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My garage build: 70x30 detached

Dave_Car_Guy

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Hi all. I've been lurking here for a long time, happy for all the great ideas and help, so I guess it's about time for me to join in. By way of intro, I thought I'd share my garage build. I'll do this in a few posts as I get time...

It started in 2012, as others here have said: when my wife wanted to build a new house. All good with me, as long as I get to build a new detached garage! I had been starting to collect few cars and had them stored in a warehouse but that was highly unsatisfying. I wanted garage to work in, to entertain in, to play poker in, to watch TV in. It needed to be far enough from the house and the bedrooms so that my noise working nor coming/going would wake anyone. It needed full AC and heat, and a bathroom with shower to be fully self-contained. It needed big sound capabilities for SONOS and TV watching. It needed floors that would survive oil and gas as well as poker-night beer and peanuts messes to be easily washed out.

We found a one-acre lot with a knock-down ranch house about a mile outside of our town's downtown area, but still feeling rural, and 30 miles from San Francisco.

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The lower section of the lot was perfect for a detached garage of 70' x 30', which would be about 100 feet away from the main house.

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My only problem was that town regulations limited separate structures to 15-feet high. So, given that, I couldn't make the garage as wide as I wanted (40 feet) or it would require a very flat roof (I wanted 10 feet ceilings, just enough if I ever added a small lift), so a 15-foot max high structure that was 40 feet wide would have had a very flat roof. We settled on 30-wide so the 5 feet above the ceiling line to the roof peak had some reasonable roof slope/pitch, and figured we could offset some of the flatness with gable features. With the lot surrounded on 3 sides by roads, I was going to also have to do a lot of landscaping to get some privacy. We knocked down the old house and prepped for foundation:

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Foundation poured for a 70x30 structure. The idea is to make essentially 3-car garage entrance, but make the garage then 3-cars deep (hence 9 cars), and leave 10 feet of the rear as a storage room (10x20) with a 10x10 full bathroom.

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I didn't get too dirty doing any work, but this shows the end of the garage where the three bay doors will be.

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We wanted the garage to not appear to just be a garage, so we designed teh externals to make it look like a complete guest house (and since it has heat, air, and water, I suppose it could always be converted into a full house some day). So framing looked like this, inside and out.

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Once it was enclosed, you get a sense of what it started to look like, particularly from the "business end" of things. You can also now see what I mean when I say a wider structure would have a flatter roof (imagine stretching that wider but keeping the peak at 15-feet).

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You can also see where it is shaping up relative to the house up above. (back of house in foreground, garage in distance downhill)

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I'll post the next steps in just a bit. Hint: the place is finished so I'll get through this build thread quickly!!
 
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Follow-up post, garage build update #2:

Next steps were to get the final external details done, you can start to see the internal dimensions here, and then the raw stucco, which will be colored with permanent coloring (no paint ever required), plus tile roof, etc. At this point, the electrical is going in to accommodate an electric vehicle and all other stuff. So its a 150 amp sub-panel off the main house, which has 400 amps, and 6 KW of PV Solar panels. So I get "free" fuel for my EV!

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Inside, we installed custom cabinets, and went with lighting for various moods and uses. There will be two sets of canned lights on different switches: for spot-lighting cars and for general light. Wall sconces for theater-style lighting, and custom barrel lights for museum/lobby style lighting. All dim-able and mostly LED for efficiency. Once lights were in, you can see the flooring better: It is epoxy over a four-color chip mix. I was going for black, tan, white, mocha to really offset oil and dirt and still match the outside look.

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Th stop of the workbench is a solid piece of polished stainless steel for durability.

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We choose pavers for the driveway because we don't like cracks in the concrete! I was surprised to find pavers cheaper than concrete as well.

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Almost ready for move-in!!

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I'd love love LOVE to knock the house down next to me and do the same.

Did the city give you any grief when you showed them your plans?
 
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Garage Update #3:

So, there were a few other details to be taken care of, including
bathroom fixtures
motorized, remote-controlled shades by Somfy,
multiple video cameras,
alarm system,
full fire suppression system,
Sonos sound system, and Cable and Wi-fi.

So then I got to drive in and watch a movie:

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Started moving my cars from the warehouse and adding artwork:

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Outside, we started landscaping and adding the small vineyard next to the garage to produce Concord grapes and Zinfandel grapes. You can see the garage now where it sits down the lot past the pool and what will be the vineyard. Quite a change from the first photos of a dirt lot!

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Since completion, I've added art from people like Garage Art (thanks!), Gas Pump Heaven, etc. And added a couple cars along the way, plus a 1958 Vendo 81 Coke Machine - the oldest thing in the garage.

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And the garage gets plenty of use a a place to work on cars, cash grapes during harvest, play poker, watch football, work out.

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And three years into it, you can see the landscaping has moved along nicely!

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I'd love love LOVE to knock the house down next to me and do the same.

Did the city give you any grief when you showed them your plans?

No grief from the City. Except that they didn't like my initial plan of a structure 20 feet high with 14 foot ceilings. So it had to be 10 foot ceilings and a roofline no higher than 15 feet. If i had wanted a higher structure, I had to find a way to keep it attached. That would have been a looooong hallway!!
 

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Nice stable of toys! The grapes are what leads me to think that wire fence is a vine trellis, yes?

That's actually a neat addition to the yard, if so.
 
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All that and a Mini Cooper.

Is that your blue GT3?

