Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[Farmall450]

10 cent Cokes, I can swing that!

 

[Jeff Ivers]

ANDY: i posted up a few pictures on my thread and thought you might like one or a few for your thread too since i love your SIG LINE the past couple weeks a lot. i know you will change it some day, but it surely makes me smile every time i see that line.

cheers

Looks like a princess throne to me!

 

[oldironfarmer]

How do I pm you with a request for a broom? Some day my 50x80 will get built and a new broom sweeps clean.
walt

Just put Broom in the title and let me know what you want. I'll send you my address so you can mail a check. Then you have to wait because I'm slow and lazy.

Andy, you speak of Jules Verne as if his ideas were less than grand. Nemo had faith.

I hope you didn't get all that nasty ice that we're seeing on the news. It looks pretty bad for a lot of folks around your area.

No, no. My opinion of Jules Verne could not be higher, but Von Braun was much more pragmatic (and successful).

We had a little ice then lots of rain, no damage herre, we insulated the new house in teh middle of it.

Awesome vacation photo's

Thanks!

10 cent Cokes, I can swing that!

Drop on in but bring your own change

Looks like a princess throne to me!

So, I guess Drives is a King, since he has a Princess for a daughter. And his daughter is a princess. That's non-negotiable. And I failed to comment on the chair. It looked like it came together just right.

 

[oldironfarmer]

My son's 05 Ford truck came without the key to lower the spare tire. So he had a dealer lower it with a master key and has been carrying it in the back of the pickup. He asked me to fix something for him to be able to store the spare so I welded a socket on the end of the shaft and a bolt on the crank mechanism.

Not very elegant but it gets the job done.

Then I pulled a stupid stunt. I went to change the oil in his truck, 6.0 L Powerstroke. Just did not think about how much oil it held. At least six quarts of the fifteen wound up on my floor.

I've got lots of sawdust

So this is what I like about Garage Journal.

As Mr. 1/2 Cup has alliterated, GJ is a great place where people of all varieties can find acceptance and support while accepting and supporting others. While GJ has inspired me to clean up and organize my shop, my shop will never be a show place. It is my place to work. I respect those who desire a show place, and find respect from those for my working shop. Someone asked whether I planned to restore an old drill press. My response "not as long as it works". And that's OK. So my floor is a mess, but it will clean up enough.

Sawdust will **** the oil right out in a few days. And the shop is officially in service.

 

[bdbecker]

Finally baptised your new shop!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Ain't it the truth.

But I had a thought today. Thinking about working for Sun Oil (Parent of Sunoco) and where the name came from. Sinclair used dinosaurs for their logo, since there is a theory that oil came from dinosaurs. The sun originally provided the energy for the plants the dinosaurs ate, and for the plant matter which created coal. So really when you drive a gasoline powered hot rod or you're rolling coal in a diesel you are "green", it's all solar energy (and it's recycled to boot).

 

[drivesitfar]

ANDY: thanks for the KUDOS about my little girl. not sure i'll ever even be KING of my household much less anybody, but i just keep trying to improve daily as much as i can. i have a few garbage cans full of sawdust i'll have to try the next time i have a spill.

for us city folks we use KITTY LITTER to clean up our oil spills. WOW 15 quarts of oil in a truck's engine. i never knew they held that much.

Glad to have you back in your shop doing what you do and best of luck finishing up your TAXES so you can get back to having fun and feeding the cows.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

Drives: I didn't say you were a good King. But every Princess has to have a King.

Kitty litter does not work as well for me as sawdust. Neither does commercial oil dry products. And then oil soaked sawdust makes a great fire starter. Got in trouble over kitty litter one time. Company management meeting, HR lady had the safety topic. She made the point if you carry kitty litter for anti-slip (works good) in icy conditions keep it in the back seat as she almost took a tumble getting to the trunk to get her kitty litter. I commented that's a great idea unless you're frugal and utilize recycled kitty litter. Brought the house down except for a few stuffed shirts like the HR lady (wow, did I say "like the HR lady"?) who thought I somehow lacked decorum. What does that mean anyway?

But make no mistake, feeding cows takes precedent over everything else except maybe a house fire. Taxes can wait. Had a new calf today. New babies on chilly mornings are a sight to behold, you never get tired of seeing the new baby. And the protective momma.

But if you keep animals locked up (even in a 160 acre pasture) you owe it to them to keep them fed and watered.

