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Opinions On These Sockets? Impact Damage

CloudsRest

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Are these sockets worth keeping? I got them on ebay to keep in my truck as trail tools because I want sockets I can rely on (my truck is getting older and I'm finding myself working on it more and more). I paid $41 for them and I have the option of returning them or requesting a partial refund. I'm honestly kind of surprised the drive sockets have mushroomed out so much without breaking, but then again I've never used chrome sockets on an impact (these sockets are damaged from impact use, right?). The chrome is also flaking on some of them like they were left outside for a while.

Is Blue Point just that good, or are these likely to break when I put them on a breaker bar and jump up and down on the handle in the middle of the woods?
 

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if you have to question them then its very simple. return them.

This...not what you were expecting it sounds like...

also, don't take risks with tools in your truck kit. they don't need to be expensive, but they do need to be in good working order.

good luck...
 

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I wouldn't want them, they been beaten to snot on an impact.
If keeping in truck I would look at something new and not too expensive from perhaps tekton which if a full set comes in blow moulded case, could grab a gearwrench set or keep looking for better condition used usa set on ebay craigs list etc. Trouble is most used sets tend have pretty warn common sizes so want buy brand that you know can warranty odd socket easy.
 

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Blue Point is a good name. They are a product of Snap On but cheaper usually. I always hear that Blue Point are not made in the USA but I don't know if that's the case.

Having said that, I wouldn't want those. If you can, as you say, return them then do. If they were something I couldn't return they would go in the box with junk and broken pieces.
 

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Whoa, $41 for 12 damaged Blue Point sockets... Send them back with the quickness. If you want a good deal, let us know your price range and what you need. People on here get their rocks off searching for good deals for other members. They'll find you better better sockets, for less money in no time.

By the way, welcome to the Journal. Prepare to devote a large portion of your life to buying tools.
 

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I payed less than that for a set of tw impact sockets , brand new and working well for about a year now, didn't have a 18 mm though
 

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This is a good use of $35 bucks
 

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I wouldn't want them. When I first got my impact gun, I didn't have impact sockets yet, so like a dummy I used some craftsman chrome sockets to take off some stuck lug nuts. The square end looked like those when I was done. When I tried to use them later on a ratchet, they just fell off because I hogged the square hole out so bad.

So yeah, send them back. Your ratchet/breaker might not even hold them on.
 

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I was wondering, if Blue Point belong to Snap, wouldn't that mean that Snap on sells the exact same products under their brand? Because it would be totally inefficient to manufacture a product in two different qualities. Even if you sell them at a higher price, that would not justify duplicate manufacturing capabilities. So that means that when you buy Snap on you are a sucker for paying more for the same product?
 

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I was wondering, if Blue Point belong to Snap, wouldn't that mean that Snap on sells the exact same products under their brand? Because it would be totally inefficient to manufacture a product in two different qualities. Even if you sell them at a higher price, that would not justify duplicate manufacturing capabilities. So that means that when you buy Snap on you are a sucker for paying more for the same product?

lol

u are a brave man
 

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I was wondering, if Blue Point belong to Snap, wouldn't that mean that Snap on sells the exact same products under their brand? Because it would be totally inefficient to manufacture a product in two different qualities. Even if you sell them at a higher price, that would not justify duplicate manufacturing capabilities. So that means that when you buy Snap on you are a sucker for paying more for the same product?

Blue Point sockets are made overseas, likely by a third party. Snap On makes their own sockets here in the states.

And plenty of manufacturers make several levels of quality product. It's certainly up for debate whether Snap On makes their USA Williams sockets to the same specs that they make their own sockets to. They might, but it's completely plausible that they spec a lower quality steel or something to help keep the costs lower.

And with Snap On, the cost isn't all in the product. It's in the service and support that you receive. So even if Williams sockets are identical, you're not getting the same service and warranty. Of course, if you don't work professionally, you're likely not going to see the benefits of that service and warranty that you paid for.
 

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No non-impact socket will withstand damage from using them with an impact. They might be OK for a lifetime of use or they might crack and cause injury to you and whatever you're working on. Furthermore, any warranty you may have had is gone because of the abuse. I would return them for a refund ASAP.
 
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Send them back. IMO I could never see paying 41.00 for a hand full of sockets ( new or used ) no matter what name was on them. for that money you can get 2 sets of teckton impact sockets. btw - I have several sets of teckton impact sockets , use them all the time with a 1,000 ftlbs impact with zero issues.
 

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Dude, those are super rare Blue Point CDX drive licensed from Facom...

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^ I may be mistaken, but I believe I'm seeing a 24mm in one of those first photos the OP posted. That package above doesn't go that far up.
 

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Are these sockets worth keeping? I got them on ebay to keep in my truck as trail tools because I want sockets I can rely on (my truck is getting older and I'm finding myself working on it more and more). I paid $41 for them and I have the option of returning them or requesting a partial refund. I'm honestly kind of surprised the drive sockets have mushroomed out so much without breaking, but then again I've never used chrome sockets on an impact (these sockets are damaged from impact use, right?). The chrome is also flaking on some of them like they were left outside for a while.

Is Blue Point just that good, or are these likely to break when I put them on a breaker bar and jump up and down on the handle in the middle of the woods?

Okay so if you are at home and you break a socket you likely can grab another from your tool chest and continue on. Worst case is you have to make it down the store and pick up a replacement.

Now, seeing as these are you be used "in the middle of the woods" replay the scenario of the broken socket when you are alone and out of cell phone range. :shocking:

I know I would return them
 
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Alright, I guess these sockets are as bad off as I thought. I just hadn't seen sockets worn out like that before. The seller is being nice at least and is offering a refund.