Ha!! Both my daughters have Mini Coopers (2009 and 2012). The pink one is a vinyl wrap over red, and was hanging out in my garage for a semester while my daughter was off at college. Had to move it back up to the other garage just to retain a little red, ya know? My green Cayman is also a vinyl wrap over black, and the McLaren in blue is the same as the McLaren in black. Another vinyl wrap. Recently had the pink vinyl removed after 3 years and the red paint underneath is factory perfect. Love vinyl!

As for the GT#, not mine unfortunately! It belongs to my neighbor, and the maroon McLaren is another neighbor... just before we all went for a little fun drive. The beautiful Blue GT3 just got traded in... he is picking up a McLaren today (570S) that he ordered 6 months ago. Can't wait to see it!
 

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Nice!!! I recognize your cars and garage from thecarlounge forum. Love your garage build! I have plans to start on a "showroom" next. Love your layout.

Welcome!
 

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You are living the dream my friend. Too bad you can only drive one at a time!!

What a well designed and executed project. Well done!

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Nice!!! I recognize your cars and garage from thecarlounge forum. Love your garage build! I have plans to start on a "showroom" next. Love your layout.

Welcome!

Thanks! I like the sound of "showroom" in Texas - where everything is big, so keep us posted! Lots of great ideas in all these forums, so I'm sure you'll have fun planning - it's just hard narrowing down what you want when you start from scratch!
 

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Wow. Spectacular and I really like how all the landscaping has come in. You have done a great job with keeping the garage blended in to the house and yard.

Great cars but I think I spot a motorcycle in there also?
 
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Wow. Spectacular and I really like how all the landscaping has come in. You have done a great job with keeping the garage blended in to the house and yard.

Great cars but I think I spot a motorcycle in there also?

Good eye! That's my 1985 Kawasaki ZX600 Ninja, just like the one I bought in 1985 when I got out of college. This is an 11,000 mile survivor with no mods in all original condition. Hard to find because so many were run into the ground, crashed, or rusted to bits. I still love this bike!

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And it is amazing just how far landscaping can grow in just under 4 years now. Here is a photo from just last week...even though it's Fall, the coverage has given us the privacy we sought. Note the house on the hill behind us for reference to initial lot photos.

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Beautiful garage and toy collection. What's the story behind the vineyard? Are you all hobbyists just making some wine?

Yes, just a hobby and a small mount of wine. I've brewed beer in the past and enjoyed it, and here in California everyone seems to make wine, so I though I'd try... grapes are surprisingly easy to grow. Wine is surprisingly easy to make... poorly. Extremely hard to make it properly. So it's a labor of love. we have 21 Zinfandel plants and 24 Concord plants (for eating). From the Zin plants, I get about 200-300 lbs of grapes. Using 200 pounds I can make 10-15 gallons of good wine (roughly 50-75 bottles). Easy, just grow grapes, pick grapes, separate grapes, crush, ferment, age, bottle. Profit (not). Drink.

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I also use the garage for woodworking/furniture, a new hobby of mine. Funny how more things become available to do when you have time and space!

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Wait, No lift ? ? ? Just kidding man !! this is a beautiful garage !!
 

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The landscaping is indeed amazing. Gives that dusty lot in the first picture a completely different feel. Would be interested in pictures of the main house as well. Congrats on a such a sweet house.
 
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Wait, No lift ? ? ? Just kidding man !! this is a beautiful garage !!

i'm considering small two-post lift in one corner to make basic maintenance under the cars a tad easier, but then it makes it harder to use the space differently through time. I am likely picking up a small scissor lift soon to try out on wheel and brake work.

Beautiful setup. What does the back of the garage ( street side) look like?

I don't have shots from down there...here's a a grainy screen shot from Google Street view!

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The landscaping is indeed amazing. Gives that dusty lot in the first picture a completely different feel. Would be interested in pictures of the main house as well. Congrats on a such a sweet house.

I appreciate the kind words, all! I grew up in a 2-bedroom 800 sf house with my single Mom and sharing an 8x10 bedroom with two other brothers, so all this is pretty new to me and I am lucky to be able to build this house and garage. I never take any of it for granted, that's for sure.

Here are some shots of the main house back when built. Again, you can get an appreciation for how much stuff has grown! House us 5400 sf, and since this is a build thread, I'll point out it is pier-on-grade-beam construction with about 120 concrete and steel piers going 12 feet underground. Expansive soil in our area makes building on slab a bad idea. The good news is that gives us a finishes 3-foot crawl space under the floor beams. We want to grow old here, so made it all one level. My wife likes high ceilings, so they're all 12-20 foot ceilings and wide hallways.

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Here's a bit of a walk around, clockwise, once it was completed:

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A couple Interiors, for those days when I absolutely must come in from the garage:

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Baffles my mind how much money some people have

Kudos to you

Yeah, it baffles me too. Especially since I started out with about 50 cents to my name. That's me on the right, circa 1972.

It's all relative! People in Bangladesh cannot conceive of a house as beautiful as yours in Indiana (you have a very beautiful house and terrific shop!!).

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The house is beautiful, very tasteful and not over done. So many builders in our area throw so much "detail" in to have the luxurious feel that they become gaudy in my opinion. That finished crawl space would sure be nice, nothing worse than crawling on plastic and finding the odd rock or concrete slag with a knee cap!
 

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Very impressed by the shop, but jaw dropped on that corner picture where you had the pool showing in front of the shop and next to the house. So amazing. Very well done.

Nonetheless, I wish you would have told me before you started building so I could buy the shack next door. I would love to mooch off the property value increase :)

Awesome build, I loved reading this thread. Thank you.
 

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beautiful! Love the flow of your space. Very impressive car collection. Do you have a favourite if you could pick only one?
 
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