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I am sure it has been discussed before but I am not sure what to get. I have a 2.5 Ton Craftsmen jack now that is not quite low profile enough for my needs.

I need a jack that can get under low cars and also be used on Pick up trucks.

I don't want to go much over $300 less is always better.


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I second the hf jack if it is low enough for you they are good jacks and the price is right.
 
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I have 2 HF rapid pump jacks they work great. ( 3 and 4 ton ) the 4 ton is actually low enough the fit under an 89 civic and lifts my dodge ram 4x4 with no problems.
 
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This One ? I am just not sure if it is lower enough.

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-daytona-professional-steel-floor-jack-super-duty-63183.html
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How low do you need it to go? The daytona fully lowered is just under 4" min and raises up to just over 23".

Edit: I really like My Daytona so far, but here at GJ we have a resident expert on all things jacks, Hiball, and he's taken a look though the insides of it and wasn't too impressed. I'm pretty sure he'd be the first to tell you that for you budget of "I don't want to go much over $300" you would be a lot better off looking at a Hein Werner 2 ton or 3 ton. For that you'd get a 'made in USA (from global materials)' jack that's serviceable/rebuildable and is likely to last several times as long as any china-made jack like the Daytona or any of the others linked in your OP.

https://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=Hein+Werner
 

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I bought the 6 ton HF stands on sale for like $30-40 I think and have used them with my F250 diesel many times, as well as my k3500 mason dump. I do have a single Hein Warner 6 ton stand I stick under there as well, but its basically for moral support. I put it next to where I'm working and it doesn't carry any load. The HF's do it all and very well.
 
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I would also buy HF Daytona 3T Super Duty floor jack if I had to buy a new one. It is a very nice one at $199. Don't forget to buy a set of jack stands too.
 
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I'm one of those that thinks jacks are one place not to save money. I had only usa made jacks. Std and long reach. Used them like crazy and never had an issue. As to stands, same thing. Shop had a set of hf 5 ton stands bought by previous owner. One day I'm looking at one and I see one leg cracking near a weld. Maybe I had an odd ball. But tossed the set and got american made. My and my guys lives were not worth the risk.
just sayin.
 
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Lower the better, the daytona jack looks nice wish it went a touch lower not sure if it would work or not. I really like the idea of the weight of an aluminum but I think over all the Pittsburgh may be best bet.
 
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I have the grey HF 3ton, that thing is low and also tall at the same time. Get's the wife's 2010 RDX off the ground no problem, used it last night on the front center jack point, lifts the whole front end off the ground solid with a few quick pulls.

great jack. http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-...vy-Duty-Floor-Jack-with-Rapid-Pump-61282.html

2 7/8" to 19 3/4"
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I have this jack as well and it will fit (just barely) under my lowered 2008 Volvo C30 and has no trouble picking up my 1985 Nissan pickup or my father's 2000 Tundra. Cheap and reliable, so far (have had it about a year). Get a hockey puck to use as a pad and it's been great. It's heavy, but it stays in my garage so it's no big deal to me.
 
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It is really nice. I struggled with a smaller craftsman jack for years....years! that I got from my dad. It was never tall enough to get the SUV's wheels off the ground and I would use something on top of it for extra height (bad idea, bad idea). My dad saw me doing this recently and bought me the HF for a early Christmas present, that dude rocks.

So this weekend I was able to lift the truck from the center point which enabled me to put a jack stand on each jack point on the sides, I found out this is how you are actually supposed to do it. then use my little craftsman jack with a block of wood to support under the engine and change out the lower torque engine mount easy as pie.....although that still didn't fix the vibration in the engine/suspension. BOO
 
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JOE.G said:
This One ? I am just not sure if it is lower enough.

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-daytona-professional-steel-floor-jack-super-duty-63183.html
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Get that one. That's honestly the only thing that I have purchased from HF that I have not regretted / has broken in a span of a couple days. It replaced my 4/5yr old craftsman jack. The speedy lift one.

