The VISES of Garage Journal
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drivesitfar
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BENT: if it wasn't too much money i'd probably buy it, but as you say it's had a tough life so i'd pass too if too much money.
Shift: great find.
ALL: i just started a thread in Vintage Tools where we can discuss who made the BEST VISE prior to WWII. there are a ton of choices that is for certain cause the quality back then wasn't sacrificed for the all mighty dollar.
post up your personal favorites or ones you'd like to own and let's have fun with it. another member started a thread asking about HOLLAND'S vises and we started talking about the BEST VISE on that thread and thought the discussion needed a thread of it's own. post up pictures, thoughts, catalog pages and articles and feel free to get in the discussion. it's not WWF or football so let's have some fun with this.
here's the link: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351094
Shift: great find.
ALL: i just started a thread in Vintage Tools where we can discuss who made the BEST VISE prior to WWII. there are a ton of choices that is for certain cause the quality back then wasn't sacrificed for the all mighty dollar.
post up your personal favorites or ones you'd like to own and let's have fun with it. another member started a thread asking about HOLLAND'S vises and we started talking about the BEST VISE on that thread and thought the discussion needed a thread of it's own. post up pictures, thoughts, catalog pages and articles and feel free to get in the discussion. it's not WWF or football so let's have some fun with this.
here's the link: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351094
drivesitfar
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ALL: since i think the CRAFTSMAN 519x's are maybe one of the best made and engineered vises made for their size i finally started a thread to maybe find the actual maker of them. here's the link:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351100
maybe with VA's help searching we can dig up the many posts on this thread where we talked about them and my goal is to find another person that becomes a new member like VISES that maybe has 200 of these stashed away with all the information about who and where these were made without having to go through 50,000 posts to find the questions.
my first guess is ROCK ISLAND made the 519x's, but i'm willing to read and listen to others if they think they know why another maker made them. Does it really matter who made them? probably not. why doesn't somebody take this patent and make them today? who knows what country they were made in cause Japan and Taiwan come in the talks occasionally?
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351100
maybe with VA's help searching we can dig up the many posts on this thread where we talked about them and my goal is to find another person that becomes a new member like VISES that maybe has 200 of these stashed away with all the information about who and where these were made without having to go through 50,000 posts to find the questions.
my first guess is ROCK ISLAND made the 519x's, but i'm willing to read and listen to others if they think they know why another maker made them. Does it really matter who made them? probably not. why doesn't somebody take this patent and make them today? who knows what country they were made in cause Japan and Taiwan come in the talks occasionally?
Shiftless
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Maybe made in Japan is a good guess.
I know the Craftsman 391. series with casting marks BF were Columbian vises made in Japan. I used to have one and it had some hard use. I didn't know better back in those days and thought it to be a good tool for pressing in bearings. It survived.
49s:
Thanks for posting the pic of the twin brother to mine.
I bet your was less $$
Mine was listed for quite a while on eBay with a BIN of $89...certainly not a you **** deal but to me a fair West Coast price considering its good condition and the fact I didn't have to pay shipping. (local pick up)
The swivel pin was loose so all I had to do was disassemble, scrub it down with Simple Green and a wire toothbrush, clean up the pin with some fine sandpaper, hit the handles with a drill mounted flab wheel, lubricate, reassemble and wipe on a thin coat of BLO.
Maybe made in Japan is a good guess.
I know the Craftsman 391. series with casting marks BF were Columbian vises made in Japan. I used to have one and it had some hard use. I didn't know better back in those days and thought it to be a good tool for pressing in bearings. It survived.
49s:
Thanks for posting the pic of the twin brother to mine.
I bet your was less $$
Mine was listed for quite a while on eBay with a BIN of $89...certainly not a you **** deal but to me a fair West Coast price considering its good condition and the fact I didn't have to pay shipping. (local pick up)
The swivel pin was loose so all I had to do was disassemble, scrub it down with Simple Green and a wire toothbrush, clean up the pin with some fine sandpaper, hit the handles with a drill mounted flab wheel, lubricate, reassemble and wipe on a thin coat of BLO.