 

[Vieux]

The garage where work is always not the best view. My garage is proof of this, the snow machine for the night is melting and all the dirt flows down to the floor. Dirty floors will be provided for me until spring :-(



Spilled oil on the floor I covered with sand. Hardwood sawdust I no have.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, you are not on you own there let me tell you.

Mine is small and will never be a show piece.

More importantly it has to be functional, fit for purpose and have that touch of your personality in it.

You tick all the boxes IMHO..

Regards

PS you should see my floor..

Thanks to the broom it IS clean at the very least..

 

[NedNorton]

Andy,
Great to see the shop get it's first beauty mark. Those diesels sure hold a bunch. The Dodges I had for my construction firm held around 12qt each, I think, so 15 for the Ford doesn't surprise. The diesel maintenance always cost more than the gassers but when your were pulling the trailer with the skid-steer up the canyon, there was nothing better.

Congratulations on the new calf and thanks for taking us along.

Cheers,
Chris

 

[dlcwent]

Well that was a rookie move if I ever heard one. I can't believe you did that. I would never make a mistake like that. Okay, I'll man up. I changed the oil in a customers car one day while he was sitting waiting and watching me. It all went according to plan until I started the engine and was watching the oil pressure gauge and it was not coming up. Switching off the ignition and stepping out of the car it became quickly obvious that I had forgotten to put a new filter on it. It's amazing how much oil comes out that quickly.

Are we back on the untrusting cow conversation?

 

[walt111]

Andy I do not know how to send you a pm. I do not want to plaster my email address for the world to see. My desires in a broom first is a handle long enough so I can sweep standing up.
walt

 

[Farmall450]

Andy I do not know how to send you a pm. I do not want to plaster my email address for the world to see. My desires in a broom first is a handle long enough so I can sweep standing up.
walt

On any of his posts, click on his name. Several boxes will drop down, select "send a private message to ..."

Fill in and click send.

 

[jbmatth]

Andy,
I'm surprised at you, I've never done anything even close to that, when I underestimate the oil pan capacity I wouldn't just let it blow up in my face and not get on my pretty new concrete floor.

Oh wait yes I would oops.
JB

 

[oldironfarmer]

On any of his posts, click on his name. Several boxes will drop down, select "send a private message to ..."

Fill in and click send.

What he said. I sent you a PM so look at the top right of your screen and you should see a flashing message indicator.

It falls in the category of "you can't learn any younger" but until you know how to do something, you don't know how to do it. No shame in that. Like I'm trying to learn how to keep my mouth shut. Harder than it appears.

 

[Grumblebum]

You'd think an almost 12 year old would be toilet trained by now.

Couldn't hold it for a fence post (or 530).

Maybe it was nervous about going up on the lift ?

 

[chrisBTSC]

I try and not worry about stuff that can be cleaned up. I was teaching my son to change the oil in his car. He got it all drained and I knew he hadn't put the plug back in when he started filling the engine. I let that be a learning experience for him. He learned to always double check and make sure the plug was in the oilpan and he learned how to clean a garage floor.

 

[realvc]

I use oil dry and lots of it because no matter how careful I try to be there is still oil, trans. fluid or coolant on the floor. As much time is spent cleaning up as working it seems.

Thanks for sharing your oil spill story for some reason I feel better after reading about it.

 

[bluestripe67]

Ain't it the truth.

But I had a thought today. Thinking about working for Sun Oil (Parent of Sunoco) and where the name came from. Sinclair used dinosaurs for their logo, since there is a theory that oil came from dinosaurs. The sun originally provided the energy for the plants the dinosaurs ate, and for the plant matter which created coal. So really when you drive a gasoline powered hot rod or you're rolling coal in a diesel you are "green", it's all solar energy (and it's recycled to boot).

Yes, it is the truth, and it made me laugh.
I'll match your oil spill. I have my own, but it's called an "oil spray". Changed oil in my 18 yr old Mercedes. Filter/housing is on the forward dr side of the engine and is mounted upside down. Put filter/housing on, turned key...it looked like a guiser. I had overtightened the filter housing creating a hair line crack. I killed the engine in a mila second, but I know a quart was fine sprayed over, on, into, under any and everything. I never read the torque spec right on the top of the housing. Dennis

 

[xtremek]

My turn. Changed the oil and didn't look at the face where the filter sits. The old gasket stayed stuck on that face. Started the engine with good pressure and no leaks,..... The customer takes off from the first light and steps into the pedal decently and ALLthe oil squirts out between the two gaskets. The customer noticed quickly enough that no real damage was done. Boss put the gasket on the string and made me wear the necklace for a week.

