The VISES of Garage Journal

[SteveL]

Tried to pull the slide all the way out but ran in to major resistance once the lead screw finally ran out. Not wanting to mess something up, I stopped. Any suggestions to persuade it out? Is there a pin or something underneath that I need to access?

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Put the slide all the way back in and check for nicks on the top corners of the slide. Use a file to clean them up.

 

[454ragtop]

Tried to pull the slide all the way out but ran in to major resistance once the lead screw finally ran out. Not wanting to mess something up, I stopped. Any suggestions to persuade it out? Is there a pin or something underneath that I need to access?

Probably the slide has a burr or is distorted from using it as an anvil. Inspect closely, and carefully clean it up with a fine file as needed.

 

[mike_paxton]

Tried to pull the slide all the way out but ran in to major resistance once the lead screw finally ran out. Not wanting to mess something up, I stopped. Any suggestions to persuade it out? Is there a pin or something underneath that I need to access?

Steve:

I normally try cleaning the slides and then open up the lead screw until it is completely out of the main nut. Takes a little wiggle of slide once out, to get it to slide apart.

Once you have access to inside, you will see the pin hole inside above the main nut. It's always easier to take main nut out by extracting the pin that holds it in place. However, if the main nut won't easily come out, I leave it in place and work around it.

If I had the tools, I'd do it like Topop101 suggested in post #2914 at following link. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830&page=146

However, if I didn't have Topop101 tools, I'd do like CwazyWabbit suggested in post #2917 and use a bridge clamp, a large ratchet socket, a punch and a cheater bar on the bridge clamp handle to try and pop pin up from bottom.

Don't get frustrated, as it can take some time before it finally pops out.

Mike

 

[macgee]

Mac: take pictures even if you don't buy everything if you have time. good luck and thanks for the well wishes.

Well, it was an interesting pick. No one else was there so had a private pick, the gentleman was very nice but a wall in the garage caught fire and everything had black soot on it.
The vise I wanted he decided to keep as his bigger one walked away last week but I was able to get a Palmgren angle vise and a 6" Heinrich speed vise (have no need for them) along with a bunch of other stuff (30 new usa made end mills & slit slit cutters).

I'm wondering which model that Craftsman is? It looked like a 4" jaw, it was really the only thing I wanted other than the end mills, it was in really nice condition. $20 bucks for everything so I'm not complaining.

 

[tig]

I mounted my new Rigid to my just completed welding table...

 

[Outlawmws]

Mac, if it is the 4", it's a 5183 with the swivel base option. About 1960 through late 60's or so.

 

[macgee]

Mac, if it is the 4", it's a 5183 with the swivel base option. About 1960.

Thanks Outlaw,

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it maybe a #506 because the swivel base is round unlike the 5183's square shaped swivel base? These seem to fetch a lot less than the 5183. I still may have a chance to grab it if I trade him for another vise.

 

[Outlawmws]

Mac, I think you are confusing it with it's predecessor the 5197?

 

[bluebolt]

Steve, with the round ball main screw, that 404R should be pre 1936.

Outlaw, since that vise has the split collar and the patent 2127008 is cast in it which was granted on 16 August 1938 would that not be a 1938-1939 vise?

https://www.google.com/patents/US2127008

 

[Outlawmws]

I didn't notice those two items, but you are right, However the screw head is not correct; but there have been other instances where the flattened head was not in synch - From my notes:

the flat-nose style Reed with the adjustable front collar. - Patent applied for in Jan. 1936, granted in Aug. 1938. 2127008

 

[macgee]

Mac, I think you are confusing it with it's predecessor the 5197?

Yes, you are correct I was thinking of the 5197.

And again you are right, the one in the photo looks like a 506-5183. I wish it was a 5197.

 

[bluebolt]

That's why I think it is 1938-1939, the patent shows a round nose screw, not a flat nose. The Craftsman Reed's made around 1945 have a round nose. I have seen a few other "R" Reeds with the ball nose.

 

[SteveL]

Thanks guys, there were a couple of spots were someone had use it as an anvil and bulged the top edges a little. Small file cleaned them up nicely and the slide came right out. Will work on getting the pin out tomorrow.

Would be cool if t is around a '39 as that's the same as my Delta Unisaw and 6" jointer.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

Picked up another 6" today. In good shape as well.

Chas Parker 436. 187lbs.

My first Parker, and it's a Humpback!

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Picked up another 6" today. In good shape as well.

Chas Parker 436. 187lbs.

My first Parker, and it's a Humpback!

That's a dandy

 

[MissileBear]

Picked up another 6" today. In good shape as well.

Chas Parker 436. 187lbs.

My first Parker, and it's a Humpback!

I saw one of these in person a few months back. Owner wouldn't sell it ^_^

I really like the milled design on the back of the static jaw.

 

[Tomthumb717]

Mohawk - nice pick up looks to be in good shape too

 

[va.grouseman]

Mohawk, there was one on EBay a couple weeks ago that nice, they were asking $1200.00 for it.---There is another on there now, not quite as good for $599.00 but you have to pick it up.---They're not cheap and that one you got is a really nice one.---Most of the time they are pretty beat up.

 

[trijeff]

You guys are a bunch of ENABLERS!!