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The casting outlines, and the style of swivel base lock would seem to identify that one as a 'no-name' by the Prentiss works.
At one time, the Prentiss Co. made quite a few no-name vises, presumably on contract for sales entities like Sears Roebuck, Montgomery Ward, etc., who would, again presumably, use decals for a 'house trade name'.
You may find a small, discreet 'P. V. Co.' marking on the fixed jaw casting.
cheers
Carla
Shiftless
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zoomieport
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Does the lack of a split in the tail preclude Prentiss?
Let's see, who makes the swivel jaw models... Prentiss, Reed, Columbian, Parker, Hollands...
ID this FRONT SWIVEL JAW for me and you'll be my HERO!
I have never seen a mounting base like this, the swivel lock appears to be Prentiss, but the front swivel jaw has got me confused, "somehow" I think it's a LEWIS VISE...
Take care, Y'all!
Mike
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kwoswalt99
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It's definitely a Lewis vise.
kwoswalt99
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Is that the only picture you've got of it?
I need to disassemble mine, clean it up a bit and lubricate. It deserves some TLC, but I have a bunch of other vises in line ahead of it. I picked up some BLO the other day and I'm anxious to try it out on a freshly wire wheeled vise
kwoswalt99
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zoomieport
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Thank you!
Mike
No, but they are on another computer, I'll try to find more on here, or I will take more, asap.
Thanks!
Mike
Let's discuss.
You have become the highlight of my day, you've got an absolutely amazing collection!
WEL DONE, SIR!
Mike
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Rock Island 7" vise I bought a few weeks ago.
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zoomieport
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VISEs,
It's hard to discuss vises I'VE NEVER SEEN...
Just keep posting!
Thanks!
Mike
It's hard to discuss vises I'VE NEVER SEEN...
Just keep posting!
Thanks!
Mike
kwoswalt99
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I was wondering if someone here picked that up.
ssffnomad
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Shiftless
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nomad:
Your post is a bit confusing.
Mark:
Are you looking for a collar with a set screw? You might find such a thing new at an industrial supply kind of place.
Your post is a bit confusing.
Mark:
Are you looking for a collar with a set screw? You might find such a thing new at an industrial supply kind of place.
sixkidsdad
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Hello Garage Journal community,
I'ts been a while. Three in college, been busy. I'm considering going to look at a vise but I'm not familiar with it. I doubt anyone remembers but I have four boys and I want each of them to have something nice to be able to use for years. I have one more vise to go and before I make the trip I want to learn about what I'm looking at. I'm going to try to post some pics of it so you can see it. Is this vise close to the Reed 4C? I really don't know what I'm looking at with this one. Thank you for your opinions!
I'ts been a while. Three in college, been busy. I'm considering going to look at a vise but I'm not familiar with it. I doubt anyone remembers but I have four boys and I want each of them to have something nice to be able to use for years. I have one more vise to go and before I make the trip I want to learn about what I'm looking at. I'm going to try to post some pics of it so you can see it. Is this vise close to the Reed 4C? I really don't know what I'm looking at with this one. Thank you for your opinions!
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FMC1959
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It's a Morgan 6", says so on the last pick. Excellent vise but different from a 4C; 4C is a combo vise and would have pipe jaws. Looks very clean and in good shape, unless they are asking crazy money, that vise is a great buy.
ssffnomad
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Just saying I have had for awhile. Do not use it. It was mistreated before me
va.grouseman
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Sixkids, the 4C is a combination vise/pipe vise, but that Morgan 6 inch is a darn nice vise for anybody.---You would do well cottoning on to that one IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.
zoomieport
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IMO, a solid MORGAN #160 will serve and man, woman or child excellently for a lifetime!
I have all of the sizes (except a #170...) of MORGAN vises, they are quality tools, plus they still make replacement parts!
Go for it!
Take care!
