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ANDY, JB & ALL: I'm pretty sure you can go in your GJ profile and change a setting so you will never get logged off. i recall getting logged off when i first joined and i haven't had that issue in a few years now so i know there is an easier way than haven't to retrieve your posts after it logs off. it might be as simple as checking the box when you put in your password which i only have to do know if i've cleaned the cookies off my laptop.

I also set my GJ profile so i see the most recent posts on each thread and the most recent postings in each section. when i first joined i'd have to click on a thread and then click on the last post to see if there were any new posts.

i'm not HIGH TECH, but i'm trying to make other member's time on GJ as enjoyable as mine is. also if you are still having issues there is a section for questions or PM a MOD and get some help. or PM me and i'll take a look at my profile and see how i have it set up.

ANDY: BEE CAREFUL cause i think i see some empty floor space. nice looking set up with the KILNS and the compressor and of course the shiny copper pipes and your AMAZING WIRING JOB.

cheers
 

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(Quote from Andy) If you can get your stuff into your shop and still have room to work you are a disadvantaged have-not. I feel for you and am loading a couple of tons of really nice rusty stuff and will head your way at daylight. This is a mercy mission! (No thanks necessary, I'm just trying to clean up my shop.)

Thanks, but no thanks. I like to pick my own stuff.
I could make a trip up your way and pick out some stuff from your clean up pile if that would help you out.

I know you won't want to hear this but I've been hauling stuff to the recycle man to make room in the shop. No one wants what I have but if I were to try to buy the same stuff from someone else it would be like pure gold.

If I've not told you before great job on your shop and all things done the Andy way.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.
 
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OIF,

Just wanted to say thank you for sharing your projects and bovine friends with us.

To you and yours a merry Christmas and a happy 2017 filled with more old iron!

Niels


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Thanks for the visit and the kind comments. Merry Christmas!

I know exactly what you mean, some machines come in and can be used, but just aren't "right". I'll get around to fixing what isn't broken later, or go hog wild and do less than 1/2 of the work that you and others do. LOL



I've never been successful with the back button, for some reason I go back and the page typing window (pane or is it pain) is empty, which certainly does cause me pain. If I know it has been a while I'll highlight it and copy before I try to post. On the other hand there is a box next to the login that says something like keep me signed in, I leave that checked at all times. On the other hand is a real nice branded glove I can't even give away because it is a medium, that makes typing harder. (The glove is an inside joke with Andy, sorry everyone else if you don't get it.)

JB

Interesting, isn't it. The box next to my login says "remember me" but that does not affect being logged off for me. Thanks for the visit, and where's my gloves?:willy_nil

Andy, really enjoy your posts, just caught up this morning. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Thank you very much! Glad you stopped by, Merry Christmas!

ANDY, JB & ALL: I'm pretty sure you can go in your GJ profile and change a setting so you will never get logged off. i recall getting logged off when i first joined and i haven't had that issue in a few years now so i know there is an easier way than haven't to retrieve your posts after it logs off. it might be as simple as checking the box when you put in your password which i only have to do know if i've cleaned the cookies off my laptop.

I also set my GJ profile so i see the most recent posts on each thread and the most recent postings in each section. when i first joined i'd have to click on a thread and then click on the last post to see if there were any new posts.

i'm not HIGH TECH, but i'm trying to make other member's time on GJ as enjoyable as mine is. also if you are still having issues there is a section for questions or PM a MOD and get some help. or PM me and i'll take a look at my profile and see how i have it set up.

ANDY: BEE CAREFUL cause i think i see some empty floor space. nice looking set up with the KILNS and the compressor and of course the shiny copper pipes and your AMAZING WIRING JOB.

cheers

I just can't find anything in the profile section. But life is OK! I don't want to cause a moderator more effort. They make this site possible and have plenty to do. Like catching lyndon:lol_hitti

(Quote from Andy) If you can get your stuff into your shop and still have room to work you are a disadvantaged have-not. I feel for you and am loading a couple of tons of really nice rusty stuff and will head your way at daylight. This is a mercy mission! (No thanks necessary, I'm just trying to clean up my shop.)