I went to go get it because I was trying to find a rolling cart and I was recommended one. I didn't get any of em because A. The black one was being held up by tape on the hinges and smashed my fingers. And B. The red the gas struts shut violently. I didn't feel confident with em so just passed.

However I was lured by the Daytona and honestly it's held up well. I've had it for a month since yesterday and I lift cars every weekend. It's lifted a 2014 370z nismo, 04 Honda Civic, 02 Chevy cavalier, 02 GMC envoy and a 2013 Nissan rogue. This weekend I'll be working on a 08 ram and I am confident it will do it easily .

Only thing I don't like about it is that at first it was perfectly slowly dropping cars. Now it's starting to let go a bit more harsh.

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the grey one lets cars down real slow too, which i like, not sure if it will eventually change or not but i know my old craftsman went from raised to ground in like 1/10th of a turn of the knob haha
 
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What makes the Daytona a better deal? They are both 3 ton, the Pittsburgh goes lower and both lift to about the same height? I do like the looks of the Daytona better but for $100 bucks I can get a custom paint job on the Pittsburgh lol.

Seriously I appreciate all the feed back I am really trying to figure this out. Knowing me Ill end up buying two a steel and an aluminum.
 
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^^ I am curious too. I have the Pittsburgh and it works well. Smooth release to lower it, goes up plenty high and is inexpensive.
 
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What makes the Daytona a better deal? They are both 3 ton, the Pittsburgh goes lower and both lift to about the same height? I do like the looks of the Daytona better but for $100 bucks I can get a custom paint job on the Pittsburgh lol.

Seriously I appreciate all the feed back I am really trying to figure this out. Knowing me Ill end up buying two a steel and an aluminum.
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Well, if you were to check them out side by side in the store, you would see the Daytona is a better looking jack all around. It has thicker steel, better welds, grease fittings on pivot points even the wheels. It's larger and ~30% heavier but it rolls easier - super-easy. The Daytona also lifts more than 3 " higher which when dealing with trucks and SUVs can be a huge deal.

Harbor Freight's marketing pretty much explains why they think it's a better jack. They claim it has several features (better seals, magnet filtration, etc) why it should last longer. The Daytona comes with a 3-year warranty vs 90 days for the Pittsburgh jacks.

The real bruhaha though is Harbor Freight compares it in advertising to Snap On's floor jack (also made in China) and they are similar enough in appearance and features that Snap On filed a lawsuit against them over it. Some here at GJ have even noted that the exploded parts list for the two jacks (attached) are similar enough that there's been some speculation that they might even be manufactured in the same Chinese plant. Probably not, but there are a lot of similarities. Whatever the reason, Snap On got pretty ****-hurt over it.

Snap-on suing Harbor Freight over floor jacks
Complaint alleges patent infringement
https://www.biztimes.com/2016/09/22/snap-on-suing-harbor-freight-over-floor-jacks/

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WWheeler said:
Well, if you were to check them out side by side in the store, you would see the Daytona is a better looking jack all around. It has thicker steel, better welds, grease fittings on pivot points even the wheels. It's larger and ~30% heavier but it rolls easier - super-easy. The Daytona also lifts more than 3 " higher which when dealing with trucks and SUVs can be a huge deal.

Harbor Freight's marketing pretty much explains why they think it's a better jack. They claim it has several features (better seals, magnet filtration, etc) why it should last longer. The Daytona comes with a 3-year warranty vs 90 days for the Pittsburgh jacks.
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May I ask where you got your information? Have you personally seen both models next to each other? Was it the Daytona 3 ton versus the snap on fj300/ 3 ton Or the Daytona 3 ton versus the Snap On fj200/2 ton like in the HF ads? 30% Heavier? What comparison again? Btw... What grease zerks does the HF have that the Snap on doesn't? I won't dig into the rest of your argument, but I will clarify a few things, both jacks claim Ucup/Premium seals, we Know the HF doesn't utilize a Ucup on Main ram, whereis Snap on claims:

Premium U-Cup seals on pumps and ram pistons for long life


There is no doubt in my mind that both utilize the same magnetic filtration system that they both advertise.
 
