape to the tranquillity of my tree farm.
First, I would like to wish all a Happy Thanksgiving Day. Along with good health, family & friends, I'm thankful to have been drawn to the fascinating pastime of "vise-ology".
Over the past several days, there have been a lot of great vises & restorations posted here. Please post them in the 2016 "Visees" Awards thread. So far, there aren't many entries. This is a great chance to show off your masterpieces and get some bragging rites. The link is below my signature.
The other evening, I picked up a couple of Chas. Parker vises from an old fellow that I trade with. He's a fellow "picker" who specializes in iron skillets & militaria, in the same way that I like vises. He sold me a Parker 954 and a Parker 272.
The Parker 954 (first 2 pictures) is a good working vise. Complete, no cracks or weld repairs. Unfortunately, it looks like it was in salt water for 50 years, then beat with a sledge hammer. In spite of that, I can still clean/paint/polish the vise and resell it.
The Parker 272 (second 3 pictures) will be an interesting challenge. It's a vise that the fellow who sold it to me was using it for years. Although it has a pivoting jaw, someone, long ago, brazed angle stock in place of the jaw faces.
At least, I didn't pay much for it.
So here's my options:
1. Clean, lubricate & resell the vise. Outside of the brazed jaw face modification, it's a perfectly good vise. The only thing is that this option will make me a little money, but not be interesting.
2. Disassemble and sell the good parts.
3. Try to reshape & clean up the "modified" jaw faces. Continue to paint & polish.
4. Using my milling machine, torch set, and other pieces of my shop arsenal, surgically remove the brazed on jaw faces and restore the vise to its former glory. I'm leaning toward this option. Through the restoration, I'll post the progress on the Vise Repair 101 thread. Maybe if I'm successful, I'll enter it in the 2017 Visees Awards.
I won't start on this restoration until next summer, because I have several restorations ahead of it and a few other projects to finish. Please share of your thoughts on this.
Along with my Thanksgiving wishes, I hope that those who are going to brave the Black Friday (Hell Friday) insanity will survive. Normally, I stay home or leave town to escape to the tranquillity of my tree farm.
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drivesitfar
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MEATSIS: is that new little vise a keeper? he sure is cute? CONGRATS!!!
Mark: you'll know what to do when the time comes to do something with those Parkers.
also i agree that some of the members might be missing the boat when they can post up a few more pictures of their vises on your Vise of the 2016 thread.
ALL: who said i wasn't handy? i'm sure i can improve, but i learned to bake cookies this year and had a request for what i call Gramp's cookies or Molasses and the recipe says ginger. very tasty and i had to test a couple to make sure i wasn't going to poison my guests today.
Happy Thanksgiving all
Mark: you'll know what to do when the time comes to do something with those Parkers.
also i agree that some of the members might be missing the boat when they can post up a few more pictures of their vises on your Vise of the 2016 thread.
ALL: who said i wasn't handy? i'm sure i can improve, but i learned to bake cookies this year and had a request for what i call Gramp's cookies or Molasses and the recipe says ginger. very tasty and i had to test a couple to make sure i wasn't going to poison my guests today.
Happy Thanksgiving all
Teenager with old tools
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Bobioz1
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Thanks for the pictures. Nice job on a cool vise and I like your improvements. These must be super rare. My wish list grows......
Mark in Indiana
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Drives,
You're right. I plan to try to restore it to its former glory. Not only will the challenge be fun, it will give me the chance to showcase the tricks on how to extract the pivot jaw pin and on how I removed the brazed on jaws.
A little fun fact:
A year ago, I saw this vise in this fellow's back yard, and told him that I would be glad to give 200$ if it was in original shape, but it's worth nothing because of the brazed jaws. But, the other night, he was ready to sell and I got it at a good price, that we were both happy with. The value for me will be the challenge of restoring it.
Thrumcap
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No assembled photos but this is my Record no.5 next to my son's Woden #3. I blasted both of them down then sprayed em with industrial primer and top coat.
Ainsley, looks good. What colour is that?
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bagged89s10
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bulletpruf
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Hello Vise Friends:
First, I would like to wish all a Happy Thanksgiving Day. Along with good health, family & friends, I'm thankful to have been drawn to the fascinating pastime of "vise-ology".