Thanks, but no thanks. I like to pick my own stuff.
I could make a trip up your way and pick out some stuff from your clean up pile if that would help you out.

I know you won't want to hear this but I've been hauling stuff to the recycle man to make room in the shop. No one wants what I have but if I were to try to buy the same stuff from someone else it would be like pure gold.

If I've not told you before great job on your shop and all things done the Andy way.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Thanks for the visit, and Merry Christmas!
 
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After a trip to town to see my wife's doctor, QST!

Got the guy to make me some more wire clips

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Got the wire run in the paint booth (last room!) and started installing boxes

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And moved the desk into it's location. Boy it's heavy!

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And this guy is calling to me

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Thanks for stopping by!
 
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Andy, two Dewalt drills, whats going on here?...:willy_nil

BTW love the desk...:thumbup::thumbup:

Yeah, the third DeWalt is in the picture of the paint booth. I'm afraid I haven't opened the new ones I bought yet.

I have a catalog or manual holder I need to dig out and put on the desk to hold my owner's manuals.

I should be out of lights soon:willy_nil

Thanks for stopping in to visit!
 

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Hey Andy, I've been slowly catching up on your thread - I have it on a separate tab on my browser so that I don't forget where I'm up to (now that's not a sentence that you would have heard 30 years ago).

I just wanted to drop in and wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
 

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Now I'm getting worried. How long should it take one guy to set one up? Even better, what is the GJ average for setting up a lift (after starting)?

I never in my wildest dreams thought it would be 80 days to get started. Heck, isn't that enough time to go around the world?

I'm so lazy it just stinks. Maybe I can't get it set up and will have to call in experts. It says right on the box "some assembly required". What does that really mean? Do I have a screw loose?

Now confusion is setting in. Wasn't he a Chinese wise guy who once said "you can get rich making cheap tools for Americans"?

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I know exactly what you mean, some machines come in and can be used, but just aren't "right". I'll get around to fixing what isn't broken later, or go hog wild and do less than 1/2 of the work that you and others do. LOL



I've never been successful with the back button, for some reason I go back and the page typing window (pane or is it pain) is empty, which certainly does cause me pain. If I know it has been a while I'll highlight it and copy before I try to post. On the other hand there is a box next to the login that says something like keep me signed in, I leave that checked at all times. On the other hand is a real nice branded glove I can't even give away because it is a medium, that makes typing harder. (The glove is an inside joke with Andy, sorry everyone else if you don't get it.)

JB

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti Thanks you guys. You started my day off in the right way. With a big smile on my face.
 

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One trip to town just kills the day. However my wife has given up on me and I wear my work clothes to town (I put on clean clothes to go to doctor's offices, my mom would just die if I didn't. Ok she did, but you know what I mean). I've got to go cook now. My wife eats whatever I fix without complaining so that inspires me to fix something decent every now and again.
Andy, I also dress up when I leave the yard, with clean underwear (thanks Mom) for doctor visits. At home I wear my thrift store rejects, collectively known by their Italian Designer label, Garagios. I'm with you on the complaint-free cooking but I wouldn't call many of my meals "decent." My meals fall into the "grateful to survive" category. They are well balanced -- wide bowls reduce spillage.
 
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Hey Andy, I've been slowly catching up on your thread - I have it on a separate tab on my browser so that I don't forget where I'm up to (now that's not a sentence that you would have heard 30 years ago).

I just wanted to drop in and wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

I'm honored you are keeping this thread "live":bowdown:

Thirty years ago would have been 1986. I was still telling people I didn't want a home computer because I didn't want to be a keypunch operator. I changed...

Thanks for the visits! And Merry Christmas to you and your family! 2017 will be great!

