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Is it possible? Wireless security cameras that tie to the internet.

1320stang

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I live at the entrance to our neighborhood. There are about 14 1.5 acre lots here but only 7 houses. We're split off from the rest of the 90 lot neighborhood by a dry creek so only one way in and out.

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My neighbors and I would like to monitor who comes in and who leaves. One neighbor just got her trailer stolen yesterday morning.

My thought was to put up a wireless camera that would connect to my wifi that could put the video on the internet so that anyone on our side of the neighborhood could access it and review the video. The thought being that after so many days, the footage would roll off being saved.

Is there anything out there like this? I'm also open to other similar ideas. I searched to forum and didn't find what I was looking for, but I also google searched the web, I'm not very good and doing searches.
 
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How far from the nearest WIFI access point will the camera be? There are plenty of WIFI cameras out there, but getting signal out to them will be the issue if it's really far away. You would need power out there too...
 

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We are putting these Cuda Cams in for a job right now: https://www.barracuda.com/products/cudacam

They don't even need a DVR, they go right to a cloud for viewing. Only drawback is I am sure there is a monthly fee for the usage. We aren't the end user so I can't help on that end.

I believe a standard DVR (wire cameras) you can put say 8 cameras around your house and let others only view certain ones. Only issue with that is people are logging into your DVR then. I don't know enough about IT, but it seems like it would be easy for someone to get onto your network then.
 

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We are putting these Cuda Cams in for a job right now: https://www.barracuda.com/products/cudacam

They don't even need a DVR, they go right to a cloud for viewing. Only drawback is I am sure there is a monthly fee for the usage. We aren't the end user so I can't help on that end.

I believe a standard DVR (wire cameras) you can put say 8 cameras around your house and let others only view certain ones. Only issue with that is people are logging into your DVR then. I don't know enough about IT, but it seems like it would be easy for someone to get onto your network then.

You just put the DVR on a VLAN, then they are jailed to only accessing that device.
 

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You just put the DVR on a VLAN, then they are jailed to only accessing that device.

I haven't even figured out how to access my own DVR from outside the network. Technology is too confusing for me with all the numbers you need to put in and whatnot.
 

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Amen to that.....feel like the IT dummy. Too DVR....LAN....ABC.....what the hell are all those. When folks do explain....and thanks to all that do.....they assume TA know all these acronyms. Confusing for us dummies.
 

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Amen to that.....feel like the IT dummy. Too DVR....LAN....ABC.....what the hell are all those. When folks do explain....and thanks to all that do.....they assume TA know all these acronyms. Confusing for us dummies.

DVR is a Digital Video Recorder, if you have sattelite or cable TV you probably have one that records your favorite shows. This does the same thing, with your cameras.

LAN is a local area network, it's any device that's on the network in your house, either plugged in directly, or via WiFi.
 

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while i personally have a few Hikvision cameras setup to a DVR, if your not to savvy i would recommend the cloud based options. They're ridiculously simple to setup and you can have a shared user/pass so anyone who wants to view can access it. Like RoyBell said it will have a monthly fee but they are usually nominal.

The Nest (Dropcam) cameras are great quality, super simple and i think start at something like $5/month for cloud recording.
 

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I have two Arlo (by Netgear) wireless cameras set up on my place, and I'm getting ready to add a third.
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They work great. Super easy setup. Lithium batteries typically last six months or so. The app allows rules to be set for motion detection and notification, and online viewing of live feed and saved video via any 'net-enabled device.

Daytime video is quite good. Nightime via IR LED illumination is satisfactory.

I'm perfectly satisfied with the Arlo system. I noticed Costco had them over the weekend in the warehouse -- first I've seen them there, at about $230 (IIRC) for two-camera plus wireless base station kit.

Here's my driveway in daylight:
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I have a set of Arlo Pro Cameras...

The Arlo Pro with rechargable batteries and line-powered option, looks like a real upgrade to my now 1½ year old system!

Gotta check to see if those cameras are compatible with my base...
 

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Those Arlos last 6 months on a charge? How is that even possible?