 

[Geezershop]

I worked in a Conoco station when I was 19 and learned to do oil changes, flat repairs, and coolant flush and change. They had gallon cans with oil and gallon cans with antifreeze. The labels were the same color. Yes, I put 2 gallons of oil in a lady's radiator. The oil didn't cool very well and ruined her engine. Shop had to replace the engine and believe it or not I didn't get fired.

 

[oldironfarmer]

The garage where work is always not the best view. My garage is proof of this, the snow machine for the night is melting and all the dirt flows down to the floor. Dirty floors will be provided for me until spring :-(



Spilled oil on the floor I covered with sand. Hardwood sawdust I no have.

Nice picture of your shop. You really do have a challenge with managing your snow/mud/oil.

Andy, you are not on you own there let me tell you.

Mine is small and will never be a show piece.

More importantly it has to be functional, fit for purpose and have that touch of your personality in it.

You tick all the boxes IMHO..

Regards

PS you should see my floor..

Thanks to the broom it IS clean at the very least..

IMHO your shop is 1/2 nice, and that means very nice.

Andy,
Great to see the shop get it's first beauty mark. Those diesels sure hold a bunch. The Dodges I had for my construction firm held around 12qt each, I think, so 15 for the Ford doesn't surprise. The diesel maintenance always cost more than the gassers but when your were pulling the trailer with the skid-steer up the canyon, there was nothing better.

Congratulations on the new calf and thanks for taking us along.

Cheers,
Chris

My 12 valve Dodge holds only 10 qt. I can remember that because a 2-1/2 gallon container of Rotella T is good for an oil change. And that 10 qt will barely fit in the old pan I used

Well that was a rookie move if I ever heard one. I can't believe you did that. I would never make a mistake like that. Okay, I'll man up. I changed the oil in a customers car one day while he was sitting waiting and watching me. It all went according to plan until I started the engine and was watching the oil pressure gauge and it was not coming up. Switching off the ignition and stepping out of the car it became quickly obvious that I had forgotten to put a new filter on it. It's amazing how much oil comes out that quickly.

Are we back on the untrusting cow conversation?

Make it hurt good. I'll do better on my second oil change, I promise.

I did get a laugh out of no oil filter. That's one I've never done but it's even better with an audience.

My bull was staring me down through the walk through gate as I approached it. So I stepped it up and put on my game face, he saw fire in my eyes and backed up before I got to the gate. If I get the chance I'll kick him on the nose. That really hurts them and helps remind him I am the top cow.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy,
I'm surprised at you, I've never done anything even close to that, when I underestimate the oil pan capacity I wouldn't just let it blow up in my face and not get on my pretty new concrete floor.

Oh wait yes I would oops.
JB

That picture is priceless. I'm thinking you might be a greaser.

You'd think an almost 12 year old would be toilet trained by now.

Couldn't hold it for a fence post (or 530).

Maybe it was nervous about going up on the lift ?

It wasn't going to get on the lift, so that can't be it. I'm thinking it didn't like being under a 12 valve Cummins. Or maybe it was just bad judgement on the part of management.

I try and not worry about stuff that can be cleaned up. I was teaching my son to change the oil in his car. He got it all drained and I knew he hadn't put the plug back in when he started filling the engine. I let that be a learning experience for him. He learned to always double check and make sure the plug was in the oilpan and he learned how to clean a garage floor.

When I was commuting 120 miles per day and changing oil in the gravel driveway I forgot to put the plug in my 75 Honda Civic. I could change the oil without lifting the car. My wife walked out just as I was putting in the oil and asked about the tinkling into the drain pan. I told her it was worth half a quart to flush out all the old oil. We divorced later because she thought I was an idiot. I always tried to support her views and opinions.

I use oil dry and lots of it because no matter how careful I try to be there is still oil, trans. fluid or coolant on the floor. As much time is spent cleaning up as working it seems.

Thanks for sharing your oil spill story for some reason I feel better after reading about it.

I don't mind little drips but really don't like floods.

I'm glad it made you feel better, apparently I can be useful as a bad example. And it gave Dan ammunition.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Yes, it is the truth, and it made me laugh.
I'll match your oil spill. I have my own, but it's called an "oil spray". Changed oil in my 18 yr old Mercedes. Filter/housing is on the forward dr side of the engine and is mounted upside down. Put filter/housing on, turned key...it looked like a guiser. I had overtightened the filter housing creating a hair line crack. I killed the engine in a mila second, but I know a quart was fine sprayed over, on, into, under any and everything. I never read the torque spec right on the top of the housing. Dennis

Dang! I hate it when that happens. That hurts.

