The VISES of Garage Journal

[CRSINMICH]

Tonellin: That's a nice vise. Around here a Wilton woodworker's vise is usually priced at $75 to $100. I'd jump on one for $35 and I already have 3 WW vises. Good score!

kitch: Very nice restorations. Top notch! Just why do you have you choose? Your bench has two ends doesn't it? If it came right down to it I'd have to pick the Leinen.....or the Schlegel. EDIT: I just noticed that you also have a Record, but it's mounted in the middle of the bench top so you're still okay for keeping both restorations.

 

[drivesitfar]

Mason007: since it looks like you are a secret agent how about you find out which US company was involved with RAE's vise design of the one you posted? i like RAE's that look like Records, but i think i like yours even better.

Kitch: are you residing in Europe someplace with all those cool vices you own? hard to choose which one to sell so if you want to build another bench or stand for one of them and put 2 on your workbench that might solve your problems. nice restorations too and welcome to GJ since it looks like you are a new member.

Meatsis: if i was a kid and my dad had as many huge old vises and tools like you do i'd be in HEAVEN. yep little girls like pink, but some of the GJ gals like GREEN, BLUE and RED too. also some of the members that have garage threads have had Birthday parties in their garages with great success and i'll give you a few links if you ask or might be interested. good to hear you are getting a little sleep too. again congrats.

if i had a little one needing a workbench this one might be about right with a little spiffing up.

 

[drivesitfar]

GET & ALL: thanks for posting up the date on your slide of the Wilton 350 SJ. i did know yours was Schiller Park so maybe the smaller SJ's swivel jaw vises sold faster than this 6 inch one that has Patent Pend and Chicago that is stamped 6/72.

there are many Wilton baby bullet vises with Chicago on the side casting that are stamped in the 70's and a few in the 80's.

like the brass pieces i bet Wilton just had those inventory vises that maybe employees got to make out of parts laying around the factory or not sure how or why some of these were made like they were.

 

[KMScott]

This vise is to cool not to share, in the same family as GETRIDAONE's that he restored a while back. I added his restoration. Purchased in NY at a estate sale and sold in San Antonio today in a CL ad.

 

[va.grouseman]

I can't wait till that one hits EBay.---I got dibs.

 

[KMScott]

I can't wait till that one hits EBay.---I got dibs.

Nope, going on a shelf with the other 100's of vises. This one was purchased for $30 by the same collector this weekend. Both vises are hard to find.

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

Wow that is a neat vise....I could look at that all day. Ed.

 

[KMScott]

Just finished two german vises

And the Schlegel EMF

Just need to decide which one to keep [emoji13]

Very nice paint job on the Leinen. Would like to see your other German Schlegel vise. Maybe a few more pic's. Great job kitch

 

[454ragtop]

Anybody know who may have made this little clamp on? Found it on Ebay the other day, $16 shipped, thought it would be a good addition to my display. The jaws are 1-1/2" wide, seems to be in real nice shape other than the surface rust, works fine. Kind of reminds me of a Colton patent vise, but it's a little different. Couldn't find any markings, will look it over again once it comes out of the E-tank.

 

[G-ManBart]

It's not zooms wilton but here is the one everyone is discussing.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-Vise-M...%3A951381b91580a624b8e146e8fff0a61d%7Ciid%3A1

So it appears the buyer didn't pay up because the vise is listed again.

 

[GETRIDAONE]

This vise is to cool not to share, in the same family as GETRIDAONE's that he restored a while back. I added his restoration. Purchased in NY at a estate sale and sold in San Antonio today in a CL ad.

I wish mine had been a swivel jaw.

Check your website, you have an order for a set of jaws.

 

[KMScott]

I wish mine had been a swivel jaw.

Check your website, you have an order for a set of jaws.

Thanks GET, forgot to use the GJ coupon code for 10% off. Always nice to wake up to a sale.

 

[General Geoff]

Got the new Yost FSV-5 in today. I gotta say, for an import vise, it's not bad. Way nicer than the ones sold at the big box stores and HF.

Opens and closes very smoothly, right out of the box. Just a tiny amount of play in the dynamic jaw, which I can adjust with the guide screws. Jaws close dead nuts parallel. It has two swivel clampdowns! The welds aren't the prettiest, but they seem stout enough. Time will tell just how good they are!

Only weighs 27lbs, which is one of the reasons I went for it to use as a portable vise to move between an outdoor workbench and a hitch mount.

Just to highlight how compact this steel vise is, here it is compared to my Starrett-Athol 324-1/2.