My older cameras use four non-rechargeable CR123 lithium cells. I don't have that many alerts and I don't monitor the live feed that often. Six months service more or less fershure.

I like the idea of a rechargeable.
 
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Those Arlos look nice but I think the limitation for my applications would be that they would need to be within a wireless network range. I assume anyway. I am looking at options for cameras out at the entrance of my driveway which would be a few hundred feet. I'm not too tech savvy but I am thinking I would need to run network cable (up to 328 ft.), in which case I would use POI cameras and not need the batteries. Correct?
 

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May pick up a couple of those Arlos for the GFs house now that it's vacant. We have had those battery spy cameras in the past, and they did work to catch her EX in the house...but the batteries only last about 3 weeks at most and it also stored to a memory card. 6 months while uploading video is pretty damn amazing. I went through some of the reviews last night on Amazon and it seemed pretty positive.
 
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I like the Arlo system so far. I have it setup with Geofencing and Scheduling so if my wife and I both leave it'll arm the system. If one of us is still home or come home, then it'll disarm it. For times where we are both home and want it armed (ie night), it will divert to using the schedule we have setup.
 

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Those Arlos look nice but I think the limitation for my applications would be that they would need to be within a wireless network range. I assume anyway. I am looking at options for cameras out at the entrance of my driveway which would be a few hundred feet. I'm not too tech savvy but I am thinking I would need to run network cable (up to 328 ft.), in which case I would use POI cameras and not need the batteries. Correct?

That is correct.

To save googling for those that don't know, you probably mean POE, Power Over Ethernet, a protocol where power is sent over the 2 unused pairs in a network cable. (Although I think they can put power and network signals on the same wires now.)
 

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Larry, others have said these things, but I want to summarize and give my personal experience.

The most cost-effective solution will be an inexpensive wifi camera solution. I assume you have a wireless network in your house.
Make sure you have a good signal at the location you would like to mount your camera. I assume on the outside of your home, under an eave pointing toward the neighborhood entrance/exit. If you don't, there are ways to get your wifi signal out there with extra preparation.

You will still need to power it, so will need to run a power cable in to the eave, in to the attic, then to power somewhere. Apparently there are great options out there that run on batteries, I don't know the cost. But once installed, it will be so much simpler to never have to worry about the battery charge.

I have used D-Link equipment. I have a D-Link dvr device (very cheap, has no storage). Then I bought a $50 USB external hard drive to plug in to the dvr device. The whole setup was pretty inexpensive and now everything gets recorded.

Once it's all installed, along with the software, you can view the live feed and the recordings over the internet from your phone or computer.
And D-Link provides a web-site you use to access it all, so you don't need to mess with your router/firewall settings and create a security hole to your local network.

Your neighbors could then be given the id/password to the D-Link account and have full access to it, again, without you having to open up your home network to them.

There are going to be many other companies that all have the same things.

One thought. Make sure the camera resolution is good enough to get license plate numbers off of the vehicles as they leave. You may have to pay a premium for that, but it won't be all that helpful if you can't get it.

And if the exit is too far from the camera, the built-in IR illumination won't travel far enough for good viewing at night. Consider putting in an IR light source near the exit that will illuminate the vehicles as they leave for the camera to pick up. I have no idea if that's easily done or not....
 

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The Nest Drop Cams have allot of great reviews and they just released an outdoor model. They do require power and Wifi! Cheers, wp.
 
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My property is at the top of the page, for scale, from the edge of my concrete driveway to the edge of the street is 100' (I'm hoping to extend my driveway one day and I was estimating how much the 20'x100' would be.)

My wireless connection is currently at the opposite end of my house, probably right under the last roof vent you see closest to the trees, so that's about 200' to the stop sign. However, my neighbor's shop is much closer, and he installs network lines for the state in their buildings, so he may be in the know on something like this and we might be able to set it up near his corner post in his backyard facing into the neighborhood.

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Cloud storage would be my preference. As you look up the street in the ground view photo, the neighbor that got her trailer stolen lives at the end of the cul-de-sac at that end. She got it back today, with the mulch still in it. Turns out the guy had stolen a trailer with a quad as well and left it somewhere on someone else's property until the coast was clear. They found it and called the sheriff, he's been in jail before, now he's back.
 