Over the past several days, there have been a lot of great vises & restorations posted here. Please post them in the 2016 "Visees" Awards thread. So far, there aren't many entries. This is a great chance to show off your masterpieces and get some bragging rites. The link is below my signature.
The other evening, I picked up a couple of Chas. Parker vises from an old fellow that I trade with. He's a fellow "picker" who specializes in iron skillets & militaria, in the same way that I like vises. He sold me a Parker 954 and a Parker 272.
The Parker 954 (first 2 pictures) is a good working vise. Complete, no cracks or weld repairs. Unfortunately, it looks like it was in salt water for 50 years, then beat with a sledge hammer. In spite of that, I can still clean/paint/polish the vise and resell it.
The Parker 272 (second 3 pictures) will be an interesting challenge. It's a vise that the fellow who sold it to me was using it for years. Although it has a pivoting jaw, someone, long ago, brazed angle stock in place of the jaw faces.
At least, I didn't pay much for it.
So here's my options:
1. Clean, lubricate & resell the vise. Outside of the brazed jaw face modification, it's a perfectly good vise. The only thing is that this option will make me a little money, but not be interesting.
2. Disassemble and sell the good parts.
3. Try to reshape & clean up the "modified" jaw faces. Continue to paint & polish.
4. Using my milling machine, torch set, and other pieces of my shop arsenal, surgically remove the brazed on jaw faces and restore the vise to its former glory. I'm leaning toward this option. Through the restoration, I'll post the progress on the Vise Repair 101 thread. Maybe if I'm successful, I'll enter it in the 2017 Visees Awards.
I won't start on this restoration until next summer, because I have several restorations ahead of it and a few other projects to finish. Please share of your thoughts on this.
Along with my Thanksgiving wishes, I hope that those who are going to brave the Black Friday (Hell Friday) insanity will survive. Normally, I stay home or leave town to escape to the tranquillity of my tree farm.
The "rusty" vise doesn't look that rusty to me. Appears to be surface rust from the pictures?
As for the brazed jaws, can you melt the brazed metal? It's brass, right? Lower melting point than the cast iron. I'm assuming you have a torch and maybe a rosebud tip. Anyway, that's what I would try.
Good luck.
Scott
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Well, it was nearly two weeks since my last vise purchase, and since I took the day off I stuck the Wilton magnet in the back of the truck and headed out. As usual, it worked like a charm!
Two 1760s, with one of them absolutely NOS.
Two 1760s, with one of them absolutely NOS.
CrotalusAtrox
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Well, it was nearly two weeks since my last vise purchase, and since I took the day off I stuck the Wilton magnet in the back of the truck and headed out. As usual, it worked like a charm!
Two 1760s, with one of them absolutely NOS.
Can I get one of those magnets
CrotalusAtrox
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Well I finally find a Athol that swivels in AZ guy says $40 bucks I said I will be there in a couple hours have to drive down from Prescott and can swing buy on my way home he says no problem I will hold it for you. So I get to his house text him he says he sold it but has one just like it but it's blue and he wants $80 
kind of pissed but I look at it we agree on $60. O Well 
cleaned off the blue
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joe.striper
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Well I finally find a Athol that swivels in AZ guy says $40 bucks I said I will be there in a couple hours have to drive down from Prescott and can swing buy on my way home he says no problem I will hold it for you. So I get to his house text him he says he sold it but has one just like it but it's blue and he wants $80
Thats a good buy for $60. So very well made. I'm restoring a 5" Starret right now. Always nice to tear them apart.
CrotalusAtrox
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Thanks Joe and I agree these are some well made vises not the best castings on the older ones but very tight tolerances regardless.
Can I get one of those magnets
I'm considering regional franchises, but there will be a fairly comprehensive non-disclosure agreement that goes along with it....trade secret kind of stuff
sandman54
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Bob it is most likely a German Boley jewelers vise it might be a Leinen....
dutchgray
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Todays great find
View media item 65391View media item 65390View media item 65389An early Parkinson's Handy No G3 (4") in really good condition.
Went to my local vice guy (the one Bulletproof got his Paramo from) to pick up a portable vice stand with a pair of pipe vices I won for £15, and he had this as well as a lot of others.
This one should be older than the common style that's in the 1930's catalogue CW scanned, but newer than the really old style. It still has some original red paint on it. Best part it was £20
Note how far forward the cast in nut is and how designed the underside of the static is.