My turn. Changed the oil and didn't look at the face where the filter sits. The old gasket stayed stuck on that face. Started the engine with good pressure and no leaks,..... The customer takes off from the first light and steps into the pedal decently and ALLthe oil squirts out between the two gaskets. The customer noticed quickly enough that no real damage was done. Boss put the gasket on the string and made me wear the necklace for a week.

I couldn't get the gasket out of an M Farmall oil filter seat (in a groove). So I figured a second gasket would hold because the first one was hard and leaking.

Nope.

I worked in a Conoco station when I was 19 and learned to do oil changes, flat repairs, and coolant flush and change. They had gallon cans with oil and gallon cans with antifreeze. The labels were the same color. Yes, I put 2 gallons of oil in a lady's radiator. The oil didn't cool very well and ruined her engine. Shop had to replace the engine and believe it or not I didn't get fired.

I walked to work in my first filling station job because I was 15. The boss found out I could do light mechanical work and we were suddenly flooded with carburetor, tuneups, generator and starter swaps and lawn mower work as well as belts and hoses. Rebuilt the carburetor on a lawnmower one week. Saturday morning I was bolting it on when the customer came in to the office. Boss comes out and takes my ratchet and says "I'll finish it up". Carburetor was away from the office door where the customer was standing. Boss promptly twists off the first bolt, stands up and hands me the ratchet and tells me to finish it. He then tells the customer it would be ready Sunday afternoon. My first experience with incompetent management to be repeated many times over in different ways for the next fifty years.

Too bad about the engine. But I'll bet you never made that mistake again. Had an estimator friend who as a young man driving the bosses around on a pipeline right of way had the engine overheat from too much idling. Spread man told him to go and fill the radiator with water from the water truck. They management guys noticed the car smoking and ran down to where he was calmly filling the engine with water through the oil filler opening. Ruined a rental car. He told me the story years later, still with the same company.

 

[Bob Heine]

In 1982 I changed the oil and installed an STP oil filter on the '72 Corvette before driving from Boca Raton to TICO Airport (Titusville, FL) for an autocross event. The 175 mile trip up was uneventful and the four passes on the fairly open course went just fine. Fifty miles into the return trip and I hear a slight lifter tap that quickly turned into much worse noises. The filter gasket blew out and the engine that only needed new valve guide seals needed a bottom end rebuild.

While I had it apart... new pistons and rings, rebuilt rods, valve guides, seals, pushrods and springs, a new cam and all the rest of the wear items fell into the block when I wasn't paying careful attention. Waiting for engine work and parts, the TH400 transmission fell open and a big box of upgrade parts and a shift kit slipped in as well.

I may have overtightened (by hand) the filter but I've heard of similar problems with STP filters so maybe it wasn't all my fault.

I never flush more than one quart of fresh oil through the engine and I keep an extra quart in stock to make it look like a planned process. Having to go to the store for another quart is truly embarrassing. The Mobil 1 on the bottom shelf is a partial quart -- the four full ones are behind the WD-40 Lithium grease and orange Aerokroil cans on the middle shelf.

The half-empty jar of Vasaline on the top shelf was purchased when our son was born -- he's 53 years old.

 

[Moose97]

Wow! I just spent 2 days reading this thread! You are truly a renaissance man Andy! It is without a doubt the most enjoyable post going on GJ right now! I'm definitely subscribing and keeping up to date on your adventures.

I am a building official by day and I have loved your conversations on code requirements. Code is code but I too live in an area where I'm not bothered by folks like me. You sir are a master at "meeting the intent" of the code!

 

[BUGTHUG]

Like the "BUG" eye look of the dog on the Vaseline sticker.

 

[jimreed2160]

I love reading the "Cleaning my Shop" thread, or as I call it, "The Antics of Andy", or "Laughing with the Cows". And now at last I understand the thread title. What I did not realize was that your plan all along was to BUILD a shop first so you could then MAKE A MESS in it and then CLEAN it. Well played, Andy.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Wow! I just spent 2 days reading this thread! You are truly a renaissance man Andy! It is without a doubt the most enjoyable post going on GJ right now! I'm definitely subscribing and keeping up to date on your adventures.

I am a building official by day and I have loved your conversations on code requirements. Code is code but I too live in an area where I'm not bothered by folks like me. You sir are a master at "meeting the intent" of the code!

