Expanding a Double and adding a Boat-Port in Calgary

[JohnnieMo]

I much prefer using Imgur for my hosting. Far simpler, no (or very few) ads, and IMO more robust of a service than anything else I've used. It also is the second best at not messing with the quality/compression of images uploaded. The winner there is Flikr but its not the easiest to manage.

Turbo - are you using a computer to do most of your uploading/posting, or are you using a phone?

I find anything works okay on a computer. However I take my pictures on the phone, I resize on the phone, upload on the phone, and then post using my phone. So I am really looking for a solution optimized for a mobile user. In my attempt at using Imgur, it tries to create an online photo album. I don't need that. I just need an online directory.

I already have Imgur, Photobucket, GoogleDrive and Dropbox. I am familiar with each of them. But none do all of the things I want. (and Dropbox has this habit of deleting ALL of your content with no warning.... including the backups on your computer, so no thanks)

 

[monty007]

Awesome job! I love the camera setup. Are you hard wiring the cameras and using POE or separate power supplies? Are you using a NAS for video storage or getting the cameras to just take pics upon motion and email you?

 

[JohnnieMo]

Awesome job! I love the camera setup. Are you hard wiring the cameras and using POE or separate power supplies? Are you using a NAS for video storage or getting the cameras to just take pics upon motion and email you?

Hi Monty. I bought an all-in-one kit from Costco.

The cameras are all analog, running through RG59 coax. So I need to run co-ax from the DVR out to each camera. It also has a power lead in the cable, so that is where your power comes from. You can supply power from anywhere, but this is easier since you are running to co-ax anyways.

It's not quite as good as a true digital system and PoE, but it is pretty close. When I bought it a year ago at $499 it was a steal of a deal. It came with 6 cameras and a 2TB PVR. Case and point, a year later and it is still the same price. I added the PTZ camera on my own for about $250.

If you have the funds, go PoE. It is a better solution.

I publish the "server" on the internet, so I can access it remote via a website, or via the app on my phone. Both work, but both sorta ****. It's ability to identify motion is weak. It basically just monitors the image for a visual alteration - for example, if a car shines its headlights on my front lawn, the system considers that motion. So it isn't really a motion detector, it is a change detector. The good news is that it gives false positives, but it doesn't ever miss a true lurker.

 

[monty007]

Thanks for the info and links Johnnie! I appreciate it.

 

[JohnnieMo]

Test using http://postimg.org




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Okay this one is a winner. It is dead simple. You upload your photos on a website that works easily on your phone or computer. It pre-selects a resolution for you and defaults to it every time. Once the file is uploaded, it stays forever. You have a one button click to copy the link and then post it.

Wow.... this is exactly what I was looking for. The only downside is it adds a link to your photo, but that can be deleted with ease.

 

[Slycox]

Test using http://postimg.org

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Okay this one is a winner. It is dead simple. You upload your photos on a website that works easily on your phone or computer. It pre-selects a resolution for you and defaults to it every time. Once the file is uploaded, it stays forever. You have a one button click to copy the link and then post it.

Wow.... this is exactly what I was looking for. The only downside is it adds a link to your photo, but that can be deleted with ease.

We can see your email address if we click on the picture and go to postimg.org. Not sure if you are aware of that.

 

[SiGmA_X]

I use imgur on my phone and computer (usually computer, phone posting is a pain! and I'm a millennial lol.) without complains. I don't log in to an account so I'm not sure if it would giveaway my email address like postimg did above... Maybe you should use a burner email - or not care, some people don't! I know my email is a few easy Google searches away from my username, so perhaps it doesn't really matter.

The top looks great, I like how it is all one now! And thank you for the biscuit lesson.

I have an OT question: What size ABS pipe did you use for your drill rack? Would the same size work for a 1/2" impact? Thanks!

 

[JohnnieMo]

Thanks guys. That is good feedback. I did not realize my email address was exposed, although that is mostly a "burner email" as it is.

I found a fairly significant downside to postimg. It is blocked by my corporation, so I can't see the photos when I'm at work. If they do that for me, it is likely many others have the same drawback. It is too bad as the function is exactly what I wanted.

 

[JohnnieMo]

Anyways, here is the final picture of the island. I sorta lost track, but this is about 5 coats of the triple thick varathane. So that would be the equivalent of 15 normal coats. The finish is pretty good. It has a nice sheen, but won't show scratches as easily as the gloss. It is definitely something I can wipe down easily. We will see what happens the first time I get grease all over it.



