The VISES of Garage Journal

[wrenchguy]

$50.00 don't sound too bad Bcom, but I'm still calling.

i really don't understand his avatar and some of his post are crass, but i take a guy at his word on here with the number post he has. would he have possession of it all ready?

 

[Bellaireroad]

Man, my folks are an hour from there....calling them now!

Good luck!!


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[meatsis]

Man, my folks are an hour from there....calling them now!

I'm pretty sure that vise is already taken

 

[joe.striper]

Here's one for the big vise lovers

https://reading.craigslist.org/tls/6000703821.html


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Too late fellas, sorry....

 

[blsnelling]

What's that monster weigh?

 

[FMC1959]

What's that monster weigh?

In the 280 lb ballpark

 

[VISEs]

So copies are gonna be around $50.

I'll go ahead and PayPal you the money for 4 copies...just show us the goods


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[Bellaireroad]

Too late fellas, sorry....

Post some pics when you get it


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[joe.striper]

Post some pics when you get it


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Truth in advertising...my neighbor is getting it, I'm getting his 8" fixed base Reed. He said he only needs one! He was just lucky and snagged it right as it went up. Its all good to me.

 

[va.grouseman]

Originally posted by Wrenchguy.

I really don't understand his avatar and some of his post are crass, but I take a guy at his word on here with the number post he has. would he have possession of it all ready?
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Good point Wrench, but he's been known to goof around a little.---I still got to see to believe.

 

[zoomieport]

Once again, I am sorry to interrupt the vise madness, but I am compelled to thank some members for their extreme generosity, I REALLY hope I don't forget anyone, I think I sent you all a personal thank you, but I think you also deserve public recognition.
Cretedog
NCboat
FMC1959
G-ManBart
Thank you all, you honestly have humbled me, I am in awe of the generosity of the Gentlemen on this site.
You are GOOD PEOPLE!
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Mike Dillon

https://www.stbaldricks.org/participants/mypage/883781/2017

I am freaked out by you guys and your generosity it is AWESOME!

Thanks Bcom!
Awesome!

Mike

https://www.stbaldricks.org/participants/mypage/883781/2017

 

[VISEs]

Truth in advertising...my neighbor is getting it, I'm getting his 8" fixed base Reed. He said he only needs one! He was just lucky and snagged it right as it went up. Its all good to me.

Call your neighbor. I don't think he has it bought just yet....he is going to really have to come out of pocket if so....the guy told me he had a $1,150 dollar offer on it. Crazy!




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[va.grouseman]

I gave $800.00 plus shipping for mine near 5 years ago.---Plain 208 is 278 lbs., 208R is 291lbs.---$1150.00 would still be in fair territory.---Whole lot more vise than a 238lb. Wilton for $3000.00.

 

[kwoswalt99]

Did Wilton pull the plug on Columbian?

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

I had a few minutes to carefully clean up the baby I bought yesterday and it's even better than I thought. The paint is still on the jaws where they meet the jaw towers....wow. The slide is stamped 12-3-66.

It's okay to put a vise on the nightstand so you see it when you first wake up, and then move it to your desk so you can see it while you're typing, right?

That is a clean baby bullet

 

[G-ManBart]

I'm pretty sure that vise is already taken

Could be. I texted with him right after I posted and he said it wasn't sold, but he had several people interested. I told him to let me know and my father could be there in an hour with cash...how much I offered I'm not saying. I'm not holding my breath!

 

[G-ManBart]

That is a clean baby bullet

That's what I thought too! Managing this and the 9450SJ at the same time had me buzzing all day.

 

[bluebolt]

Thanks to the all the replies, they are asking north of 200 dollars, I have a ridged f-45 German made vise that's my go to right now. This vise seems to have a similar paint color. This one caught my eye because it's suppose to be old, & still has original wood crate,(no markings there either) however every quality vise, I've ever been in contact with proudly displayed there country of origin.