Whew! I need to have you talk to my wife! Thanks for the kind words

You know I take your comments as encouragement which does nothing to slow my enthusiasm. You may solely be responsible for the unrelenting expansion of my dreams.

Great quote: "where I'm not bothered by folks like me"

I appreciate your take on building codes. Isn't "the intent of the code" to avoid fire and injury, not to frustrate the common folk? We need more guys like you I fully understand however that to do your job properly you have to meet the letter of the code.

Like the "BUG" eye look of the dog on the Vaseline sticker.

I love reading the "Cleaning my Shop" thread, or as I call it, "The Antics of Andy", or "Laughing with the Cows". And now at last I understand the thread title. What I did not realize was that your plan all along was to BUILD a shop first so you could then MAKE A MESS in it and then CLEAN it. Well played, Andy.

No no, I just wanted to clean up my shop without having to throw away a lot of good stuff. That's what I told my wife and I'm sticking to it. But my minimalist add-on was affected by my GJ brain washing: Dream and dream big! I'm soon to have a foundry room and a paint booth and I have no more space to store stuff

But I'm having fun

 

[oldironfarmer]

No QST today! More doctor's visits and I had to load hay for my son. also got a load of wood for him from my neighbor (traded a bale of hay for a load of wood). I had changed the front brakes for him since he said it was growling. Then I heard it growl after the brake job. I checked the left rear while swapping tires and it was fine. Today after loading everything I checked the right rear and inside of rotor was rough

So I jacked up the loaded truck to put a used front pad on the inside.

Wrong! Different size. And a piston on the rotor was stuck. There's the problem. Called O'Reilly's and they had the pads and caliper in Cleveland Oklahoma. Ran to town (actually I drove), picked up parts, put them on, and was able to fill and bleed the one caliper alone by barely cracking the vent. Took two full hours.

Years ago I would have removed the piston and put a new seal in. Now you have to order piston kits and my son needs to pick up his truck tomorrow. $65 for the caliper was not too bad.

Pads are fully used and minimal metal to metal contact. New pad will clean the rotor right up.

Thanks for looking in!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, I like the way you put that the pads are " fully used "

I think I would use one word to describe them and I will leave that to your imagination..

Cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

In high school I used my tires up. I tried to get four ply (free from my station if they were too worn to be resold). I kept pretty close watch on them and would change them out when I could see three plies in the worn spots. One morning on my way to go to school (I had been watching the left front as it had two plies showing) I saw four plies and a white spot in the middle. Hmmm.... I poked the white spot with my finger and it was the tube. I let some air out and went on to school, changed the tire after school. When I changed the tire I added a patch to the worn spot on the tube. It was kind of thin there. We only had a manual tire changer but I got pretty fast at changing tires and always carried three or four spares. All through high school I never had to buy a tire and usually could get a used tube for free.

Old habits are hard to get rid of.

Riddle: After a Nun dies, why is her closet full of old clothes?






Answer: Old habits are hard to get rid of. I already told you that.

 

[dlcwent]

First I must say that your little oil change mishap has brought out some great tales of incompetence. I feel much better knowing I am a mere mortal.

Give me ammunition???????? I bring my own bullets to a gun fight.

I find your idea that the new pads will "clean up the rotor" is as bad as you punching the bull in the nose. But who am I to judge.( I'm the guy that forgot to put an oil filter back on)

By the way, this has to be the fastest growing thread on the GJ. I wonder why?

I think you missed Jim Reeds whole point.( I know you didn't, I just wanted to say he made a good one)

Well, enjoy your day and let's see what new adventure you'll bring our way. I'm feeling a little "lazy" Andy.

 

[drivesitfar]

ANDY: you have so many great posters on your thread everytime i check to see what's new and want to make a comment most times it's already been said.

with your balding FREE TIRES in high school and your great attitude it's no wonder you are successful.

are you still making time for ZUMBA classes? still standing in the front so you don't embarrass the new and current students?

just got to thinking is the lift in the PAINT BOOTH section of your new addition? is that maybe the reason you didn't bolt it down so if you need to paint something you just bring in BOB to remove the lift and move it outside for a few days?

cheers and i'm still tweaking the WEDDING CHAIR, but it's making progress.

have another great SATUR day!!

do you really punch your bull in the nose?

 

[oldironfarmer]

First I must say that your little oil change mishap has brought out some great tales of incompetence. I feel much better knowing I am a mere mortal.