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti


:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti Thanks you guys. You started my day off in the right way. With a big smile on my face.

I always say if you can't laugh with me at least laugh at me!:willy_nil

Andy, I also dress up when I leave the yard, with clean underwear (thanks Mom) for doctor visits. At home I wear my thrift store rejects, collectively known by their Italian Designer label, Garagios. I'm with you on the complaint-free cooking but I wouldn't call many of my meals "decent." My meals fall into the "grateful to survive" category. They are well balanced -- wide bowls reduce spillage.

Ditto on the clean underwear (what if you're in a wreck thing)! Are you sure we aren't brothers with the same mother? I just don't remember you when I was a kid. Did they make you live in the basement (oh, no, that's where I lived) and ride in the trunk?

Basement: We moved into a brand new three bedroom house about 1963. My brother and I always shared a bedroom, and he was older and always got his way. I convinced my dad to build a bedroom in the basement for me. One window up high, but I had an outside entrance which somehow they never thought I might go out in the middle of the night and roam the neighborhood. HA! I also rigged up my tape player to the TV right upstairs so I could listen to the TV clearly from my bedroom. Imagine my surprise when I found out the TV speaker would act as a microphone when the TV was off. I had the family room bugged!:rocker: Being the middle child I was continually oppressed and that gave me a edge. I never let on. "Mike, go get Andy for supper" I would hide. When he went back up and told them I wasn't there, I would casually walk up the stairs. "you didn't even go look, did you!"
 

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Ditto on the clean underwear (what if you're in a wreck thing)! Are you sure we aren't brothers with the same mother? I just don't remember you when I was a kid. Did they make you live in the basement (oh, no, that's where I lived) and ride in the trunk?

Basement: We moved into a brand new three bedroom house about 1963. My brother and I always shared a bedroom, and he was older and always got his way. I convinced my dad to build a bedroom in the basement for me. One window up high, but I had an outside entrance which somehow they never thought I might go out in the middle of the night and roam the neighborhood. HA! I also rigged up my tape player to the TV right upstairs so I could listen to the TV clearly from my bedroom. Imagine my surprise when I found out the TV speaker would act as a microphone when the TV was off. I had the family room bugged!:rocker: Being the middle child I was continually oppressed and that gave me a edge. I never let on. "Mike, go get Andy for supper" I would hide. When he went back up and told them I wasn't there, I would casually walk up the stairs. "you didn't even go look, did you!"
Andy, Mom never mentioned you and I thought my brother was an only child. I was allowed to sleep in his room in the attic in a separate bed.

I was told the TV was two floors down (in the basement) and I was not allowed to watch it during the school year. You being down there explains a lot. Summer vacations in Vermont were TV-free so I had no idea there were shows worth watching.

I never saw you at mealtime so you probably ate before me.
 

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Basement: We moved into a brand new three bedroom house about 1963. My brother and I always shared a bedroom, and he was older and always got his way. I convinced my dad to build a bedroom in the basement for me. One window up high, but I had an outside entrance which somehow they never thought I might go out in the middle of the night and roam the neighborhood. HA! I also rigged up my tape player to the TV right upstairs so I could listen to the TV clearly from my bedroom. Imagine my surprise when I found out the TV speaker would act as a microphone when the TV was off. I had the family room bugged!:rocker: Being the middle child I was continually oppressed and that gave me a edge. I never let on. "Mike, go get Andy for supper" I would hide. When he went back up and told them I wasn't there, I would casually walk up the stairs. "you didn't even go look, did you!"

Hi Andy,
I've really enjoyed this thread, your broom thread and especially your corny sense of humor.

The basement room thing really brought back memories for me. We moved into an OLD 2 bedroom house in 1968 and I had to share a room with my todler sister! Shortly thereafter my dad built me a room in the basement and life was much better. I didn't need a speaker because the floor was so thin I could hear EVERYTHING that was said upstairs. I had the family's old black and white TV down there and I built a redneck remote control for it with a light switch and some old extension cords. Of course I could only turn it on and off but I could do that when I heard my parents coming and we only got two stations anyway...