Where are you at in Louisiana bhardy23 ?. I am near Shreveport.

 

[G-ManBart]

I don't recall if I posted a pic of this when I got it....this had to be the dirtiest 1780 around! The jaws were trashed, and it had a layer of dirt/grease all over it.

After I got back from picking up my latest 600 I stripped it, primed it, painted it, wire wheeled the bare metal, and added a set of Kevin's jaws. I'm waiting on a pipe jaw (front was missing), but that's about it.

 

[bluebolt]

Picked up my second Grips All vise, this one has the label so I finally know the brand. Made in Taiwan, jaws are 3 3/8" wide.

 

[Bcom]

Pittsburgh Vise Catalog


Heres the scoop guys!!!

I did not win the Pittsburgh Vise catalog off ebay. And no one seems to know who did win it,so i did EVERYONE a solid. I messaged the original seller of the Pittsburgh vise catalog and told him to make copies of it before he shipped it out. So for you guys that missed out on the auction,the seller is currently making copies,so everyone can have a Pittsburgh catalog! Now isnt that wonderful?!? So keep an eye on the seller and put him in your favorites so you know when his copies are available.

 

[wrenchguy]

Pittsburgh Vise Catalog


Heres the scoop guys!!!

I did not win the Pittsburgh Vise catalog off ebay. And no one seems to know who did win it,so i did EVERYONE a solid. I messaged the original seller of the Pittsburgh vise catalog and told him to make copies of it before he shipped it out. So for you guys that missed out on the auction,the seller is currently making copies,so everyone can have a Pittsburgh catalog! Now isnt that wonderful?!? So keep an eye on the seller and put him in your favorites so you know when his copies are available.

if i was the ebay buyer i'd cancel the sale.

 

[Tonellin]

I don't recall if I posted a pic of this when I got it....this had to be the dirtiest 1780 around! The jaws were trashed, and it had a layer of dirt/grease all over it.

After I got back from picking up my latest 600 I stripped it, primed it, painted it, wire wheeled the bare metal, and added a set of Kevin's jaws. I'm waiting on a pipe jaw (front was missing), but that's about it.

Incredible! Nice save

 

[VISEs]

Pittsburgh Vise Catalog





Heres the scoop guys!!!



I did not win the Pittsburgh Vise catalog off ebay. And no one seems to know who did win it,so i did EVERYONE a solid. I messaged the original seller of the Pittsburgh vise catalog and told him to make copies of it before he shipped it out. So for you guys that missed out on the auction,the seller is currently making copies,so everyone can have a Pittsburgh catalog! Now isnt that wonderful?!? So keep an eye on the seller and put him in your favorites so you know when his copies are available.

Outstanding!!! Thank you


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[bhardy23]

I live in Henderson, La just East of Lafayette.

 

[exmaxima1]

Cracked Parker 806: "Doesn't Effect Operation"

I saw a local ad for a vintage Parker 806 fixed base vise for $350. Has a huge chunk missing from the slide, but when I commented about that to the seller he responded that "It doesn't effect the operation at all".

Am I the only one that thinks $350 is a laughable price for a broken vise?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/tls/5983584242.html

BTW, the seller also has it posted other places, but without the pics of the crack---I find that shameful.

 

[drivesitfar]

EX: there was a guy in Southern Oregon that tried to sell his Reed 3c with a similar cracked off chunk of the slide and said it worked perfect. this guy went one step further and put a pop can in front of where the chunk of slide was missing.

it might work the same, but if you are selling at that price you'd need to be pretty pristine and not have a flaw like that.

WRENCH: i think Pittsburgh vise company is long out of business so Ebay seller isn't breaking any copywright laws or is he? the EBAY buyer which might be one of the guys on this thread is still getting the ORIGINAL for his collection which is where the value is. i do see your point though.

GMAN: since your WILTON MAGNET seems to be working PERFECT can you hook me up with a ROCK ISLAND ONE??

