zoomieport
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he's in Tease Mode....
Not trying to tease, but I am kind of excited...It's NOT a vise, it's a stand.
That's all I can say now, but it's NOT custom, it's factory made...?
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Not trying to tease, but I am kind of excited...It's NOT a vise, it's a stand.
That's all I can say now, but it's NOT custom, it's factory made...?
va.grouseman
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Must be one of those railroad monsters.---And now I'm sad.
zoomieport
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Must be one of those railroad monsters.---And now I'm sad.
No!
It's probably for a 3" or 4" vise, with the "chamfered" front, not "cornered".
oldldh
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Some chain yanking is warming up in Ye Olde Bullpen...
Me thinks...
Me thinks...
Waggoner72
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va.grouseman
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Waggoner, you stole that one.---Nice catch.
drivesitfar
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WAG: looks like the pin was removed and modified so it could be taken out easier the next times. since you bought it from a machine shop even though it looks a little rough that tells me at least it was maybe cleaned and greased more than once. nice price, but as some people might not understand your price it was part of a package deal for a lot of big machines instead of something they could just buy on it's own. you do seem to find some great stuff and not sure how you don't own a 60x120 garage or rent storage like i have to.
Zoomie: once you own it i'm sure we'll get pictures. does it have a place to be used or just adding it to the SEA of TETNUS??
Zoomie: once you own it i'm sure we'll get pictures. does it have a place to be used or just adding it to the SEA of TETNUS??
I saw this Buffalo 6 vise that is an obvious Wilton bullet clone. These were apparently made in Taiwan. Pics for posterity and the Craigslist ad it came from. Priced quite a bit higher than I would pay.
https://texarkana.craigslist.org/tls/6019712600.html
https://texarkana.craigslist.org/tls/6019712600.html
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FMC1959
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I am with you on it being a bit pricey. I am somewhat surprised that we don't see more Wilton copies out there considering how popular and how well they sell.
PghJKB
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This found me today! Amazing!
VISEs, CRS
On the Nason - BTW one was listed today on EvilPrey (Item #262874369004): way, way, way over my budget....
This took longer than it should have (This patent is in my collection, or is it accumulation, of what I consider important vise patents):
Patented by David Saunders of Brooklyn, NY. Letters of Patent do not contain a submission date, which is very odd, but the patent was granted 28 May 1867 as per the lettering on the vise which was none too clear on VISEs vise.
Here is the USPTO URL. It contains the images and full text of the patent:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...528.PD.%26OS=isd/05/28/1867%26RS=ISD/18670528
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CRSINMICH
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JKB: Thanks go to you once again. I couldn't quite read the patent date on the picture VISEs posted. I tried a few possible variations without success. I was going to ask VISEs if he could read the date on the actual vise but I forgot. I've added it to my files now - you never know.
EDIT: Have you added Saunders/Nason to the Vise Manufacturers' thread?
EDIT: Have you added Saunders/Nason to the Vise Manufacturers' thread?
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scooternut
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Hollands 15, paid too much, but now it's mine.
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This is excellent information and greatly appreciated!!!
Thank you for sharing!!!
I reached out to the person selling the one online. They came off the price some but not enough in my opinion otherwise I would have bought it.
Great great vise!
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PghJKB
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CRS
Not yet. I actually have several manufacturer's history's in the works, but solid facts are tough to come by and converting bitmaps to jpegs slows me down - the .BMP file size limits for uploading prohibit many of the supporting articles I want to include to be uploaded as screen shots.
Just started looking for Nason this AM, just do not have the time I need to do things correctly.
JKB
CRSINMICH
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CRS
Not yet. I actually have several manufacturer's history's in the works, but solid facts are tough to come by and converting bitmaps to jpegs slows me down - the .BMP file size limits for uploading prohibit many of the supporting articles I want to include to be uploaded as screen shots.
Just started looking for Nason this AM, just do not have the time I need to do things correctly.
JKB
I can't wait to read those histories, but by all means take the time to do it right.
va.grouseman
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Someone please look back on page 1776, post 35516, and tell me what kind of vise that is or what the logo is on the side. Thanks
trijeff
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New toys from a new friend! Plenty of "smalls" to put on them but still need my first baby bullet.
CRSINMICH
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va: I couldn't read it either but in post 35518 Cwazy Wabbit identifies it as a Record 34.
jakemac
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If you follow the link in the quote, he says that it's a Record with 4-1/2" jaws.
No model number is listed, unless it came up in a later post. I didn't follow the chain that far.
EDIT : CRSINMICH beat me to it.
va.grouseman
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Record 34.---Thanks CRS.
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Shiftless
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New toys from a new friend! Plenty of "smalls" to put on them but still need my first baby bullet.
Looking good there trijeff.
Keep looking...there are more than a few out there. But nice ones go for pretty big bucks. I looked a long time for my first and so far my only and found one in great condition but had to pay 250.
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ALLFAST
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Scooter,
That's a nice find. What are your plans for it ?
Shawn
That's a nice find. What are your plans for it ?
Shawn
So I believe I got a pretty good deal on my first vise a few weeks ago. I found another one locally that May be priced right and I wanted to get your thoughts.
It is a Columbian 604 m2. They guy wants $50 for it.