The separate outside entrance came in real handy when I was a teenager.

Happy holidays to all.

-Tyler
 

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Merry Christmas to all
Andy great work this past month
I'm late to the wind-chill debate
it may be perceived but as someone who has always worked part of the day outside, and lived in North Dakota -27 with a 50 mph wind is a heck of a lot colder than -27 and still.
Nothing better than a -20s day after a snow fall if there is no wind you can hear the frozen snow crunch satisfyingly at your footsteps.
Hoping Santa is nice to you


preparing for a Christmas Day Blizzard up here. Of course I get excited if it snows I get to work!
 
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Andy, Mom never mentioned you and I thought my brother was an only child. I was allowed to sleep in his room in the attic in a separate bed.

I was told the TV was two floors down (in the basement) and I was not allowed to watch it during the school year. You being down there explains a lot. Summer vacations in Vermont were TV-free so I had no idea there were shows worth watching.

I never saw you at mealtime so you probably ate before me.

AHA! It's all starting to come together now. WOW! This is amazing. Mom always said there were rats in the attic and it was you! I think I must have gotten leftovers, my food was always cold. And that trip to Mexico, they told me there wasn't room for me to go, but they wold bring me back souvenirs. HA. It was the original 'Home Alone" but things did not go well for me (no movie offers) and I got nothing but a cold tortilla.

Mom liked you best.
 
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Hi Andy,
I've really enjoyed this thread, your broom thread and especially your corny sense of humor.

The basement room thing really brought back memories for me. We moved into an OLD 2 bedroom house in 1968 and I had to share a room with my todler sister! Shortly thereafter my dad built me a room in the basement and life was much better. I didn't need a speaker because the floor was so thin I could hear EVERYTHING that was said upstairs. I had the family's old black and white TV down there and I built a redneck remote control for it with a light switch and some old extension cords. Of course I could only turn it on and off but I could do that when I heard my parents coming and we only got two stations anyway...

The separate outside entrance came in real handy when I was a teenager.

Happy holidays to all.

-Tyler

Corny sense of humor? Hmmm..... should I be offended or flattered?

Separate entrances are good!

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas to all
Andy great work this past month
I'm late to the wind-chill debate
it may be perceived but as someone who has always worked part of the day outside, and lived in North Dakota -27 with a 50 mph wind is a heck of a lot colder than -27 and still.
Nothing better than a -20s day after a snow fall if there is no wind you can hear the frozen snow crunch satisfyingly at your footsteps.
Hoping Santa is nice to you


preparing for a Christmas Day Blizzard up here. Of course I get excited if it snows I get to work!

Fortunately around here when it gets below ten degrees or so there is very little wind. I didn't mean to insinuate the wind does not affect your comfort. I agree it very much does, just not the temperature of the steel.

OIF, I can relate to the weight of your desk, I had one till about 2 years ago, it was complete with a leather desk top saver. Things were tight so it had to go.

This one was a cheapy, I paid ten dollars for it from an adjacent company having a downsizing sale. It works great.
 
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QST today! Concrete got poured and I made a little progress on the paint booth electrical. Got the rest of the breakers wired up

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And outlets mounted and wired.

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All wiring is now done!:rocker:

EXCEPT for hooking up the exhaust fan and the lift motor. That's pretty much done:thumbup:

Need lights but Christmas Eve is Open The Lift Day:rocker::rocker:

Wishing you a Merry Christmas safe and Happy Holidays!
 
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I just can't find anything in the profile section. But life is OK! I don't want to cause a moderator more effort. They make this site possible and have plenty to do. Like catching lyndon:lol_hitti

Andy

Thanks for pointing that out. . . . I break one little rule (that isn't a rule - it's a guideline, or something) . . .and everyone just keeps pointing it out.