Overall, I was impressed with the Varathane. A lot of people give it bad reviews. They say it leaves ridges and brush marks. I actually used a foam brush (an apparent no no) and it worked great. There is some minor pitting and some small burrs, but not anything to worry about. If I wanted to I could take some steel wool to it, but I don't feel it is required. I would recommend this product to people.

I have a buddy coming tonight to help me install the "bowling lane". I'll post pics following.

 

[JohnnieMo]

Got the bowling lane installed. I fastened a 2x6 to the bottom in order to strengthen. At one point it made a scary noise, but otherwise was fine.











If you hadn't noticed, I really like how these turned out

After that I took some measurements for flooring. My handy little Bosch laser measure was a time saver.



The issue I have is this drainage channel I thought would be smart. As you can see, it is not level in one spot. I'm not sure whether to blame the new concrete or the old concrete. It is about 3/4" out. The only way to fix is to grind down the concrete. I'm not looking forward to that. (having never done it before)







I'm going to start running some numbers on surface area and cost to see what can be done. I'm still planning to do Swisstrax, although I'm not 100% sold on it just yet. Last time I calculated it was about $2600. My "new floor fund" needs an influx of cash before we get there.

 

[JohnnieMo]

I have an OT question: What size ABS pipe did you use for your drill rack? Would the same size work for a 1/2" impact? Thanks!

Here are your answers:





The pipe is about 4.5" OD. I think you could fit a proper impact gun in there. Mine is pneumatic, so I couldn't verify the fit of an electric. Just take your gun to the store and try it out You can always cut a larger hole for the handle. That seems to be the tightest part.

 

[SiGmA_X]

I had to grind around my lift pit. It was *super fun*. I rented a Hilti vacuum and a 7" grinder from Home Depot and bought a Dewalt grinding wheel on Amazon. Wear your PPE and kneepads and it won't be that bad... I'm really looking forward to doing more grinding when I put down tile in the [distant] future[/never], that should just be the best time ever.

Thanks for the pipe size info. I am debating pipe vs wood currently... I think wood is going to win. Either or will be deferred for a bit.

 

[Denwood]

Thanks for the LeD info. I used some in my daughters room around her loft bed skirting, but was underwhelmed. I'll give the Aled a try.

The bench looks amazing...very nicely done! I was wondering how the biscuit exercise would work at that length..and apparently it went ok .

On the concrete, I helped my neighbor grind his garage slab with a rental 220 volt floor grinder that came with a vacuum system. It was surprisingly fast, and the finish was so nice, he left it bare. It's either that, or a hand held system. Hopefully you're planning to seal the floor, yes?

The racedeck drain pad has been a real asset given our messy winters here. The one downside is that my wierd floor slope and drain location don't work as well as it could. I either need to reprofile the floor, add a drain, or cut an 18ft drain slot with some type of freeze protection.

 

[JohnnieMo]

I had to grind around my lift pit. It was *super fun*. I rented a Hilti vacuum and a 7" grinder from Home Depot and bought a Dewalt grinding wheel on Amazon. Wear your PPE and kneepads and it won't be that bad... I'm really looking forward to doing more grinding when I put down tile in the [distant] future[/never], that should just be the best time ever.

I watched some videos on the 7" grinder. Is this just literally an angle grinder with a 7" diamond wheel???

On the concrete, I helped my neighbor grind his garage slab with a rental 220 volt floor grinder that came with a vacuum system. It was surprisingly fast, and the finish was so nice, he left it bare. It's either that, or a hand held system. Hopefully you're planning to seal the floor, yes?

The racedeck drain pad has been a real asset given our messy winters here. The one downside is that my wierd floor slope and drain location don't work as well as it could. I either need to reprofile the floor, add a drain, or cut an 18ft drain slot with some type of freeze protection.

Well I do happen to have 220V. Can you comment on whether or not I can take down 3/4"? That seems like a lot of concrete to turn in to dust. As luck would have it (not) I also have one of my old foundation bolts in that spot, so I'll need to grind through some steel as well.

Here is an idea of the part I would need to flatten out. It is fairly big, and would slope progressively from 3/4" up to 0"



I hadn't intended to seal the floor since it has been left unsealed for 30 years already. However I could give the whole thing a polish. There are some fairly pitted areas. I'll be honest, my plan was to go with the Swisstrax so I could avoid dealing with the concrete all together.