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Arlo Go will do cloud storage and runs off 4-6 month batteries and AT&T 3G/4G LTE. No wires or wifi, so can be placed anywhere as long as it's not easy to find and steal. Release date coming soon.

A Wifi version might be preferable if you can make it work?

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So I looked at the Arlo Go, seems promising, but what is the monthly fee thru AT&T?
Haven't seen that info yet. May be out there or it might not come out until closer to the release date. There's a forum on the Arlo website that might have info.

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I had an alert just before sunrise today -- a raccoon snooping around the doors tripped the motion sensor on my garage-mounted Arlo camera.

The cloud service that comes standard with purchase allows me to share a link, and the clip will stay in the clouds for a few days.

For those who are interested in real-world quality of the battery-operated camera, mounted about eighty feet from my router and base station, here's a look:

https://arlo.netgear.com/hmsweb/users/library/share/link/A9F5DAD656BE6E54_201612
 

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That is great night vision. How much ambient light do you have there? What happens if you need the video from the net? Can you download it or is that extra?
 

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That is great night vision. How much ambient light do you have there? What happens if you need the video from the net? Can you download it or is that extra?

There are a pair of 60W equivalent LED bulbs over the garage doors, but the night vision is mainly due to the IR LEDs on board the Arlo camera. The night vision of the camera along the driveway is the same with no light in that area.

The video on the cloud is easily saved to a PC -- piece of cake.
 

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Well I am sold on this system. We will be picking up a 3 camera set for the SO's house since it is vacant. We go there on a weekend once in a while, but otherwise it sits idle. I imagine batteries should last a while since there is very little action.

I see they have a pro system out which has rechargeable batteries and some other newer features...But the cost is a lot more. Even if you have to put new batteries in three times a year, it would take almost 4 years to break even with the price difference. $357 vs $580. $223 difference buys 11 battery changes for all 3 cameras.
 

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If you are handy with computers and comfortable with Linux, a free application is available to act as a full-featured, open source, state-of-the-art video surveillance software system.

ZoneMinder

The benefits? You are in control of your cameras and software, not locked in to proprietary software and limited selection of cameras. It's possible to use an older computer to run the system. It's available at no charge.
 

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They do make trail cameras, the ones hunters use, that will send a pic directly to an e mail or cell phone. Battery powered, strap to a tree or post etc.. you will need to figure a way to lock it to a tree or post or hide it well so it doesn't get stolen
 

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Make sure whatever brand you get has updated software, you review all the security settings and make the necessary changes and that you run a good firewall with tight settings in front of it.

https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA16-288A

https://www.wired.com/2016/12/botnet-broke-internet-isnt-going-away/

Researchers connecting web enabled cams have reported infections in as little as 95 seconds. Also, the source code for mirai has been released on the internet, so all the script kiddies can now join in the fun.
 

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Well I am sold on this system. We will be picking up a 3 camera set for the SO's house since it is vacant. We go there on a weekend once in a while, but otherwise it sits idle. I imagine batteries should last a while since there is very little action.

I see they have a pro system out which has rechargeable batteries and some other newer features...But the cost is a lot more. Even if you have to put new batteries in three times a year, it would take almost 4 years to break even with the price difference. $357 vs $580. $223 difference buys 11 battery changes for all 3 cameras.

An update on this system- Awesome, for what it is. We have it on the GFs vacant house, which her daughters visit occasionally.

Two outside and one inside. They have been up for a month and have 90% battery left after a month. I seem to have one that is bad so I need to send it back for an exchange, but it's on the back of the house so not as important. I can view but it keeps saying there's motion so I had to turn motion off. Also had one camera hang up and drain the battery almost completely the first week. It has been fine the past 3 weeks now so hopefully a one time thing.

At this rate, I can see one set of batteries easily lasting 9 months. Obviously due to being vacant it gets little record time. But, one someone does visit the house I know immediately and can see what's going on. Thanks for whoever posted these cameras, as they were what we needed.
 
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