:lol_hitti :lol_hitti :lol_hitti :lol_hitti :lol_hitti :willy_nil :rocker: ;)

Lyndon

I saw what you did there . . :hellobye: :hellobye:
 

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I'm glad you got the tire spreader Andy.
Couldn't think of a better place for it to go.

Merry Christmas

One Question!! I was taught that all electrical in a spray booth must be explosion proof

Just a thought

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I'm glad you got the tire spreader Andy.
Couldn't think of a better place for it to go.

Merry Christmas

One Question!! I was taught that all electrical in a spray booth must be explosion proof

Just a thought

Don

Thanks for the visit!

Glad you brought up explosion proof requirements. The code is written to promote safety and keep people from getting hurt.

Explosion proof - what an issue. As we all know many thousands of home hobbyists enthusiastically spray paint in their garages with little regard to vapor ignition safety. And occasionally you read of someone getting burned badly or killed because of that. I have always read those incidents with interest. The refining industry and pipeline industry, the two main areas I worked, are deep into explosion proof equipment and practices. When I fuel a gasoline car I always make it a practice to touch the metal part of the nozzle with my bare hand, then the metal on the car so I discharge any static prior to placing the nozzle into the filler neck. I'm scared of an electrical discharge when first fueling because there could be an explosive mixture in place at that point and a small spark could ignite the vapors.

1 With good exhaust fan operation, and inlet filters in place to steady the air flow through the booth (I know that is not their purpose, but it is of value) the flammable vapors should be swept from the inlet to the outlet and not congregate in the space. It is very important to me to have the paint booth under a small vacuum to insure no vapors exit through a wall where they may accumulate (that means inlet filters in place and fan operating). I want surface mounted lights for that reason, if I had flush lights and a cross wind was causing vapor to go through the cracks around the lights they can accumulate and cause an explosion even long after painting is done. With good steady air movement I do not expect the vapors to ever even reach the lower explosive limit (LEL). Below the LEL there can be no ignition. If the fan fails and I continue to spray paint I am taking the risk that vapor in the space will exceed the LEL and would cause a fire if there was a source of ignition.

2 Non-explosion proof electrical equipment does not in itself introduce a source of ignition. Operating a switch, or plugging in or unplugging something may cause a spark. In the case of a switch, the spark is deep inside the switch. However, when I used to paint in my shop with no exhaust fan, the lights would stay on until the vapors had dissipated. My switches are outside the paint booth (but not far enough to qualify for being safe per code requirements). I considered building an interior wall with windows for my lights, designed to draw fresh air across the lights to avoid vapor accumulation, and may yet do that. That would be safer but still not meet code requirements. In fact nothing I can do would meet code requirements short of buying explosion proof equipment and installing and using it per code because any equipment must be certified by an independent agency to meet code.

3 Failure of electrical equipment is an obvious opportunity for a spark. The worst scenario in my design is that should a ballast on a fluorescent lamp overheat and burn out there is an explosive vapor present within the fixture to initiate ignition of the balance of the vapor space. While I believe there will generally not be an explosive mixture present, my safeguards include not operating any lights in the paint booth which are not operating correctly: one bulb out, for instance, means there may be a bad connection and it may try to start and spark while on. In this case it is easy to unplug a light prior to spraying if I am paying attention. It's like driving without a seat belt or with bad brakes. We have all done both.

4 My fan is not explosion proof. However I plan to have the motor outside the vapor space (again, not as far as code requires) using the vacuum in the plenum to assure vapors do not approach the motor.

5 I do not have an LEL meter but plan to borrow one and do some tests initially. It is important to me to not cause a fire and damage antique equipment including me.