As for your drainage system, I do recall your efforts there. I'd love to see a "retrospective" on your thread about it. We Canadians have unique challenges when it comes to drainage. I have yet to determine if my approach has worked. We haven't had any significant snowfall yet.

 

[Denwood]

Using an industrial grinder like we did, it's likely 10-15 minutes...I was amazed how quickly he finished an entire slab. It was new, but very poorly finished. Now it looks a bit like terrazzo. It was his first time using the gear...I just helped unload it from his truck. The grinder was likely 200lbs. Joe finished a 28x28 slab in 1-2 hours.

I have 4" diamond cup blades and an inline diamond wheel for my 4" grinder. They take concrete down like butter..but huge mess. Do it wet, or make sure a decent vacuum system is used. Using a dust deputy + shop vac with a filter bag works well if you're working dry. For a small area, 4" or 7" would be fine. If you want a nice transition over a meter or two, rent the big boy. Don't bother with an HD diamabrush. Ok for "sanding" a floor down, but useless for profiling. Been there, done that. I'll update the floor thread : http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309814&showall=1

If you're parking in there, salt will damage an unsealed floor very quickly. If not, no worries.

 

[trubuilt]

If you plan on doing a floor covering depending on the desired slope a topical patch could also be used pretty easy mix in a bucket and trowel out from about 1/16" up to a max of 1 1/2".

If you are parking in the garage with snow covered vehicles you should have about 3-4" of slope going back to the garage door.

 

[JohnnieMo]

Using an industrial grinder like we did, it's likely 10-15 minutes...I was amazed how quickly he finished an entire slab.

If you're parking in there, salt will damage an unsealed floor very quickly. If not, no worries.

I think the big boy is what I need. A couple hours and it can be done. I need to create a nice transition, so that won't be do-able with a 4" or even a 7".

I do park in there obviously, but my experience with any of these sealers (or anything you put on any ground ever) is destroyed within 5 years anyways. The concrete is 30 years old and although it has flaked in a few areas, should last another 100 years or so.

If you plan on doing a floor covering depending on the desired slope a topical patch could also be used pretty easy mix in a bucket and trowel out from about 1/16" up to a max of 1 1/2".

If you are parking in the garage with snow covered vehicles you should have about 3-4" of slope going back to the garage door.

Slope!! How magical that would be. My garage floor is more like a mattress. Humps and pits everywhere. I had to add that drainage channel at the middle because that is the low spot. I've been dealing with 1/2" of water there for 15 years.

 

[Denwood]

I need to build some sort of 20 ft "slope" jig that would guide the cutter and just cut in the channels.

 

[JohnnieMo]

I need to build some sort of 20 ft "slope" jig that would guide the cutter and just cut in the channels.

I'm sure you can actually build one. I can't even imagine what it would look like, but I'm sure you can



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Little update today. Through a series of events I ended up with a Best Buy gift card. Best Buy isn't a place I usually frequent, but I did find something there today on Black Friday that was on sale for $329....











I did a lot of research over the past year to find a good 2 channel amp. My plan was to drive my Axiom M80 towers, which are 4 ohm monsters that can handle 400 watts each. Finding a decent amplifier that can handle those, and not break the bank was my goal.



I fell into this Onkyo TX-8140 completely by accident. I was actually looking at a Yamaha RN301, but this one was newer and had wifi support. There were hardly any reviews on it, so I took a bit of a leap... but it was cheap, drove a 4 ohm load, and had plenty of wireless and internet source options which I liked. So I jumped on it.







Now getting those Axioms up top was another matter. I bet they weigh 100lbs each. I have a tear in my left rotator cuff, so this was a challenge.











But alas the deed is done. My son and I got to hang in the garage, play with tools, watch hockey and listen to the game nice and loud. Only drawback is the speakers aim towards the back of the garage, so walking underneath them can be a bit muffled.







As for the TX-8140, I'd say you need all of it for these speakers. I dialed it up to 100% for some time and although it was loud I know the speakers have a lot more to give. My Denon 3808 in the house has about twice as much power and can really make these puppies dance. However sound quality is good, bass response is excellent, and the connectivity is awesome. So far quite happy with the purchase.

 

[PhantomEB]

You ****, I been looking daily on Kijiji for a decent 2 channel Amp to run satellite radio off of! Buddy has my 2 channel A/B amp and trying to figure out why no sound being put out.