 

[Bcom]

Got the new Yost FSV-5 in today. I gotta say, for an import vise, it's not bad. Way nicer than the ones sold at the big box stores and HF.

Opens and closes very smoothly, right out of the box. Just a tiny amount of play in the dynamic jaw, which I can adjust with the guide screws. Jaws close dead nuts parallel. It has two swivel clampdowns! The welds aren't the prettiest, but they seem stout enough. Time will tell just how good they are!

Only weighs 27lbs, which is one of the reasons I went for it to use as a portable vise to move between an outdoor workbench and a hitch mount.

Just to highlight how compact this steel vise is, here it is compared to my Starrett-Athol 324-1/2.

The red yost looks very interesting. Now im not pokin fun at it or anything but i have some concerns. The vise is welded in at least 3 spots from the factory. I always thought that was a big no no when buying a vise. What do you think?

 

[General Geoff]

The red yost looks very interesting. Now im not pokin fun at it or anything but i have some concerns. The vise is welded in at least 3 spots from the factory. I always thought that was a big no no when buying a vise. What do you think?

It's steel, not iron. No issues with welding steel.

 

[jimreed2160]

The vise looks nice but close ups of the welds are sad. Those welding robots need better eyes.

 

[General Geoff]

The vise looks nice but close ups of the welds are sad. Those welding robots need better eyes.

Bigger the gob, the better the job!

 

[va.grouseman]

I agree with the General.---If that was a cast iron vise welded in 3 spots, I wouldn't even want to break kindling wood in it.---But welded chunks of steel are a different animal, provided they were V GROOVED prior to welding.

 

[dkroth]

Got the new Yost FSV-5 in today. I gotta say, for an import vise, it's not bad.

Imported from where?

 

[General Geoff]

Taiwan.

 

[winlinmac]

^^^Looks promising,

 

[dieselsmoke]

Nice Prentiss 58 just ended on fleaBay at $1663. Yowza.

 

[454ragtop]

Anybody know who may have made this little clamp on? Found it on Ebay the other day, $16 shipped, thought it would be a good addition to my display. The jaws are 1-1/2" wide, seems to be in real nice shape other than the surface rust, works fine. Kind of reminds me of a Colton patent vise, but it's a little different. Couldn't find any markings, will look it over again once it comes out of the E-tank.

Here it is after an E-tank bath and ran across the wire wheel, looks like new. But, not a manufacturers mark or even any kind of a part # to be found. Any ideas?

 

[Outlawmws]

It's steel, not iron. No issues with welding steel.

How do you know? The slide and side walls I'd probably agree it's likely; the jaws and most certainly the base an static jaw "base" are certainly cast - you can see the sand impressions\.

 

[General Geoff]

How do you know? The slide and side walls I'd probably agree it's likely; the jaws and most certainly the base an static jaw "base" are certainly cast - you can see the sand impressions\.

I have plenty of drop forged steel tools with the same kind of rough finish.

Yost advertises it as a forged steel body, so it's possible the swivel base is iron or cast steel.

 

[zoomieport]

Nice Prentiss 58 just ended on fleaBay at $1663. Yowza.

Did you happen to get the REED 208 that sold in Pittsburg, PA. Monday afternoon?

I hope so!

I thought about it...

Take care!
ZOOM

 

[PghJKB]

Here it is after an E-tank bath and ran across the wire wheel, looks like new. But, not a manufacturers mark or even any kind of a part # to be found. Any ideas?

454
Couple of manufacturers made this style including Parker (there is currently a Parker 303 on EvilPrey) and Erie Tool Works (do a Google search on "empire vise")

The closest I can come to it is patent (#577845) was awarded to Alexander Eckert 2 Mar 1897. It is the first patent I could find with a half round slide with a key on top. His vise is actually a swivel jaw, yours does not have that feature.

Am always looking, perhaps I will come across your exact model.

Here is a link to the patent and an image of it.

Patent URL: http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...6S1=0577845.PN.%26OS=pn/577845%26RS=PN/577845

If I needed to pull a manufacturer out of my ****, I would guess Erie Tool Works, but not their Empire Model Line

JKB

 

[GETRIDAONE]

I have seen a couple of other brands of this type but don't recall who they were ? Possible Athol and Yost. I have never seen a small clamp-on
Parker is on left and the black one is Erie.

 

[dutchgray]

There are several vices just like that forged welded Yost available over here, some are Europe and others not, they are probably the best you can get for the price in a new vice, everything else at that level is taking a chance with cheap Chinese casting.
They may be light weight but they are strong enough.

