The VISES of Garage Journal

[kwoswalt99]

The Parkwego looks like it's missing its collar.

 

[zoomieport]

Or is it more like the H.B. Smith vise (Dart patent...)?

http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=49094&id=17057&set=15

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Got it cleaned up needs new jaws that I just ordered up from Kevin For the color I am thinking hammered light blue.

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[drivesitfar]

Top: yes i agree the screw seems to be a bit longer than it should be so not sure the dust cover (cap) will fit over it. let us know if it does. also Bcom's friend makes some sweet caps that are a few bucks cause machined, but a lot nicer than a freeze plug.

also the original Babies had what looks like a piece of steel plate set on the ANVIL AREA you are talking about so not surprised that anvil area on yours isn't touched.

CA: nice find and a lot of members are wondering how you seem to do it almost daily, but you are in GOD'S WAITING ROOM or maybe some might call it HELL when it's over 120 degrees in the shade.

cheers and nice job spiffing it up and if i were you i'd work a bit more to improve your turnaround time.

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Thanks drives I will Work on that turnaround time. I guess being fourtunate comes from asking questions at sales and focusing on what I am after. You also have to look where every one has either already looked and missed it or look in different places.

 

[mcmlvif100]

SPEAKING OF RARE SPECIMENS>>> LOL!!!

This one has been on eBay for AGES, it was about 75 miles from me, and we finally agreed on a price that I would drive through a blizzard for...
Original paint, sharp edges, these ones don't fall out of trees...

Take care y'all!
Mike

My apologies if you have already seen them but thought that these patent drawings for the Dodge Slide Set vice might be of interest.

 

[zoomieport]

My apologies if you have already seen them but thought that these patent drawings for the Dodge Slide Set vice might be of interest.

Awesome, thanks!
VA, check this out!
THANKS MCMLVIF100!

Take Care!
Mike

 

[zoomieport]

Thanks drives I will Work on that turnaround time. I guess being fourtunate comes from asking questions at sales and focusing on what I am after. You also have to look where every one has either already looked and missed it or look in different places.

Strategy!

 

[mcmlvif100]

Awesome, thanks!
VA, check this out!
THANKS MCMLVIF100!

Take Care!
Mike

No problem. Have twice missed out on the non-swivel base version of the Dodge Slide Set -- once at an auction just up the street from our house and am still kicking myself for not bidding more, and once on local CL where I was the second caller. They are hard to find around here even though they were made within 10 miles of where I live. Someday, I hope to have one.

 

[va.grouseman]

Yep Zoom, that's pretty intricate machinery.---I've never looked into the guts of mine so that's real interesting.---THANKS MCMLVIF100!---That will be put in the archives.

 

[bagged89s10]

The Parkwego looks like it's missing its collar.

It is missing in that picture. The screw for the collar is bent and it's not a standard thread. I just haven't had time to make the new screw for it. The collar for it is smooth without any markings.

Bagged you need to put that side by side with the similar Parker. it certainly has the Parker style jaws...

It's pretty much a copy of a Parker. I have a Parker 88 parts vise I will snAp pictures next to.

 

[zoomieport]

No problem. Have twice missed out on the non-swivel base version of the Dodge Slide Set -- once at an auction just up the street from our house and am still kicking myself for not bidding more, and once on local CL where I was the second caller. They are hard to find around here even though they were made within 10 miles of where I live. Someday, I hope to have one.

I hear ya, there are a couple on ebay, but this was the only one I'd "pay up" on.
I bought this one in Niles, Mi., you probably saw it on eBay.
He wasn't about to "give it away"!
But, I wanted it for my collection, so we got to where I could "stomach it", and made a deal.
Good guy though!

Thanks Again!
Mike

 

[KMScott]

That is a very well designed Slide Set on the Dodge and much more robust then the one I posted a couple pages before. I like that vise and want one now.

 

[zoomieport]

I'll make you a heck of a deal Kevin, LOL!

 

[va.grouseman]

Previously posted by Topop101.

The most interesting point is the anvil pad was never ground. Any one have any insight as to why this is?
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I want to say it's because it was assembled on Friday at about 4:15 and a cold redeye was calling to the assembler, but it's most likely just as Drive said, they weren't going to install the little square so it didn't need to be machined.


72Highboy just posted one with the square anvil.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161217/191f8b0d6731455cac10bbdd180749e0.jpg

 

[zoomieport]

The "little anvil" attachment needs some research, I've got like 18 babies and I'm going to say half have it, half don't... I wonder why?

Merry Christmas Y'all!
Mike

 

[Whiskeymike]

Picked up this Columbian 203 1/2 today at a garage sale. I got it for $35. Is there any way to determine when it was made? It's missing the pipe jaws. Does anyone have drawings of the jaws for this so I could make a set? Or is there a source to get them?

P.s. Is there a way to flip photos in here?

 

[rusty65]

Not really to many ways to accurately date Columbian vises but I'd swag a guess of 40s to the late 70s. And great grab at 35 bucks.

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[zoomieport]

Picked up this Columbian 203 1/2 today at a garage sale. I got it for $35. Is there any way to determine when it was made? It's missing the pipe jaws. Does anyone have drawings of the jaws for this so I could make a set? Or is there a source to get them?

P.s. Is there a way to flip photos in here?

Try here, this guy makes the best jaws in the country, and we are the best country, so I think they are good, LOL!

http://www.benchvisejaws.com/

 

[zoomieport]

I believe that is an "older" Columbian.