 

[bluebolt]

Well I got an Email back from Wilton and they have switched back to the older style of jaw attachment. I did not get a date on when they did this so I sent another Email for some hopeful clarification.

Here's a copy of the text of the message.


"The jaws on the 600 Series Machinist vise do mount with the screw coming from the outside of the jaws as opposed to having the screws inserted into the face of the insert. This has been consistent with both the 600 and 800 vise for a long time. Thanks."

I know the pictures on the website for the 600 are of a 450 bullet so it doesn't show this.

454ragtop, I do agree that casting look like a date code but I think it is day / month / year , not year / month / day. I have seen it both ways on car parts.

This would line up with blsnelling's vise having a casting date of 11 D (April) 16 and a keyway date of 7/16 (June 2016)

G-ManBart, why do you say Wilton does not have replacement jaws for the 600 with back of the insert retention, because of a picture? Most places when I look up 600 jaws they show a generic picture of jaws that doesn't change no matter what size.

Wilton shows 2903280 as the replacement jaws for the current 600 although the drawing shows the screws going through the face.

For the C3 Wilton shows 2907370 again with a drawing of the going through the face of the jaws.

Looking at ereplacement parts website for 2903280 shows an actual picture of these jaws on an assumed 1" grid and they are 6 squares long and attach from the back.

These jaws are supposed to fit ALL 600's from both before 1998 and 1998 and up plus C3s from before 1984.
We know this is incorrect because somewhere in this time period 600's were made with front of jaw face screw attachment.

Ereplacement shows C3's got a new part number 2907370 for 1984 and up and 1998 and up. The picture are the jaws with through the serrated face of the jaws and the grid shows them being 6 squares long.

There are some obvious problems with some of Wilton's website pictures and manuals.

Apparently with the mergers and acquisitions of Wilton in the past few decades information was lost and the guy I was emailing at Wilton has no record of the 600 and 800 having bolt though the face jaws.


Here's my Email

"Tony, thank you for the answer. I know for a few years Wilton was making the 600 with the screws through the serrated face because I have seen them. I was not aware Wilton had switched back.

So do you know off chance when the switch was?"

Here's his Email.

"If this is the case, I would not have that information available as that was not knowledge that WMH Toll Group was privy to when WHM bought the rights to Wilton vises."

 

[bluebolt]

It looks like new Columbian Vise's have suffered a quiet death after over 100 years. This probably happened after the 2014 acquisition of Wilton, Jet and Powermatic by Tenex Capital Management. The Columbian vise manuals with parts are in the obsolete part of the manuals section. I checked some parts and some are available but prices are SCARY!

 

[joe.striper]

Re: Cracked Parker 806: "Doesn't Effect Operation"

I saw a local ad for a vintage Parker 806 fixed base vise for $350. Has a huge chunk missing from the slide, but when I commented about that to the seller he responded that "It doesn't effect the operation at all".

Am I the only one that thinks $350 is a laughable price for a broken vise?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/tls/5983584242.html

BTW, the seller also has it posted other places, but without the pics of the crack---I find that shameful.

I'd pay the $350 for it as a user. Not much room for resale but it is in otherwise good shape. It could be repaired as well and he is right it won't affect its operation for 99.9% of its uses.

I will buy damaged pieces if they are rare. what destroys the value on a 4" Columbian might have negligible impact on an 8" Parker.

Last year I bought a Prentiss 23. 7" jaws swiveling dynamic jaw. It had a broken foot, a crappy handle and It need to have the jaws replaced. I paid $150, but I'm damn glad I got it. When it is done it will be gorgeous and I won't lose money on it.

 

[joe.striper]

Call your neighbor. I don't think he has it bought just yet....he is going to really have to come out of pocket if so....the guy told me he had a $1,150 dollar offer on it. Crazy!