I had no idea about Toptul--I just did some googling and they seem like a no-brainer for trail tools. $47 shipped is something I can handle for a complete set like that. Thanks for the help!
 

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^^^^^^^Good choice because you got f*cked on that last deal even if they we're perfect really no way would I pay more than $1 a piece for a used socket other than a newer snap on which I pay $5 a piece at my favorite flea market and I would pay a $1 a piece for anything but a USA made industrial brand even. I buy a small shoe box full of USA craftsman and usually some sk sockets at my local pawn shop for $5 and get at least 50 sockets so that's 10 cents a piece and that's all a craftsman is worth to me no way I'd pay more.
For $41 I could have 401 sockets
 

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When you compare that Toptul set to a set from Lowes or HD, Crescent, etc. its actually kind of expensive. I don't own any Toptul sockets, but did recently buy a 1/4" flex head ratchet and its nothing special. Not even Harbor Freight quality. So lets say the metric set is $47, sae $47, then a ratchet in each size for $10 each, extensions, oh and then deep sockets in each and you're looking at quite a bit of money. I think your money could be better spent on a self contained tool set that you can tuck behind the seat and go. I have at least 3 Husky black chrome sets, one in each of my 3 trucks, a Crescent set in my truck at work, and a Benchtop set in my girls car. For quick, side of the road repairs they're perfect because they have everything you need. This is the Crescent set I have. It's $110 on this site. Husky, Kobalt and Craftsman sets can be found for dirt cheap this time of year and are worth it for something like this
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Alright, I guess these sockets are as bad off as I thought. I just hadn't seen sockets worn out like that before. The seller is being nice at least and is offering a refund.

I had no idea about Toptul--I just did some googling and they seem like a no-brainer for trail tools. $47 shipped is something I can handle for a complete set like that. Thanks for the help!

Did the seller describe the socket condition and post pictures?

I see everyone on here shouting "send them back" , "return them", 'you got ripped off'.

I'd like to give the seller the benefit of the doubt for once. Too many buyers on eBay these days that don't read descriptions or view the pictures, then expect sellers to eat the shipping costs(both ways, BTW), eBay fees, and negative feedback.

I'm glad to see that he is flexible and offering a full refund.

And yes, Toptul is very good value; I have a set of the 1/2 metric deeps.
 
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Did the seller describe the socket condition and post pictures?

I see everyone on here shouting "send them back" , "return them", 'you got ripped off'.

I'd like to give the seller the benefit of the doubt for once. Too many buyers on eBay these days that don't read descriptions or view the pictures, then expect sellers to eat the shipping costs(both ways, BTW), eBay fees, and negative feedback.

I'm glad to see that he is flexible and offering a full refund.

And yes, Toptul is very good value; I have a set of the 1/2 metric deeps.

As someone who sells a lot on eBay, I understand completely. It's honestly pretty rare IME for eBay sellers to severely misrepresent an item, but this was one of those times.

They described the sockets as being in "good condition" and posted pictures that showed some very nice sockets. When I went back to the listing to look at the pictures again, eBay showed me other items from the seller, including another Blue Point socket set that had the exact same pictures in addition to a few more that were zoomed in on the drive side and showed them to be in excellent condition. I pointed this out to the seller, and they were quick to offer a refund.

It's good to hear another vote for Toptul. As soon as the seller refunds my Paypal account I'm going to use the credit to order that set on eBay.
 
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When you compare that Toptul set to a set from Lowes or HD, Crescent, etc. its actually kind of expensive. I don't own any Toptul sockets, but did recently buy a 1/4" flex head ratchet and its nothing special. Not even Harbor Freight quality. So lets say the metric set is $47, sae $47, then a ratchet in each size for $10 each, extensions, oh and then deep sockets in each and you're looking at quite a bit of money. I think your money could be better spent on a self contained tool set that you can tuck behind the seat and go. I have at least 3 Husky black chrome sets, one in each of my 3 trucks, a Crescent set in my truck at work, and a Benchtop set in my girls car. For quick, side of the road repairs they're perfect because they have everything you need. This is the Crescent set I have. It's $110 on this site. Husky, Kobalt and Craftsman sets can be found for dirt cheap this time of year and are worth it for something like this
CTK148__61444.1465236569.1280.1280.jpg

http://www.penntoolco.com/ctk148/?g...G8_lasD5onPD8h32slmBICsG_P-DJ_q9zwhoCcenw_wcB

That is an awesome set and some good advice. If I didn't already have extra ratchets and pliers lying around, I would scoop that up. I have some Taiwanese-made Crescent tools that have held up very well for the price, better than current Craftsman IMO. They were my primary trail tools until I decided to expand my kit to cover more substantial repairs.
 

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When you compare that Toptul set to a set from Lowes or HD, Crescent, etc. its actually kind of expensive.

Toptul is more akin to professional designed tools also made in taiwan, like Bluepoint, Williams, or Carlyle. :thumbup:

The aussies basically use the heck out of the stuff, as premium import tools are super expensive down under and their local production is all gone. Since asia is in the nighborhood they are a little more open to it.
 

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Look just like mine. I use 1/4" and 3/8" air ratchets anytime situation allows. Been using my Blue point since I stared my automotive career 4 1/2 yrs ago. Impact would leave heavier damage at both ends IMO.
 

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Easco are generally pretty good. The Army buys a lot of their stuff and I never had any issues from them.

Easco made Craftsman tools for years. When Sears started having issues, they started selling under their own name. Hardware stores and auto parts stores sold them. Danaher bought Easco back in the 1980s.
 
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