View media item 65391View media item 65390View media item 65389An early Parkinson's Handy No G3 (4") in really good condition.
Went to my local vice guy (the one Bulletproof got his Paramo from) to pick up a portable vice stand with a pair of pipe vices I won for £15, and he had this as well as a lot of others.
This one should be older than the common style that's in the 1930's catalogue CW scanned, but newer than the really old style. It still has some original red paint on it. Best part it was £20
Note how far forward the cast in nut is and how designed the underside of the static is.
CRSINMICH
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dutch: I checked the 1913 and the 1923 Buck & Hickman catalogue that CW uploaded. Both of them had pictures of Handys. The 1913 picture looked like it had a very slight difference from yours. It could have been a defect of the drawing. This 1923 picture looked closer. If this is yours then you overpaid slightly from the 1923 price. Congrats! That vice is in remarkable condition whatever year it was made. Nice find!
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dutchgray
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CRS
I have been looking in those same catalogues, it really does appear to be from that era.
That Price is 17 shillings and 6 pence. Less than a pound.
20 Shillings to a Pound.
12 Pence to a Shilling.
240 Pence to a Pound.
In real terms it would have been much more expensive then than now.
I have been looking in those same catalogues, it really does appear to be from that era.
That Price is 17 shillings and 6 pence. Less than a pound.
20 Shillings to a Pound.
12 Pence to a Shilling.
240 Pence to a Pound.
In real terms it would have been much more expensive then than now.
CRSINMICH
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Silly me, I read that as 17 pounds. Now that I think of it, that would have be astronomically expensive in 1923.
Why do you suppose B&H obscured the words embossed on the vice for their drawings and called it a Model 3 instead of G3? I've noticed those same things in other old catalogues. Were they skirting copyright or patent issues perhaps?
Rosso
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Any tips on the purchase of a used Record No.5 ?
After reading this thread i want to buy an old one and restore it
After reading this thread i want to buy an old one and restore it
econotrk
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That has to be the best looking underside of a vise I've seen, spectacular craftsmanship. And topside I like everything about it, love to see one of those in person. Can't see the leadscrew very well but it looks particularly large.
Mark in Indiana
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All,
Here's an interesting vice that I found on Louisville CL. I can't make out the brand. The interesting parts were the jaw insert and the cut outs in the slide & body. I'd check it out if I was closer, or had time for the trip.
Does anyone know anything about it?
http://louisville.craigslist.org/tls/5886636642.html
Here's an interesting vice that I found on Louisville CL. I can't make out the brand. The interesting parts were the jaw insert and the cut outs in the slide & body. I'd check it out if I was closer, or had time for the trip.
Does anyone know anything about it?
http://louisville.craigslist.org/tls/5886636642.html
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Outlawmws
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Mark, The couple of those I've seen for sale around here were either Japan or Taiwan, IIR. I don't recall the brands
trijeff
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kwoswalt99
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How much craftsmanship can there be in a mass produced item...
Outlawmws
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Are you serious? A lot. Compare the vises made in china to the ones made in the past in north America and Europe. Compare the Yugo to almost any other car made anywhere... The list of comparisons is absolutely endless... "Mass produced" does not automatically negate craftsmanship. Conversely "hand made" does not automatically create craftsmanship...
dutchgray
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Considering most are near flat on the underside, some thought went into it to have the strength in the right places with out using more metal than they needed. Screw is 3/4" and 4 tpi.
kwoswalt99
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A lot. Compare the vises made in china to the ones made in the past in north America and Europe. Compare the Yugo to almost any other car made anywhere... The list of comparisons is absolutely endless... "Mass produced" does not automatically negate craftsmanship. Conversely "hand made" does not automatically create craftsmanship...
Completely serious. You are describing the word "quality", not craftsmanship.
jimreed2160
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Puh-TA-toe, Pa-tot-o
Let's rejoin the vise discussion.
Let's rejoin the vise discussion.
Craptain
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Boatman53
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That's an interesting one, never saw One like that.
Jim
Jim
zoomieport
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Saw this in pawn shop today. Anybody recognize it?
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No, but I want it...?
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Craptain
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The tag said $50. But it only just went out so they won't discount yet. It didn't give me any clues to it's heritage.
If anyone really does want it I will help out.
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CrotalusAtrox
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That is funny