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I'm dissapointed. My buddy was the first caller and they agreed to the price, he was driving there Saturday to pick it up. I guess some people's word has a price tag attached to it.

Recently I was the 2nd caller on a 9" Reed that was selling for $100. I did ask the seller if he'd take more but he was a MAN OF HIS WORD and he declined. He even went to his buyer and gave him my name and # so I could buy it from them., to no avail.

I respect everone's right to do as they please, but I'm allowed to be dissapointed in people's choices.

 

[meatsis]

I'm dissapointed. My buddy was the first caller and they agreed to the price, he was driving there Saturday to pick it up. I guess some people's word has a price tag attached to it.

Recently I was the 2nd caller on a 9" Reed that was selling for $100. I did ask the seller if he'd take more but he was a MAN OF HIS WORD and he declined. He even went to his buyer and gave him my name and # so I could buy it from them., to no avail.

I respect everone's right to do as they please, but I'm allowed to be dissapointed in people's choices.

9"???? Are you talking about the blue Reed 108 that was on that wicked stand?

 

[va.grouseman]

Blue, right now there are 17---600s, and 18---800s, (NEW ONES) on EBay that different people/businesses are selling with the screws through the front face.---How could Wilton not know that they were made this way for a while?---How long have these NOS vises been setting on the shelf somewhere?

Personally, I like the screws through the back style, twice as good.

 

[FMC1959]

WRENCH:[/B] i think Pittsburgh vise company is long out of business so Ebay seller isn't breaking any copywright laws or is he? the EBAY buyer which might be one of the guys on this thread is still getting the ORIGINAL for his collection which is where the value is. i do see your point though.

I think if there are going to be copies, the original loses value. I might pay up to $50 for the original when there are dozens of pdf copies available, not 400 plus dollars

 

[va.grouseman]

FMC, be quiet, we haven't got our copies yet.

 

[jl4c]

I think if there are going to be copies, the original loses value. I might pay up to $50 for the original when there are dozens of pdf copies available, not 400 plus dollars

I get where you are coming from but there are thousands of copies of the Mona Lisa in print and they don't seem to have adversely affected the value of Master Da Vinci's original.

Unless that eBay transaction included a proviso that no copies would be made, I don't think the buyer can claim to be damaged.

 

[ritestuff]

I think if there are going to be copies, the original loses value. I might pay up to $50 for the original when there are dozens of pdf copies available, not 400 plus dollars

And also, once that item has been paid for, it is no longer the property of the seller. He has no legal or ethical right to use it to make copies once the sale is complete. The only thing that he should be doing is shipping it to his buyer. The time to make copies was before the sale. I'd be pissed about the seller profiting from the use of MY item AFTER the sale. It is 100% fact that reproductions affect the value of originals.

 

[wrenchguy]

Wrench: very generous of you to donate a $1000 vise to Zoomie and nice of Zoomie to pay shipping to raise money for his cause. i hope it sells for a ton!!

did u talk to zoom about the shipping? i said "i believe 100% selling price" nothing about shipping. lets try to keep things on the table with this deal.

when i can i help, i still got a couple vises out there i ain't picked up because someone asked. i'll be happy with what ever it brings…… i don't know what the last 1 on bay brought.

 

[joe.striper]

9"???? Are you talking about the blue Reed 108 that was on that wicked stand?

yea, yeah 8"...I'm losing my mind

 

[BFBOB]

It pains me to do this, but I just can't get it myself. Here is a Columbian 606, 100 lb. swiveling bestage!! ePay 371863793632 . Local picup only. It ends about 8M CST today, Feb. 13.

It's in LaSalle, Illinois, around 60 miles sw of Chicago. I could take the expense, but not the time to drive 460 miles to get it. I even tried FedEx. They will pack and ship. They will pick up and ship. But they won't pick up, pack and ship.

I'd feel a little better about losing out if it goes to a Garage Journalier.

Or, maybe it'll go so high I wouldn't have paid that much anyway.