6 Code requirements have to make an operation safe for various skill levels of users. Introduction of flammable vapors into a closed space when there is no operator present is inherently hazardous - any equipment failure 24-7 can bring on disaster. Introduction of flammable vapors into a closed space with an operator present can be more hazardous because the operator can do something to create a spark. Code requirements for explosion proof equipment make a system which is "bullet proof" so long as the operator does not violate the protection, like wearing shoes of a type which will create a spark when he touches a grounded pipe, lighting a cigarette while painting, or continuing to work after an equipment failure, or even opening the explosion proof containment thereby violating it's containment (explosion proof equipment is not generally intrinsically safe, it is contained within a box which will not allow a flame to escape).

So, in summary, don't do as I do. Don't paint in your garage without code approved protection. Following code requirements will offer you protection. If you want to take a risk, make sure you understand and evaluate the risk carefully before proceeding. Most of the home painting fires I have read about include something really stupid like having a pilot light operating while painting (just forgot to turn it off). I have never had a wood stove in my shop for that reason: you can't easily put one out and the chimney will draw the vapors right in to where there may be a spark. Likewise do not exceed the recommended speed around curves and don't drive distracted. Very hazardous activities. People occasionally get burned and die in refineries, generally due to unsafe practices even though there are lots of systems in place to protect them.

Don't do as I do unless you understand and are willing to take the risks.

Merry Christmas Don (and the "don't do as I do" were not directed at you, but at the casual passerby who may see something in my thread and think "I might try that")

Merry Christmas to Andy and family as well as the others that participate on this sub section of the Garage Journal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you and Merry Christmas! And this is "start on the lift day":rocker::rocker:
 

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Andy: i actually don't understand all that you wrote about painting and explosions so i'll have to keep learning more about it, but i had no idea of any of this before Don mentioned it and you typed in your very long and detailed post about it. thanks for sharing and hoping you didn't get logged off in the middle of writing it. also would you mind if i cut and pasted this over to the Safety 101 thread i started a few months ago cause i'd really like to make other members aware and get their comments?

i checked out my GJ profile and couldn't find anything to change to keep from getting logged off so maybe it's as simple as checking the box next to where you sign in saying remember me? i'll keep trying to find the answer for you cause i vaguely remember having the same issue and it was a pain cause there were several times where i was getting logged off because i've been doing mulitiple posts addressing several members in my posts almost since i started thinking it would be easier to read than all the individual posts especially quoting ones with the huge pictures. i'll figure it out if the box checking doesn't solve it.

you've exhibited great patience not opening your lift prior to you finishing your area you are putting it in so i am hoping everything is there and you have fun just as you would have being a teenager getting something you waited months or all year for.

cheers and again MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and your family

Don: thanks for mentioning the EXPLOSION possibility!!

Lyndon: it's part of the thicker skin you need to develop to be here on GJ, but it's still the best forum on the internet. don't get the troops rallied up against the MODS cause they have a tough enough job as it is. they don't always get it right or have the best bedside manner, but i know i and probably you wouldn't want their job so hoping this didn't ruin your CHRISTMAS and your idea to spread some more cheer. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
 
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Andy: i actually don't understand all that you wrote about painting and explosions so i'll have to keep learning more about it, but i had no idea of any of this before Don mentioned it and you typed in your very long and detailed post about it. thanks for sharing and hoping you didn't get logged off in the middle of writing it. also would you mind if i cut and pasted this over to the Safety 101 thread i started a few months ago cause i'd really like to make other members aware and get their comments?

i checked out my GJ profile and couldn't find anything to change to keep from getting logged off so maybe it's as simple as checking the box next to where you sign in saying remember me? i'll keep trying to find the answer for you cause i vaguely remember having the same issue and it was a pain cause there were several times where i was getting logged off because i've been doing mulitiple posts addressing several members in my posts almost since i started thinking it would be easier to read than all the individual posts especially quoting ones with the huge pictures. i'll figure it out if the box checking doesn't solve it.

you've exhibited great patience not opening your lift prior to you finishing your area you are putting it in so i am hoping everything is there and you have fun just as you would have being a teenager getting something you waited months or all year for.

cheers and again MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and your family

Don: thanks for mentioning the EXPLOSION possibility!!