 

[JohnnieMo]

You ****, I been looking daily on Kijiji for a decent 2 channel Amp to run satellite radio off of! Buddy has my 2 channel A/B amp and trying to figure out why no sound being put out.

I was watching Kijiji as well. Good news though - I'm not watching Kijiji any more!

 

[JohnnieMo]

Using an industrial grinder like we did, it's likely 10-15 minutes...I was amazed how quickly he finished an entire slab. It was new, but very poorly finished. Now it looks a bit like terrazzo. It was his first time using the gear...I just helped unload it from his truck. The grinder was likely 200lbs. Joe finished a 28x28 slab in 1-2 hours.

Is the tool you used something like this?

In watching the videos, they say these will take 1/32" per pass. To me that looks like it should work. I just take 20 to 30 passes in the thickest spots. This one rents for about $60 but you need to get a diamond wheel for at least another $60. That is fine if it will do the job.

Home Depot didn't think it could grind down as much as 3/4". For that, you go to this planer:

This one will take 1/8" per pass but leaves a pretty scoured surface. They want $250 to rent this one and it is 200lbs.

I haven't found any 220v versions though.

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In related news, I think I have a Swisstrax Ribtrax floor design I like.



It is a total of 395 15.75" tiles. If their price hasn't changed drastically this will be in the range of $2500 CAD shipped to Calgary.

I expect this is a spring activity still since I need to finish drywall finishing and painting first (which are quickly climbing to the top of my priority list)

 

[TurboEuro88]

Turbo - are you using a computer to do most of your uploading/posting, or are you using a phone?

I find anything works okay on a computer. However I take my pictures on the phone, I resize on the phone, upload on the phone, and then post using my phone. So I am really looking for a solution optimized for a mobile user. In my attempt at using Imgur, it tries to create an online photo album. I don't need that. I just need an online directory.

I already have Imgur, Photobucket, GoogleDrive and Dropbox. I am familiar with each of them. But none do all of the things I want. (and Dropbox has this habit of deleting ALL of your content with no warning.... including the backups on your computer, so no thanks)

That is a downside of Imgur for sure. Another is that it uploads a full-res version of the photo which isn't necessarily ideal when posting to a forum such as GJ. Unless looking at high-res photos are your thing or you don't really care what resolution they're uploaded it, of course It works for me but looks like it may not for you purely for the album/image management at the mobile platform level. Normally when Im using Imgur, I'm going through after the fact to clean up the uploads and organize them into albums I already have, but that may be a level of use that's not ideal for you

Not too sure of a better alternative. There are other websites but I don't feel confident in their mobile capabilities (if they have any). For example, TinyPic.com has a nice selectable "Size" option but they have zero mobile support.

I did some further digging and another viable option may be a website www.imgsafe.org. It seems to do the basics of what you need in that it simply uploads the image and will provide you with a direct URL link to insert into posts here, or wherever you need them. Downsides: no mobile app but the website is mobile friendly. Also doesn't appear to have much in the way of account management so once you create an account, you cant change your password or even delete photos you've uploaded. I guess what it lacks in features it makes up for in simplicity.

 

[JohnnieMo]

Thanks Turbo,

I tried imgsafe and it is blocked from work too. No surprise.

I got to thinking - I just recently started using Google Drive for my photo backup anyways, so maybe I can delete a middle man and simply "publicly share" any of the forum photos without sharing my entire album. So I tried this.

This is being shared right from my Google Drive with a public link. These photos are already slightly resized. Google has free unlimited hosting if you are willing to accept a slight resolution decrease. As you can see it is still quite large.

Now if I could only figure out the forum code to resize the display of the image. I've tried to figure that out with no luck.

See if you can access the rest of my photos.... I don't think you can but I would like to know. At most you'll find my name

 

[SiGmA_X]

I don't think you can access the rest of your photos. I use to use PicasaWeb for all of my forum photo sharing. You use to be able to get a special URL to resize down, can you still? Lets see if this is 600w - looks like it is to me, but I'm mobile.

What type of data mining do you agree to for free image hosting these days? I've cut back on using Google services due to their love of our data... Ugh welcome to the 21st century!