Give me ammunition???????? I bring my own bullets to a gun fight.

I find your idea that the new pads will "clean up the rotor" is as bad as you punching the bull in the nose. But who am I to judge.( I'm the guy that forgot to put an oil filter back on)

By the way, this has to be the fastest growing thread on the GJ. I wonder why?

I think you missed Jim Reeds whole point.( I know you didn't, I just wanted to say he made a good one)

Well, enjoy your day and let's see what new adventure you'll bring our way. I'm feeling a little "lazy" Andy.

I was tickled by Jim Reed's post. He did well.

Amazing how the oil on the floor spread out the opportunity for others to slip in and share their admissions of mortality.

Many years ago I ran a Honda down to metal to metal, bought a set of pads and installed two pads on the bad side. Within a few thousand miles the pads were pretty much shot but the rotor was smoothly grooved. I put the other two pads on that rotor and at the next pad change they are OK and the rotor was even smoother, of course still grooved. The next set of pads lasted the same as the good side.

So since then I always use pads to turn rotors, and of course I save old pads and often put an old pad on to sacrifice for the cause.

I don't however, recommend you do that to a customer's car. Nor would I.

If you have never punched a bull in the nose but have been run over by one, you missed a chance to not get run over. Their noses are sensitive and a fist to the nose can bring them to their knees. And, unlike people, they respect the winner of a fight. I've never actually hit one with my fist but my son in law has. He typically puts himself into more demanding situations. I have, however, used a short stick or fiberglass rod to good advantage on a big broad nose.

It is critical that my bull places me above him in the pecking order, and a little pain accomplishes that. It's similar to how your wife handles you.

ANDY: you have so many great posters on your thread everytime i check to see what's new and want to make a comment most times it's already been said.

with your balding FREE TIRES in high school and your great attitude it's no wonder you are successful.

are you still making time for ZUMBA classes? still standing in the front so you don't embarrass the new and current students?

just got to thinking is the lift in the PAINT BOOTH section of your new addition? is that maybe the reason you didn't bolt it down so if you need to paint something you just bring in BOB to remove the lift and move it outside for a few days?

cheers and i'm still tweaking the WEDDING CHAIR, but it's making progress.

have another great SATUR day!!

do you really punch your bull in the nose?

Great posters, isn't that the truth! The mix of comments is tremendous. And everyone always agrees it is a good thing everyone is not like me.

And, no, I don't have to punch my bull in the nose. But I will if I have to. Animals can sense fear just like children can. You just can't be successful displaying fear around large animals.

When is the wedding? We want video

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: so do you do ZUMBA regularly so in case you need to run from that BULL you are able to??

i'm not sure there will be any video, but i'm pretty sure MANAGEMENT will let me take a few pictures of the bride and groom and maybe a few of them dancing too. not sure i'd want to clutter up the pictures with my mug though if that's ok.

our first and only dance rehearsal for the WEDDING CHAIR is this SUNDAY so i need to do a bit more tweaking before then. i'm almost thinking of building a prototype #2 out of wood cause MANAGEMENT doesn't like how noisy my aluminum one is.

keep checking on the WEDDING CHAIR THREAD and the link is in my sig line just above "I DO IT DADDY".

i'm guessing you are wishing me luck that i can actually pull this off since i'm neither a welder or fabricator?

cheers

 

[MarlynOC]

Best replacement for disc brakes was a guy that used pieces of wood as pads.

 

[dlcwent]

Andy, that is the first I ever heard of using the metal side of the pad for truing (kinda) a rotor. But it actually sounds feasible. You farm boys know all the tricks.

I am aware of the punch in the nose as my FIL always had oxen. But let me warn others that that method does not work on pigs. I actually broke a hoe handle in half over a boars nose after it bit my *** (thankfully I had a wallet that took the brunt of it) he just looked at me and snorted. I never put myself close enough to him to ever give him another chance to latch onto me.

You know most of what I say here is hopefully taken in the way it is intended (unintelligible babble) I never mean to offend.

Hopefully you will have a great weekend. I'm off to the races.

 

[jbmatth]

In response to dlcwent's comment above, pig as a whole different animal. Hopefully that is obvious by just looking at them. As you know pigs use their nose to root round in the dirt and they are very tough. Also pigs are surprisingly fast and agile. Even "domestic" pigs can run faster and jump higher would seem feasible. Also never get between a sow and her piglets, just trust me on that one, however, that is a sure way to guarantee which one will become beacon and sausage next.

JB