The VISES of Garage Journal

[SkunkWerX]

Hello fellow GJ'ers. Im in talks with a lady about 1.5 hour drive from me. She has this Hollands vise , doesnt know a model and told me it has 4 inch jaws. I was wondering if anyone can pinpoint a model number for me. Here is the only picture I have. I think ill be driving on Sunday to check it out.

I'm looking at the height of the slide and it appears to be larger than the 4" standard Hollands. I have two Hollands, great vises. EDIT: I take that back. Just saw a pic of a Hollands 14 and it appears to be the same slide proportions as my 15.

That one looks like a good candidate for a refurb, the stand is a nice little bonus. Good luck.

 

[SteveL]

I've spent the last three days searching through this and the repair threads and still not sure how to find specific data or info so I apologize if this has been covered before. I have a little vise that belonged to my FIL that I can't figure out how to get the lead screw back in. Very basic design but it is marked "Made in the USA". The 2 3/4" jaws are about as flat as an asphalt road and the casting seam in the base sticks out so much that when mounted to a work surface, will make it lean to the side. I plan on milling the base and jaws flat with my Sherline mill and clean it up a little so I can use it for small jobs. I figure it's not really worth anything but it has sentimental attachment. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[454ragtop]

I've spent the last three days searching through this and the repair threads and still not sure how to find specific data or info so I apologize if this has been covered before. I have a little vise that belonged to my FIL that I can't figure out how to get the lead screw back in. Very basic design but it is marked "Made in the USA". The 2 3/4" jaws are about as flat as an asphalt road and the casting seam in the base sticks out so much that when mounted to a work surface, will make it lean to the side. I plan on milling the base and jaws flat with my Sherline mill and clean it up a little so I can use it for small jobs. I figure it's not really worth anything but it has sentimental attachment. Any help would be appreciated.

Can you take the moving jaw off, then insert the screw, and then thread the screw into the moving jaw as you reinstall it to the main body? My best guess from here.

 

[MissileBear]

I was wondering if anyone can pinpoint a model number for me. Here is the only picture I have. I think ill be driving on Sunday to check it out.

Z3K3Y - I have not seen that style with a non swivel base, so I cannot help you with the model number :/ That said, Hollands seemed to play around with their numbering scheme quite a bit through the years. Some numbering only applied to vises produced through certain years.

If you aren't sure what to do with it, I'm right across the pond so to speak and could take a drive up to you

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Found a Reed 32 this morning of course it's missing the base and pipe jaws. If anyone has theses laying next to their Bigfoot hide and jar of unicorn tears let me know.

Thanks

 

[Outlawmws]

Can you take the moving jaw off, then insert the screw, and then thread the screw into the moving jaw as you reinstall it to the main body? My best guess from here.

I think 454 is onto something here. slide the screw at an angle until (if) the shoulder clears he jaw "eyebrow" and then lower the far end level. hopefully the hole has clearance for this. then start working the dynamic onto the slide and screw.

If that doesn't do it, then how is the screw shank attached to the head? Or is it one piece?

 

[SteveL]

Quote: "Can you take the moving jaw off, then insert the screw, and then thread the screw into the moving jaw as you reinstall it to the main body? My best guess from here."

The front jaw is stationary and the screw has to go in from the front unless the knob and handle come off some how. The issue is getting the shoulder on the front knob engaged in the casting without breaking something off.

 

[454ragtop]

Quote: "Can you take the moving jaw off, then insert the screw, and then thread the screw into the moving jaw as you reinstall it to the main body? My best guess from here."

The front jaw is stationary and the screw has to go in from the front unless the knob and handle come off some how. The issue is getting the shoulder on the front knob engaged in the casting without breaking something off.

Make sure there's no dirt or rust in the hole in the front jaw. I still think you slide the screw in at an angle then wiggle it under the retainer, then screw it into the moving jaw as you install it. Once the thread is started it will hold the screw up so it can't slip down and come out from behind the retainer overhang.

 

[SteveL]

Never mind. Boy do I feel stupid. The front knob and handle simply thread on to the lead screw. On a whim, I put the lead screw in another vise just to check and yep, came right off. Sorry for the noobie interruption.

 

[Outlawmws]

Actually that's good. if you need it you can add a shim or washer to minimize backlash

Money pics?

 

[va.grouseman]

Steve, that's the first rounded-I-beam slide I've seen since this Wilton Scout I got 4 years ago.---By the way, was it apart when you got it or did you take it apart?

 

[SteveL]

It was apart when I got it years ago. It's been sitting on shelf being neglected since. Once I cleaned up the jaws and put it together, I realize that it is really a piece of junk. Lots of play on the beam and the jaws are no where close to squaring up when closed. Really not sure this is going to be worth the effort.