 

[JohnnieMo]

Yes, that is sized down. How did you do it? (I usually use Tapatalk when mobile, and that solves this issue too)

I used to use Picasa many ages ago. I haven't touched it in years. Google obviously catalogues your photos, and you can search them (for instance, I can search for puppy and it finds everything from this guy). I like the feature. I'm not too paranoid about privacy.

I still feel Blackberry OS is the best on the market for pretty much everything - including data security, however the corporation forces me to use Apple. Kinda ironic.

 

[JohnnieMo]

Did some playing with Sketchup to try out the floor. While I was at it, I updated all the dimensions to 'as built'.

 

[monty007]

looks great!!

 

[KDXSR5]

Great build! I have been reading through it over the last few weeks in my free time. It is nice to see a well documented and thought out build on a smaller lot. I look forward to the finished product! Thank you for sharing!

 

[JohnnieMo]

Great build! I have been reading through it over the last few weeks in my free time. It is nice to see a well documented and thought out build on a smaller lot. I look forward to the finished product! Thank you for sharing!

Thanks KDX! It has been an adventure. Over 157,000 views now so it must be popular. My "How I lifted my garage for $400" Youtube video is also over 20,000 views now. I've noticed more activity there, so it must get promoted more once you get a certain number of views.

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Today was a hodgepodge... very cold out so I stayed in the garage and did some fun stuff.

With my bamboo counters finished, I had a plan on how to protect them. This is for when I am working with greasy car parts, or painting etc. This idea just came to me one day.













The paper is just building paper. 35" wide and 144' feet long. That should keep my clean for a while.

Next I got my vise mounted. Getting this done was the whole reason I wanted to get those counters done. Living without a vise is painful. It is surprising all the clever ways I've learned to work without one. Now I forget it is there and I'm still using clamps etc.





I also got a clever idea today on where to mount my screw drivers.



This reminds me - I need a nice set of screw drivers. These old Mastercrafts aren't very good and they are all dirty and missing.



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Last but not least, I couldn't put this off any longer:



And I'm off to the races!





I decided to start on the walls just because they are easier. Once I get my form good, I'll do the ceiling. I found some great videos on Youtube and that helped a great deal. (I just saw these images are sideways. When you click in photobucket they are properly oriented. I have no idea why this happens but I do apologize)

 

[Matias]

Looking nice, been some time since I managed to get some time to read!

Like the way the deck turned out. The camera installation also is very nice, need to put some in place as well.

There is nothing better than a long benchtop. However, I have found that it is difficult to keep the top from not getting piles of junk. The bigger the top, the more piles you can have without it affecting your ability to do work on the top

Good luck with the walls and roof, not a job I like either (still need to do half of the walls on mine).

 

[JohnnieMo]

Looking nice, been some time since I managed to get some time to read!

Like the way the deck turned out. The camera installation also is very nice, need to put some in place as well.

There is nothing better than a long benchtop. However, I have found that it is difficult to keep the top from not getting piles of junk. The bigger the top, the more piles you can have without it affecting your ability to do work on the top

Good luck with the walls and roof, not a job I like either (still need to do half of the walls on mine).

Thanks Matias! I have also found the bench top is a constant battle. The little shelves are helping, as are all the cabinets. However it takes vigilance.

In my first attack on taping and mudding I learned a major mistake I was making before. I never used to pre-mix the compound. I would just use it right from the container. That would make it "bubbly" for lack of a better term. This time I bought a mixing wand and spun it up with some extra water. Now it is very creamy. That seems to make a great deal of difference in getting a nice finish. Over Christmas I plan to get a lot of this done.

 

[polexican23]

the paper will also be a great place for the kiddos to color while dad works on the cars.

 

[Gentle_Ben]

It is a total of 395 15.75" tiles. If their price hasn't changed drastically this will be in the range of $2500 CAD shipped to Calgary.

$2500 is a lot of money for that amount of square feet, if it would have cost me that much per square foot I would never have put racedeck in my garages.

 

[JohnnieMo]

the paper will also be a great place for the kiddos to color while dad works on the cars.

Yes - great thought. This idea came to me from when I rolled out my wife/son's drawing paper roll on the lift a few weeks ago to make the counters.



I might also start wrapping Christmas presents with building paper.

$2500 is a lot of money for that amount of square feet, if it would have cost me that much per square foot I would never have put racedeck in my garages.

That surprises me. The quote I got from Swisstrax was $3.49 CAD per sqft. That was in January of this year. Most other prices I've seen floating around on GJ lately is more like $3.84 CAD. Costco is selling them now at that price also. Racedeck was quoted to me in USD, and it converted to a higher price than what I got from Swisstrax.