Lyndon: it's part of the thicker skin you need to develop to be here on GJ, but it's still the best forum on the internet. don't get the troops rallied up against the MODS cause they have a tough enough job as it is. they don't always get it right or have the best bedside manner, but i know i and probably you wouldn't want their job so hoping this didn't ruin your CHRISTMAS and your idea to spread some more cheer. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Thanks for dropping in. I had checked "remember me" early on and my login comes up automatically, but I tried checking it again and SUCCESS!! Thank you!!:bowdown: Merry Christmas!

Just dropping by to say Merry Christmas Drives!
And to all! Eh!

And Merry Christmas to you!
 
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After a nice breakfast with my wife I went out to open the lift.

First I had to clean a space!

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Took just about an hour to get it all cleared out and swept.

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A lot of cardboard for packaging, I got a pretty good fire going. I am driven to save cardboard for whatever reason, but this had to go

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Before I could unbolt the shipping frame, I had to straighten out some damage,

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So the first tool I needed was a sledge hammer. "What tools did you use to put your lift together?" "Well, I started with a sledge hammer":willy_nil

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Right tool for the job! The bolts still had to be driven out, so here are the tools used for unpacking. Nobody's surprised, I am a farmer.

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Instructions said to set up the legs, then lower the cross pieces in with a forklift. I didn't want to take Bob's steel overshoes off to bring him in the shop, and using forklift forks this would be a two man job and I'm working alone. So I assembled them on the ground. And had to use a clamp to squeeze the HDPE slides to get them into the uprights.

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Then tied the cross piece to the uprights just above the balance point and used the engine hoist to erect the assembly. Slowly and safely.

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Getting there!

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As luck would have it, we put the lift in the shop backwards, both ramps had to be turned and they are longer than the room is wide, so they had to be maneuvered past the post to turn. Quite a bit of effort to get them turned around.

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And the right hand lift had to be turned over. Since I was alone, and didn't want to get hurt or damage anything, I treated them as though they weighed 50 tons. That is, use hydraulics and rigging to accomplish moves instead of straining. The ramps were HEAVY. The cross pieces too. I had picked up one cross piece and started to strain my lower back. So none of that! Crosspieces may weigh 180 lbs, or I'm just a wimp.

So I rigged a sling under the ramp, you can see it tied to the left side. And hooked a chain loose so when the sling rolls it over it does not fall because of the chain.

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Almost over

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Over center and coming down right side up

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Because the cross pieces are in the way the ramp gets to ride on a furniture dolly into the lift area.

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Then to move the hoist into the lift area. It barely made it around the corner but it was time to disassemble the scaffold. The hoist could have gone through the paint booth.

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Enough room to lift the ramp then swing it into place.

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And then the other one

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After seven hours of working carefully the lift is bolted together and ready for cables and hydraulics.

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No speed record but three or four more hours it will be operational!

I'm very happy:beer:

No beers were harmed in the erection of this lift.

Merry Christmas all!
 
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Well done Andy looks great.

I'm assuming you need to move that cabinet at the front right post now so you get acces up that side of the lift?

Merry Christmas.

Cheers GB.
 
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Well done Andy looks great.

I'm assuming you need to move that cabinet at the front right post now so you get acces up that side of the lift?

Merry Christmas.

Cheers GB.

Oh yeah! Where the cabinet is now it cannot be opened. I struggled quite a while with where to place the lift. There was room to move it forward toward the Skelly sign as originally planned, but it was going to be a little crowded and walking through the door would be crowded, especially with long lumber or sheet goods. And that is the easy access to the wood shop. Ultimately I moved the lift to the right and rearward to provide maximum working space in front and to the left. The cabinet will find a new home in the foundry room or main shop room.

Thanks for stopping by.