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May I ask where you got your information? Have you personally seen both models next to each other? Was it the Daytona 3 ton versus the snap on fj300/ 3 ton Or the Daytona 3 ton versus the Snap On fj200/2 ton like in the HF ads? 30% Heavier? What comparison again? Btw... What grease zerks does the HF have that the Snap on doesn't? I won't dig into the rest of your argument, but I will clarify a few things, both jacks claim Ucup/Premium seals, we Know the HF doesn't utilize a Ucup on Main ram, whereis Snap on claims:

Premium U-Cup seals on pumps and ram pistons for long life


There is no doubt in my mind that both utilize the same magnetic filtration system that they both advertise.
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Hiball, look at the post I was replying to. I'm comparing it to the Pittsburgh 3 ton jack at Harbor Freight, not the Snap On. :wink:
 
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Hiball, look at the post I was replying to. I'm comparing it to the Pittsburgh 3 ton jack at Harbor Freight, not the Snap On. :wink:
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My apologies Mr Wheeler, I seen the HF vs SO comparison/link and didn't spend enough time reading thru the thread.... Carry on fella's. I will add my 2 cents, I'd probably go with the Daytona over the standard HF just based off the pump piston seals and warranty alone.
 
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What about any of the other ones in the links above, The Jeg's jack looks nice, Wha about the sunex?
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At those price points, your essentially getting the same Jack with different color schemes and frame designs. The twin pump design that everyone is using is very similar across the board, there are subtle changes (options) that make them different, unfortunately these sellers are very "top secret" in regards to disclosing Seal Components. In my opinion... If you need one of these low profile jacks, choose the one that can easily be warranted and if available, purchase a extended warranty.
 
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Wasn't hf sued for this jack for patent infringement because it was nearly identical to theirs? Might be hard to get now....but that's the one I would want!
 
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https://www.biztimes.com/2016/09/22/snap-on-suing-harbor-freight-over-floor-jacks/


Good luck on that one
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Prolly THIS forum......is the one mentioned in the action.

The HF 68050 steel jack with T handle was the lowest / longest of the HF offerings for a while. At 2 and 5/8 was capable of easily getting under a Corvette. Just a hair under 2 feet of lift. Add the 60762 Cross Beam (for $25 on sale) for very sweet set up.

It appears the 60678 and 62310 are the same as 68050.

The Daytona looks pretty sweet though....
 
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Those both look nice jacks, I wish the Aluminum one lifted a little higher. I have not ordered one yet as I still have a good working jack but I plan to soon.
 
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JOE.G said:
Well I ordered the HF Daytona jacket hopefully i like it.
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I have this 2 ton Pittsburg jack. It was the lowest profile, highest lift jack I could find. It lifts up my 95 f350 ext cab diesel dually. Never tried to lift the entire front of the truck (both front wheels at once). But for doing brakes, or getting it up on jackstands it's fine. I redid the entire front end on it using that jack to get it up in its stands..

http://t.harborfreight.com/automoti...vy-duty-floor-jack-with-rapid-pump-68050.html

The Daytona might be better, but this is what was available when I needed one. I have no complaints
 
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At the time of this post I had purchased the HF Daytona Jack,
I am now looking for another jack as as one of my others is leaking pretty good now and not sure its worth the rebuild. I am looking at these two, I am not looking to spend much more then these but am open to ideas.
WOuld like something that is lighter in weight and easy to move around.

https://www.costco.com/3-Ton-Profes...And-Steel-Service-Jack.product.100222458.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton...vy-Duty-Floor-Jack-with-Rapid-Pump-61282.html
 
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JOE.G said:
I need a jack that can get under low cars and also be used on Pick up trucks.
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This is a problem ! I have a "typical", non-low-profile floor jack (old Sears) that works great, but when using on a truck, it does NOT have enough lift range ! I always have to use a chunk or 4x6 to make up some of the difference.

I have never seen a lift pad "extension" for a floor jack, like they use on pots jack arms/pads. Probably because it has to fit the lift pad hole well.
 
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