 

[JohnnieMo]

Good progress today but not much to see in the photos.

I got the first coat of mud done on all the walls plus about 1/3 of the ceiling. Exhausted and sore.

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I found that the easiest part was actually the corners. They just all went really well. I expected them to be the worst. The ceiling will be tough as several of the trusses are out of alignment. These trusses are the gifts that keep on giving.

As a side the lift is a great place to hide junk!





I also did some more playing around with Sketchup to try different floor combinations. I found this on the internet and it was almost exactly what I was planning:

It looks nice, but to be honest it is a touch plain for my liking. Then I came across this one. This photo looks so rad I kinda want to copy it.

So I tried this.







This style would hide a lot of dirt and grime just because it is mostly grey and is very abstract. However it may also make me dizzy.

I won't have the money for the flooring for quite a while however I do need to pick a paint colour quite soon.

 

[Matias]

I am also saving up for the floor. We now finally have Racedeck available here, the only thing is that it's $5,17 CAD / sq ft, so it'll have to wait.

For the design of the floor, I agree the blue white one you found might be a little plain. However, on the Porsche picture, I find it a little bit too wild. I'm thinking that for example when I drop a black clip which holds the inner wing, how easy will it be to find it

I'm sure you have checked these already, but I do like the installations in the project's such as dubber's double, Woody's Work Garage and Rick's Audi Double just to name a few. So the last picture you posted with the dark grey seems the best at the moment

For me it was Rick's Audi Double which got me into thinking about the RaceDeck freeflow, when I saw how easily you could just clean the dirt coming from the melting snow into and below the RD, and then just wash the floor once in a while.

 

[JohnnieMo]

I am also saving up for the floor. We now finally have Racedeck available here, the only thing is that it's $5,17 CAD / sq ft, so it'll have to wait.

For the design of the floor, I agree the blue white one you found might be a little plain. However, on the Porsche picture, I find it a little bit too wild. I'm thinking that for example when I drop a black clip which holds the inner wing, how easy will it be to find it

I'm sure you have checked these already, but I do like the installations in the project's such as dubber's double, Woody's Work Garage and Rick's Audi Double just to name a few. So the last picture you posted with the dark grey seems the best at the moment

For me it was Rick's Audi Double which got me into thinking about the RaceDeck freeflow, when I saw how easily you could just clean the dirt coming from the melting snow into and below the RD, and then just wash the floor once in a while.

OOOF!! That is some serious skidoodles for flooring. I think it is still worth it though. In my opinion if you compare the Ribtrax or FreeFlow flooring to any other option, this looks better and is the most functional (particularly in the snow regions of the planet).

I think the checkboard flooring looks really wild at an angle, but when you are standing directly above it, looking at your feet, it would not be un-nerving at all. Here is an example from Page 1 of my thread:



The rest of my garage is fairly vanilla, so making the floor more adventurous appeals to me. I have seen what both Rick and Woody did in their garages. Top notch. I've taken inspiration from both of them. However looking at either of their threads always makes me feel like an asymptote

I'm funny.

 

[Gentle_Ben]

That surprises me. The quote I got from Swisstrax was $3.49 CAD per sqft. That was in January of this year. Most other prices I've seen floating around on GJ lately is more like $3.84 CAD. Costco is selling them now at that price also. Racedeck was quoted to me in USD, and it converted to a higher price than what I got from Swisstrax.

When you've gotten your quotes from RaceDeck have you mentioned to the Garage Journal discount to them?

I ordered mine in two different batches and was given the GJ discount on both orders. It was far cheaper to have it shipped to a shipping depot at the border and then just drive across and pick it up vs. having it shipped into Canada directly. While I can't post the exact price I paid as part of my agreement with RaceDeck, I can say that I did both my garage's which totals about 1100sf of flooring plus door edging for 3 overhead doors for a fair amount less than what you have been quoted for swisstrax for your space.

Its awesome flooring for sure no matter which brand you go with, but I think what you have been quoted is beyond being worth it at that price point, and I think there may be cheaper options to getting the floor you want.

 

[@e91kiter]

Personally I think that the blue stripes should be a single color. Two different blues makes it look too busy and doesn't really flow for me but I like a simple designs. I ordered my from Swisstrax Canada which was cheaper then Racedeck.