 

[drivesitfar]

Steve: i applaud you for taking the time to check out this huge vise thread and the vise repair 101 thread before asking your questions. even though that vise is a piece of junk as you call it save it for parts in case you find another that is in a little better shape like VA's is cause they don't make cool looking stuff like that anymore.

CA: IH Machinery has a Reed #32 in case you might need to make some parts. it's the PRE Reed 2c if i recall correctly.

VA: is there a vise you don't have one or two of ? even though it's not a stout vise like some of the others you own it is interesting.

Z3: depending on cost if it was less than a benjamin and no cracks, welds or other issues i'd take a drive for that one cause i really like those old COACHMAKER'S vises. good luck

 

[va.grouseman]

New Old Stock Wilton #800S, on EPray.---The old style.---Nice.---1/2 price.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-Swiv...372021?hash=item2cb7de7af5:g:piUAAOSw241YYsGv

 

[trijeff]

Happy NYE, viseheads!! Getting into the new place, here is a rough up of what the P98 will look like mounted. The stand looks small but I think just perspective of photo. Nonetheless, after refinished, the stand will be lag bolted to the floor.

 

[drivesitfar]

Dave: i'm still waiting to see a not welded or broken 8 incher. even a broken one has my tongue hanging out of my mouth.

TJ: congrats on the move and that looks like 600 pounds of LOVE to me.

cheers

 

[bluebolt]

Sometimes you get a good deal and sometimes you screw up. I stopped by a place selling antiques and stuff. I spied this Reed 203 1/2R and the Wilton 9350. The Reed is stuck closed and will be a project. The Wilton looked OK, I unscrewed it about an inch and the teeth on the jaws looked good and no obvious damage. I was in a hurry to make it to a hospital appointment so I made what I thought was a decent deal.

Then I got home and unscrewed the Wilton the rest of the way

Plus the rest of the slide is stuck inside the main body.

Now I need some beer, or two or three...

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Some JB weld & duct tape should take care of that.

I bought a 5" Reed I discovered later had been snapped off and welded back on. The good thing was it is a very nice job on the repair.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE !!!!!!!

 

[Outlawmws]

BB, it will buff out!

What get said! HNY all!

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Sometimes you get a good deal and sometimes you screw up. I stopped by a place selling antiques and stuff. I spied this Reed 203 1/2R and the Wilton 9350. The Reed is stuck closed and will be a project. The Wilton looked OK, I unscrewed it about an inch and the teeth on the jaws looked good and no obvious damage. I was in a hurry to make it to a hospital appointment so I made what I thought was a decent deal.

Then I got home and unscrewed the Wilton the rest of the way

Plus the rest of the slide is stuck inside the main body.

Now I need some beer, or two or three...

Dam the jaws on that Wilton look barely used they must of smashed what ever it was holding with a BFH to snap it. The plus side is you got a Reed that should be fixable.

 

[bluebolt]

Considering the Wilton is broken I overpaid by a lot, $100 for both vises.

I balance that out by the vise scores I got this year.

Wilton 350SJ swivel jaw for $105
Simplex Rigid 51 fixed base 5 1/4" wide jaws $75, sold for $250 5 days later
NOS Wilton Flip Grip Vise for $20
Columbian 203 1/2 combo vise for $35
Wilton 744 mechanics vise for $30
7 vises for $300, early Wilton C1, later C1 with copper jaw covers, two Wilton Universal Turret rotating wood / metal vises, NOS Starrett 623 1/2, Erie Tool Works oval slide combo 00C, Columbian Gyro Vise. Sold one turret vise and the Starrett and covered my expenses.
$25 Wilton 2" baby bullet
Another Versa Vise for $20 plus $10 for a box of stuff that had the pipe jaws in it too,
$125 for a nice Wilton 9350 with copper jaws

I may not have minions like Joe Striper but I do OK!

 

[bluebolt]

Dam the jaws on that Wilton look barely used they must of smashed what ever it was holding with a BFH to snap it. The plus side is you got a Reed that should be fixable.

The jaws are pretty good. I should at least get the jaws, main screw, horseshoe collar and rear cap out of this vise. If I can get the broken piece of slide out the I will have a good main body for someone with a broken one.

 

[zoomieport]

New Old Stock Wilton #800S, on EPray.---The old style.---Nice.---1/2 price.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-Swiv...372021?hash=item2cb7de7af5:g:piUAAOSw241YYsGv

Stir the pot, VA!
Antagonist, lol!

Happy New Year, my Friend!
Mike

 

[zoomieport]

Considering the Wilton is broken I overpaid by a lot, $100 for both vises.