Handle looks slightly bent and I cannot see the Model or where it was made but I would assume its on the other side?
It is a Columbian 604 m2. They guy wants $50 for it.
Handle looks slightly bent and I cannot see the Model or where it was made but I would assume its on the other side?
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ryan20021982
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Heres the Taskmaster Bullet clone I finished
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4" Wilton Scout, still working on jaws
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then I picked these 3 up of Craigslist
Athol 624
Craftsman
True Value
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4" Wilton Scout, still working on jaws
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then I picked these 3 up of Craigslist
Athol 624
Craftsman
True Value
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ryan20021982
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If anyone has a handle for the swivel base for the Athol 624 above they would be willing to sell please let me know
Bellaireroad
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Champion?
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Thanks for posting that.. I bet this is made by champion ...
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FMC1959
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Again these are not my vises, they are from GJ member KMScott. Three Athol's, a 2" Athol 87, a 3" Athol 613, and an 3" Athol 79. You look at the 79, as well as the 2 Red Seals I posted a few days ago, and the jaws are dead giveaways as to who made them.
I post them so I can link them....
I post them so I can link them....
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meatsis
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Thanks for posting that.. I bet this is made by champion ...
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Speaking of champion tables, heres one I almost had. I spoke to the seller and agreed for me to pick it up the following day. I called right before leaving my house and the ***** told me she sold it to someone else.
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FMC1959
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A few more pics...
Three American Red Seal 53 BEFORE pics; the finished product are the red painted ones I posted a couple of days ago.
Then the last pic is a Majestic 3 1/2" vise sent to me by CRSINMICH. He has a clipping showing that Majestic and Morgan had the same Jefferson street address in Chicago. Anyone else have any info showing that Majestic was made or owned by Morgan?
Three American Red Seal 53 BEFORE pics; the finished product are the red painted ones I posted a couple of days ago.
Then the last pic is a Majestic 3 1/2" vise sent to me by CRSINMICH. He has a clipping showing that Majestic and Morgan had the same Jefferson street address in Chicago. Anyone else have any info showing that Majestic was made or owned by Morgan?
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FMC1959
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Speaking of champion tables, heres one I almost had. I spoke to the seller and agreed for me to pick it up the following day. I called right before leaving my house and the ***** told me she sold it to someone else.
That would have been a real nice vise and stand combo to have, bummer.
Of course if we listen to Joe Striper (and many of the posts you have shown), you have no shortage of big iron. Outside of Demo, you have an impressive 8" collection.
kwoswalt99
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Speaking of champion tables, heres one I almost had. I spoke to the seller and agreed for me to pick it up the following day. I called right before leaving my house and the ***** told me she sold it to someone else.
Wonder if that vise was made by them or not.
kwoswalt99
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So I believe I got a pretty good deal on my first vise a few weeks ago. I found another one locally that May be priced right and I wanted to get your thoughts.
It is a Columbian 604 m2. They guy wants $50 for it.
Handle looks slightly bent and I cannot see the Model or where it was made but I would assume its on the other side?
Worth it.
joe.striper
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I went outside this morning and what do I find but a big beautiful Nason vise in my driveway!!!! Thats now two vises I'm holding for Wrenchguy....I wonder how his health is???. 
. KMScott
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That one is another one I have. Here is the before pic's of the red A-Scale you posted a couple days ago this one had much more damage. It came out pretty nice, but like everyone says, you never know what is under paint. These vises were practice for the rare guys.
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trijeff
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Looks like it says Western Vise Co. On the front of the static, Western Tool & Mfg Co. on the rear.
From a post bl00 made in 2011, "Champion was a trade name for a line of wrenches, vises and other tools manufactured by the Western Tool & Mfg Co, Springfield, Ohio."
So it looks like yes.
I was told that you guys like vises. I picked up a Reed 106 this week from Craigslist and made a quick "before" video to show where it is now. I'll follow up after (maybe during) a cosmetic and mechanical rehab.
Couple questions -- any idea on date? From internet detectiving, I'm getting somewhere from 1915-1930. Also, how do I take it all the way apart? Do I just keep unscrewing until it comes apart, or is there something else I need to do?
Couple questions -- any idea on date? From internet detectiving, I'm getting somewhere from 1915-1930. Also, how do I take it all the way apart? Do I just keep unscrewing until it comes apart, or is there something else I need to do?
Kevin, you bring so much to this thread. We are lucky to have you. One fantastic restoration.
zoomieport
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he's in Tease Mode....
Must be one of those railroad monsters.---And now I'm sad.
It's a factory make base, 33-1/2" tall, 16" base, 130lbs...
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FMC1959
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AKO, welcome to the vise thread.
You might be right about the dates. Closer to 1900, they may have had some patent dates, I have seen 1910 dates. This model changed to the "R" version, somewhere in the mid to late 1930's and before that change, the Reeds had a 4 hole base to mount it, so again, your thought on the dates sounds about right.
For the handle, at first the slack in the ball might look like a lot of hard use. I am wondering if more likely it is not the original handle but a replacement that is not quite the same diameter as the original. I don't have a 106, maybe someone on this thread that has one could let you know the diameter, which would answer that question.
Overall looks to be in great shape and should be a super vise for years to come.