ZOOM
zoomieport
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va.grouseman
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zoomieport
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Nice one, VA!
Take care, Sir!
Mike
Take care, Sir!
Mike
Son of a two headed purple headed ant eater!
"V.A. You complete me"!
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jakemac
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Did anyone here get that Reed 102-1/2 off eBay today ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162367136337?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I had my eye on it, but couldn't get the money together in time. I'm hoping it went to a fellow member.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162367136337?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I had my eye on it, but couldn't get the money together in time. I'm hoping it went to a fellow member.
Just to let everyone know this is the second vise he has that I was certain no one else had!
Gosh darn proud of you V.A.
That man has got some dandy's!
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zoomieport
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His collection is so "unique", he's got some "smalls" that are incredible!
drivesitfar
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VA: i can't say i've seen you post this Velox vise in the past, but you might have. does that screw on the side adjust the height of the dynamic jaw so that you can get it to line up or is that a problem with that particular vise?
ALL: anybody have Craftsman 519x's pictures to post on the new "WHO MADE THE CRAFTSMAN 519x's" thread. or any information on patents or information on whether it was made in the US or Japan or Taiwan?
just curious if any of you know when the USA was starting to import items from Japan or Taiwan? i'm guessing after WWII, but i don't know if there is an actual date available that is known?
here's the link for the 519x's thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351100
ALL: anybody have Craftsman 519x's pictures to post on the new "WHO MADE THE CRAFTSMAN 519x's" thread. or any information on patents or information on whether it was made in the US or Japan or Taiwan?
just curious if any of you know when the USA was starting to import items from Japan or Taiwan? i'm guessing after WWII, but i don't know if there is an actual date available that is known?
here's the link for the 519x's thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351100
Hi, can anyone give me some info on this vise? I can't make out the model number. How big is it, how much does it weigh, how much is it worth (central PA)?
I'm looking for a general purpose vise to use, not a collector's vise.
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I'm looking for a general purpose vise to use, not a collector's vise.
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Maui
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Sld961, it looks like a Columbian 604. And it appears that somebody dropped it on its tail at some point and damaged the top end of the slide at the rear. I would inspect this area closely for cracks.
This would serve as a good general purpose vise if it is in good working condition.
Maui
This would serve as a good general purpose vise if it is in good working condition.
Maui
PghJKB
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Let's discuss.
Here is what I have on the Velox:
Edwin W Fulton received two patents for the Velox design.
The first patent, #1,299,828, was submitted 3 Dec 1918, granted 8 Apr 1919 and rights were assigned to The Velox Vise Company of Lowville NY.
URL to full patent on USPTO site:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...1=1299828.PN.%26OS=pn/1299828%26RS=PN/1299828
The second patent was #1,387,845, was submitted 29 Jan 1920, granted 16 Aug 1921 and rights were also assigned to The Velox Vise Company of Lowville NY.
URL to full patent on USPTO site:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...1=1387845.PN.%26OS=pn/1387845%26RS=PN/1387845
VA and VISEs you may be able to date yours based on the patented features, i.e. pre or post 1387845.
While I could not find anything specific about Velox Vise the company, Fulton apparently sold the rights to either produce or sell the Velox to National Metal Products around 1920. In 1922 Fulton Machine and Vise of Lowville went into bankruptcy.
There are several articles announcing the Velox below. As well as two ads, the color one is quite striking. Also, the images from both patents.
Never thought I would actually see one.
JKB
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PghJKB
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With the slide damaged like that it will not be easily removed from the vise body without some whittlin'.
JKB
dutchgray
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That Columbian would make a good general use vise, if it hasn't got a crack.
Judging from the leaves and boot in the picture its pretty small, maybe 3" jaw width.
Judging from the leaves and boot in the picture its pretty small, maybe 3" jaw width.
kwoswalt99
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You can hammer that back into shape.
I stumbled onto this Hollands 43 if anyone is interested in one: https://oregoncoast.craigslist.org/tls/5952206132.html