I balance that out by the vise scores I got this year.

Wilton 350SJ swivel jaw for $105
Simplex Rigid 51 fixed base 5 1/4" wide jaws $75, sold for $250 5 days later
NOS Wilton Flip Grip Vise for $20
Columbian 203 1/2 combo vise for $35
Wilton 744 mechanics vise for $30
7 vises for $300, early Wilton C1, later C1 with copper jaw covers, two Wilton Universal Turret rotating wood / metal vises, NOS Starrett 623 1/2, Erie Tool Works oval slide combo 00C, Columbian Gyro Vise. Sold one turret vise and the Starrett and covered my expenses.
$25 Wilton 2" baby bullet
Another Versa Vise for $20 plus $10 for a box of stuff that had the pipe jaws in it too,
$125 for a nice Wilton 9350 with copper jaws

I may not have minions like Joe Striper but I do OK!

27 Baby Bullets for $787.50.
Your serve...

Take care!
ZOOM

Edit: most with swivel bases or power arms.

 

[Bcom]

27 Baby Bullets for $787.50.
Your serve...

Take care!
ZOOM

Edit: most with swivel bases or power arms.

what what what?!?! this makes me want to come and pick them up!! stop it stop it!! why do the voices come to me to die!!!

 

[SteveL]

Here she is sitting relatively flat now after a quick clean up on the mill and with a wire wheel and some WD40. And just to show that it will actually hold something, kind of, that's a nickel in the jaws for size reference. I believe that I've spent about as much time as this little guy is worth and it will likely sit on the shop window sill as a reminder of how cool my FIL was.

Happy New Year!

 

[zoomieport]

what what what?!?! this makes me want to come and pick them up!! stop it stop it!! why do the voices come to me to die!!!

It was before "the stalkers", LOL!

 

[Bcom]

It was before "the stalkers", LOL!

Now i feel dumb. I cant tell if the price you put is a joke or not

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

No where near 27 baby bullets for an average of $29.17 a piece but I did find two this year , first one was $2.00 second one was $30.00 very happy with both these scores. I bought a **** ton of other vise's that made me a tidy little profit that's of course if I paid myself .05 cents and hour

 

[Bcom]

Here she is sitting relatively flat now after a quick clean up on the mill and with a wire wheel and some WD40. And just to show that it will actually hold something, kind of, that's a nickel in the jaws for size reference. I believe that I've spent about as much time as this little guy is worth and it will likely sit on the shop window sill as a reminder of how cool my FIL was.

Happy New Year!

Why do you bolt your vises to the ceiling? Thats strange

 

[SteveL]

Photos are showing right side up for me. It is actually sitting on my table saw sled. Only clean area in the shop at the moment.

 

[Bcom]

Why do you bolt your vises to the ceiling? Thats strange

Photos are showing right side up for me. It is actually sitting on my table saw sled. Only clean area in the shop at the moment.

Well youve got your monitor or your phone/tablet upside down then

 

[Outlawmws]

Bcom, Turn YOUR phone over...

Or are the hats too tight?

 

[Bcom]

Bcom, Turn YOUR phone over...

Or are the hats too tight?

stop making fun of me!!!!

 

[drivesitfar]

Zoomie: i don't think you've posted any pictures of all your baby bullets and power arms so if you have time and would like to i'm sure we'd all love it.

Steve: looks a lot better now and nice to know it will keep a memory in your eyesight for you every time you look at it. sounds like FIL was a great guy and sorry to hear he's gone now.

ALL: can you say happy new years too much? it's not quite here yet on the West Coast, but i'm still awake which is not the norm. i usually watch the highlights in the morning.

cheers

 

[va.grouseman]

Happy 2017 to all you fellows, and some excellent hunting to all this year.

 

[PghJKB]

New Old Stock Wilton #800S, on EPray.---The old style.---Nice.---1/2 price.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-Swiv...372021?hash=item2cb7de7af5:g:piUAAOSw241YYsGv

And one of the swivel locks just sorta broke off while in storage on the shelf.
Huh?!?!

Happy New Year Yinz guys.

JKB

 

[GETRIDAONE]

I thought I would finish this little Reed 203R yesterday but the paint wasn't quite dry. This will be the first restoration of the new year instead of the last. I'm not crazy about the color but I had a can of paint that needed using.

 

[MissileBear]

I see mention of baby bullet and I said out loud "I want a baby bullet!

Then I saw that Prentiss 98 and I said out loud "holy @&$* I want a P98!

One end of the spectrum to another....

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Happy New year everyone! I hope All of you have successful vise hunting in 2017.

There were few entries in the 2016 Visees Awards. Beautiful and interesting vises!
Feel free to vote for your favorite vise.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344112