I guess Christmas is about over for those who insist on being first for everything! Hope it was a great Christmas and I trust we are all looking forward to a better 2017! It will be what we make of it:rocker:
 
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Merry Christmas Andy. Great work on the lift. I too think you need to move the cabinet, to give you more room down the side. Stay warm.
Billy.

Nope, cabinet stays. To move it would be an admission I made a mistake, even if it can't be opened it just looks good:willy_nil

Thanks for stopping by, enjoy this Christmas and have a great 2017!
 

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Merry Christmas Andy. I subbed to your thread a long time ago, but I'm still on page thirty. Can you slow down so you don't make us younger guys look so feeble? ;)
 

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Andy, I'm impressed! Your real life lift erection was the same as my dream lift erection. Mine involved a floor jack and cribbing because I don't have an imaginary engine hoist.

I'd rather do these jobs alone because brute force and strained backs isn't always the best way and I feel like such a wimp when someone can lift their end while I struggle (show-off ten-year-old).
 
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Merry Christmas Andy. I subbed to your thread a long time ago, but I'm still on page thirty. Can you slow down so you don't make us younger guys look so feeble? ;)

Merry Christmas! Looking forward to a productive 2017!

Ummm.... I have slowed down. And the next month doesn't look good. I really don't do that much, I just post everything. Look! I picked up a screwdriver:rocker: I put it on the bench!:rocker::rocker: I picked it up again!!:rocker::rocker::rocker: Wow! look at me go:willy_nil:willy_nil

Andy, I'm impressed! Your real life lift erection was the same as my dream lift erection. Mine involved a floor jack and cribbing because I don't have an imaginary engine hoist.

I'd rather do these jobs alone because brute force and strained backs isn't always the best way and I feel like such a wimp when someone can lift their end while I struggle (show-off ten-year-old).

You need to get you an imaginary engine hoist! I imagine they can real handy.

My first job with the TVA (big dam utility for those down under) I worked for an erection engineer. Had a little trouble with the title.

Over the years I watched enough guys pick and set enough big stuff I think I can do it myself. It does take a little brain work to figure out how to do it safely and without effort but it is well worth the effort. And jacks and cribbing are key aspects. I even jacked around and cribbed up the ramps on the lift.

Thanks for stopping by guys!

2017 here we come:3gears::3gears::3gears:
 
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Top job on the lift Andy...:thumbup::thumbup:

Enjoy your Christmas day our is done and dusted..

Regards

Many thanks for stopping in. And for the kind comment!

After church and a nice lunch provided by my sister-in-law aka grandson's wife (I took pumpkin pie) I sneaked out to the shop for a few minutes, which turned into over an hour. Got the cables installed in the lift

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and managed to mount the power unit

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Maybe a couple of more hours and the lift will be in operation:rocker:

But I'm done for a few days, have to make a pecan pie tonight for my son's family, then we go there (110 miles) for lunch Monday. Going to mount a breaker box for the pole barn/house we're building, and I've got brooms to make, and a broom stitching needle and friends coming in Thursday for a holiday dinner so I don't know when I'll get back to the shed. But I'll not shed tears.

Thanks for stopping by my shop, I'm pleased with how it is coming together. Boy am I ready to start cleaning!!
 
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Lift looks good Andy

Great lift! :thumbup:

Thanks, guys! I am very blessed to have enough room for a lift like this. It seems to be heavy built, and the cables are bigger than I thought they would be. While I bought it for storage, sine I have my single post lift next door, I like this space too much and expect to do a fiar amount of work in here. But welding and grinding in the big shop.
 

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I'm impressed with your lift Andy. I'm more impressed how quickly you've put it together (now that you gotten to it). You've done a calking job.;)
 

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Are your indoor pictures taken with a flash or just the shop lighting? They are always so well lit. It might have something to do with the white walls and ceilings too.
I'm wanting to take more pictures to post on my truck build thread on another forum and maybe even start a shop thread here but I'm not liking the way my pictures come out.

Great work on the lift and all of your many efforts.
 
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