 

[jakemac]

You guys are a bunch of ENABLERS!!

Yeah ? So what's your point ?

 

[Shiftless]

macgee:
Still a great score!

Mohawk:
Might as well start at the top. That is a monster. My 6 inch Parker was way too big for my bench so I 3-way traded it for a baby bullet.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

macgee:
Still a great score!

Mohawk:
Might as well start at the top. That is a monster. My 6 inch Parker was way too big for my bench so I 3-way traded it for a baby bullet.

Thanks. Quite a bit smaller than my Athol 8", and I think smaller than my American Scale 6" Swivel Jaw....

But, dang, humpbacks are cool looking!

 

[Mohawk Dave]

You guys are a bunch of ENABLERS!!

Reed 107? 7", 175lb.....what's the story on that one?

 

[trijeff]

MD: re: the 107 ... love love love Reeds. Was hoping this was a 108 when I saw the ad, turned out to be the 107. Posted it here, Brad (demoman) is the one who probably convinced me most I should go get it. Wish it was four hole base and replaceable jaws, but apparently a pretty rare bird so you get what you get, right? Like you, also have bigger, but this is my first 7". Need to replace the handle (or at least a ball end) and static rear and slide were used for anviling a bit (lots of dings, but relatively light), still overall pretty good shape. Jaws are the factory flat type, still plenty of original hatching. In the process of moving, will be a bit before I post more pics and restore. Probably end up moving this one along, but that's what I think about all the Reeds I have picked up and I still have them allm

 

[4Nines]

You did good trijeff! I think the Reed 107s are more rare than the 108s. I need to get my 107 cleaned up and on a good stand soon.

 

[meatsis]

Thanks. Quite a bit smaller than my Athol 8", and I think smaller than my American Scale 6" Swivel Jaw....

But, dang, humpbacks are cool looking!

8" Athol? You don't see those too often. Ive only got 2 left, the 3rd one was stolen from me by Joe Striper . You got any pics?

 

[scooternut]

trijeff
Great score! Love the Reeds myself, I would have been all over that one.

 

[drivesitfar]

TJ: when you get some daylight and some time can you take some more pictures and post them up? you know that's why we wanted you buy it, but for the price you bought it for isn't it better than having some cash in your bank account? LIFT WITH YOUR LEGS!! and good luck with your move.

ALL: traffic and too much eating took away from my vise shopping stop so i'll just have to get organized and see if maybe i can find something i've already bought that i forgot about and make it my last find of 2016.

cheers

 

[bluebolt]

Thanks guys, there were a couple of spots were someone had use it as an anvil and bulged the top edges a little. Small file cleaned them up nicely and the slide came right out. Will work on getting the pin out tomorrow.

Would be cool if t is around a '39 as that's the same as my Delta Unisaw and 6" jointer.

It's definitely right there around 1939. It has to be at least August 1938 with the patent number on there. I looked at some other bulb nose "R" Reed's and they were all Patent Pending so far.

 

[rusty65]

Picked up the bigger brother to my little salesman sample it has 2 3/4in jaws and out of curiosity does anyone know of they made a smaller one then 2 3/4in jaw?

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[wrenchguy]

My Reed 207 2nd from left, between the 8" Morgan and 7" Yost far left. Its a heavy swiveler in real good shape. Its got 08, 12, 14 patent dates. What does the brochures say it weighs? thanks 4 any help.

 

[va.grouseman]

Wrench, how much does the Yost weigh?

 

[wrenchguy]

Wrench, how much does the Yost weigh?

i don't know, my scale broke some time back. i thought i had weighed 'em when i got 'em, but no soapstone numbers on 'em. yost looks bigger don't it?

 

[va.grouseman]

Were any of you fellows bidding on the little Stevens nickel ratchet vise?---Now that's what I meant about shooting the moon if it's something you don't think your going to be able to live without.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/232178013535?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[va.grouseman]

i don't know, my scale broke some time back. i thought i had weighed 'em when i got 'em, but no soapstone numbers on 'em. yost looks bigger don't it?

I gotsta know.---First 7'' Yost I've ever seen.

 

[cajunfirehawk]

Were any of you fellows bidding on the little Stevens nickel ratchet vise?---Now that's what I meant about shooting the moon if it's something you don't think your going to be able to live without.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/232178013535?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Wait there is another...http://www.ebay.com/itm/182399080535?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Bid away Gents

 

[meatsis]

I gotsta know.---First 7'' Yost I've ever seen.

Here's a 7 inch Yost Double swiveler I picked up a few years ago. It's BIG! I haven't actually weighed it but if I had to guess I'd say it's probably between 225-250 pounds.

 

[Brorex]

Hey guys just wondering if someone can tell me where to get jaw screws for a craftsman 5160. Pics of screw attached. Not sure if screws like this have a name or they're just made like that for this vise. I had to drill them out pulling the jaws and while they work the way they are I'd like to get new ones if at all possible. I'm contemplating trying to turn some down on the lathe but if I could purchase would probably be better quality. Thanks

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[scooternut]

I think the consensus has been that they are not available. I made my own easy enough on a belt grinder with some 1/4 20 screws. Didn't have a lathe then, but it was easy with the grinder.
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