 

[KMScott]

I'll make you a heck of a deal Kevin, LOL!

After Christmas, Maybe I'll trade ya a 109 for it. Just kidding.

 

[zoomieport]

Deal!!!

(Poor DEMOMAN...) LOL!

 

[rusty65]

Here is a catalog page from my 1943 catalog showing your vise model.


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[cajunfirehawk]

So wait, some come baby's with this raised square and some don't?

I never noticed it when it came in, huh Glad I snagged it...

 

[kwoswalt99]

I believe that is an "older" Columbian.

It could be as early as the mid twenties.

 

[PghJKB]

Previously posted by Topop101.

The most interesting point is the anvil pad was never ground. Any one have any insight as to why this is?
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I want to say it's because it was assembled on Friday at about 4:15 and a cold redeye was calling to the assembler, but it's most likely just as Drive said, they weren't going to install the little square so it didn't need to be machined.


72Highboy just posted one with the square anvil.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161217/191f8b0d6731455cac10bbdd180749e0.jpg

Those Baby Bullets fit into lunch boxes, don't they?

Maybe that one just never made it to the end of the assembly process.

JKB

 

[PghJKB]

Kevin
Check out Patent 1428996. It is by Laroy Starrett and assigned to Athol Machine. The chin on your vise screams Athol, but the patent here has some workings inside the chin.

There are definite similarities. Is this close, but no cigar?

USPTO Patent Link:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...1=1428996.PN.%26OS=pn/1428996%26RS=PN/1428996

Perhaps yours is a later version?

JKB

 

[KMScott]

No not close, the Dodge's design is very similar to this unknown vise I shown. The nut pivots up from the spring pressure when you back up and releases the finer teeth release instead of the heavy ratchet style used on the Dodge. Interested to see this ratcheting handle Athol also has the quick release. Have we seen one like this posted? The quick release on this Athol works from a cam action on the small turn handle under the meatball handle.

 

[zoomieport]

Good stuff Kevin!

 

[kwoswalt99]

Those Baby Bullets fit into lunch boxes, don't they?

Maybe that one just never made it to the end of the assembly process.

JKB

Zoomie has a bunch of them like that though.

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

As far as the block attached to the baby bullets I think that it was an option for jewelers who wanted an anvil. Just a guess on my part

 

[kwoswalt99]

No not close, the Dodge's design is very similar to this unknown vise I shown. The nut pivots up from the spring pressure when you back up and releases the finer teeth release instead of the heavy ratchet style used on the Dodge. Interested to see this ratcheting handle Athol also has the quick release. Have we seen one like this posted? The quick release on this Athol works from a cam action on the small turn handle under the meatball handle.

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-and-history/athol-vise-112406/

 

[Thrumcap]

Hey all,

Browsing thru some posts and saw the Parker 978 8" a few posts back.

Here's a couple pictures of a Parker 808 (8", 296lbs.) For posterity....
The wooden case it is propped on is 13" long I think, I have the same one.




I spotted it up in Ontario for $500 and the seller figured out what it was worth, then refinished it from rough in 24 hours and put it up double the price. Cannot entirely blame him It disappeared off kijiji in a couple days into the ether.

Thrumcap

 

[zoomieport]

As far as the block attached to the baby bullets I think that it was an option for jewelers who wanted an anvil. Just a guess on my part

Agreed.

 

[topop101]

Top: yes i agree the screw seems to be a bit longer than it should be so not sure the dust cover (cap) will fit over it. let us know if it does. also Bcom's friend makes some sweet caps that are a few bucks cause machined, but a lot nicer than a freeze plug.

also the original Babies had what looks like a piece of steel plate set on the ANVIL AREA you are talking about so not surprised that anvil area on yours isn't touched.

DrivesI have 4 babies now. Only one has ever had the added anvil pad. 2 have the machined pad 1 , the new one is not machined. 3 don't have dust caps and the screw sticks out far beyond the end of the vise. The newest one is painted inside like it never had one. It is date stamped so I wouldn't think it was carried out in a lunch box like someone mentioned. I have caps thanks to Kevin for them , all I'm missing is the time to restore them. Maybe the added anvil pad was an option for a period. The one I have is dated 1-51 with the pad. The ones without are 52, 63 and 73.

 

[KMScott]

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-and-history/athol-vise-112406/

Close but the Athol from the Machinist site only has the quick release. The Patent drawing did not show a cutaway view of the ratchet handle, the size of the meatball and the 1/2 handle tells me it is ratcheting, maybe I am wrong. Maybe there is none to be had and they used a drawing of the Ratcheting handle to show the quick release workings.

 

[topop101]

It could be as early as the mid twenties.

I can't tell from the picture but I think I see a tail piece allowing this vise to be bolted down either fixed or swivel. Makers started doing this post WWll or at the end of it nearest I've been able to figure out.

 

[KMScott]

Tops you might have to shorten the spindle threads on that baby or have a custom end cap made. Here is a few dimensions on the caps I make. Very nice baby with the casting parting line still showing and a great collection.

 

[kwoswalt99]

I can't tell from the picture but I think I see a tail piece allowing this vise to be bolted down either fixed or swivel. Makers started doing this post WWll or at the end of it nearest I've been able to figure out.

Yes, but even the pre WW2 Columbian vises have that.

 

[va.grouseman]

Yes, but even the pre WW2 Columbian vises have that.

Well whenever the practice started I personally have no idea but would like to know.---But I do know that Yost and Morgan still sell vises with the optional upgrade.