 

[TankMech88]

Hey all, this is on of my wiltons and I can't find any info online. Can anyone identify it and give a year range it was made? There is no date stamp on the jaw/slide or anywhere else I can see. The markings are 111093 on the side of the jaw, 111092 on the vise body and 101193 on the base. There is also a "N2" on the side on the body. Obviously it's marked Schiller park, IL. Thanks for anything you guys got.



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[zoomieport]

Hey all, this is on of my wiltons and I can't find any info online. Can anyone identify it and give a year range it was made? There is no date stamp on the jaw/slide or anywhere else I can see. The markings are 111093 on the side of the jaw, 111092 on the vise body and 101193 on the base. There is also a "N2" on the side on the body. Obviously it's marked Schiller park, IL. Thanks for anything you guys got.

I'm thinking #744 (assuming its got 4" jaws), 1970's...?

Edit: Are there spaces for pipe jaws under the machinists jaws? It is actually referred to as a "mechanics" vise, I believe...

Take care!
ZOOM

 

[TankMech88]

I'm thinking #744 (assuming its got 4" jaws), 1970's...?



Edit: Are there spaces for pipe jaws under the machinists jaws? It is actually referred to as a "mechanics" vise, I believe...



Take care!

ZOOM

It does not have space for pipe jaws so it is in fact a mechanics vise and it indeed is a 4"er. Thanks for the info! Possibly 70's huh? Wish there was a date stamp, seems odd.


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[zoomieport]

Actually, I thought the #744 had pipe jaws, I haven't had one in a while...
The boys will be here in a minute to take care of you!

Take care!
ZOOM

 

[Shiftless]

I recently picked up this little guy. No markings except for a rather cryptic abbreviation cast into the static jaw tower. "patent applied for"
No clamp but it has 2 holes to screw it into the front edge of a work table.
Curved slide open at the bottom. The screw has a retainer collar like Reeds and others.
Jaws are exactly one inch wide and the whole vise weighs in at a whopping 5 ounces.
Anybody have clues as to maker and or age?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Z3K3Y]

Hey folks, been a while since i posted, Earlier on in the year i picked up a Record No 35P . Now im finally getting around to taking it apart, but im having some trouble

At the end of screw there was a cotter pin holding a ring in place, i managed to get the cotter pin out, but i cant get the ring to budge, there is very little clearance to get something in there.. i tried opening the jaw all the way to force the ring off with no luck.

Another thing that is differnet with this vise is the floating nut on the bottom.. im wondering if i have to do something with that?

heres some pictures so i can show you better what i mean.

 

[454ragtop]

I recently picked up this little guy. No markings except for a rather cryptic abbreviation cast into the static jaw tower. "patent applied for"
No clamp but it has 2 holes to screw it into the front edge of a work table.
Curved slide open at the bottom. The screw has a retainer collar like Reeds and others.
Jaws are exactly one inch wide and the whole vise weighs in at a whopping 5 ounces.
Anybody have clues as to maker and or age?
Thanks in advance.

Looks like a Colton patent vise. Look on the front face of the static jaw, underneath the jaw, usually there is an 18__ date there. I posted some pics of mine a few days ago, and as I acquired them scattered thru out this mega thread.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6012458&highlight=Colton#post6012458

 

[dutchgray]

I have never had a 35p but usually with Records that are plain screw you have to remove the roll pin that holds the spring that takes up the slack in the screw before you can get the screw out which you need to do because the closed end of the slide won't go past the nut. Open it up a couple inches, turn it over and look in the dynamic slide at the handle end.

 

[General Geoff]

I recently picked up this little guy. No markings except for a rather cryptic abbreviation cast into the static jaw tower. "patent applied for"
No clamp but it has 2 holes to screw it into the front edge of a work table.
Curved slide open at the bottom. The screw has a retainer collar like Reeds and others.
Jaws are exactly one inch wide and the whole vise weighs in at a whopping 5 ounces.
Anybody have clues as to maker and or age?
Thanks in advance.

That's a really neat little vise! Sorry I wish I could give you more info on it.

 

[Z3K3Y]

I have never had a 35p but usually with Records that are plain screw you have to remove the roll pin that holds the spring that takes up the slack in the screw before you can get the screw out which you need to do because the closed end of the slide won't go past the nut. Open it up a couple inches, turn it over and look in the dynamic slide at the handle end.

im not seeing any type of roll pin anywhere.. here is some more pictures , there is only about a 10th of an inch of gap to get the ring off the end of the screw.

 

[dutchgray]

Its not the usual Record arrangement, you are right, that collar has to come off. If you wire or clamp the vice shut and unwind the screw it should push it off.