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KyleDriver

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New member here. I recently purchased a Montgomery Ward drill press that is in need of a new front pulley. The rest of the drill press is great, just needs this pulley to be operational.

The model number on the badge is 34FD621B and it's a 15 inch bench top model. I attached pictures for clarification.

Any idea where I can find one? Or if someone on here has one I will buy it off you.
 

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First, Welcome to the site. Glad to have you here. I wish I could be more helpful.

The pulleys with the splined arbor are harder to match than the motor pulleys. I'm not sure who sells them.

You may have to be patient and wait for someone on eBay to part out a machine. It helps to set up a search with email alerts, but it still could be a long wait.
 

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hi kyle, welcome to the site, i'm also newbie. what are the numbers on the pulley (pic#4). that's a good place to start.
 

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Do you know anyone with a machine shop ?
That pot metal is a joke.
I think you may need to have someone make one.
 

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New member here. I recently purchased a Montgomery Ward drill press that is in need of a new front pulley. The rest of the drill press is great, just needs this pulley to be operational.

The model number on the badge is 34FD621B and it's a 15 inch bench top model. I attached pictures for clarification.

Any idea where I can find one? Or if someone on here has one I will buy it off you.

That drill press was make by Duro Metal Products Co., Chicago, IL.

Link to company history:

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=270&tab=0

Parts are no longer available. You will need to adapt something, make new, or find a parts donor.

Here is a photo of a late 40's vintage floor model which looks similar.
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=3538
 
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There are some outfits that can laser scan and 3-D print in metal (metal particles fused by laser). Pricey, though, for a one-off job.
 
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KyleDriver

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hi kyle, welcome to the site, i'm also newbie. what are the numbers on the pulley (pic#4). that's a good place to start.

I was hoping there would be a part number on it but all it is says is "Made in U.S.A."

Do you know anyone with a machine shop ?
That pot metal is a joke.
I think you may need to have someone make one.

Unfortunately, I do not.

That drill press was make by Duro Metal Products Co., Chicago, IL.

Link to company history:

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=270&tab=0

Parts are no longer available. You will need to adapt something, make new, or find a parts donor.

Here is a photo of a late 40's vintage floor model which looks similar.
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=3538

Thanks for the history info! Pretty interesting. I will have to see about modifying something for it.


Pot metal would be easy to file, just gotta keep the file clean.

Right after I took these pictures, I started the drill press back up and all the broken pieces of the pulley flew off like shrapnel.
 

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New member here. I recently purchased a Montgomery Ward drill press that is in need of a new front pulley. The rest of the drill press is great, just needs this pulley to be operational.

The model number on the badge is 34FD621B and it's a 15 inch bench top model. I attached pictures for clarification.

Any idea where I can find one? Or if someone on here has one I will buy it off you.

FWIW, I once repaired one similar to that.

1. Cut a disc from 1/8" aluminum the same as the largest OD of the pulley.
2. Place the plate on the bottom of the pulley. Drill a series of 3/16" holes through the plate and into the remaining solid area of the pulley.
3. Mix a large batch of JB Weld and overfill the that broken flange on the bottom of the pulley. Make sure the JB Weld comes out the bottom of the flange and the inner groove of the pulley. Use the material to replace any missing parent metal
4. Once the epoxy begins to set up enough so it won't run. Make an outside retaining band of cardboard and tape. Place the pulley small end down in a disposable pie tin and cure it overnight in a 175-degree oven.
5. Using a coarse file, remove the excess which squeezed through the drilled holes.
6. Place the pulley back on the DP and install the belt in one of the undamaged grooves. (Note - the following operation can be hazardous to your fingers.) With the motor turning the pulley, working on the front of the pulley away from the belt, use a fine file to finish smoothing the inside of the repaired V-groove of any bent parent metal or JB Weld.

It's been running that way for ten years with zero problems. Your results may vary.

jack vines
 
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Carla

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Jack's method would work well, no question, but it does involve a good bit of highly skilled and patient work.

There is a simpler, albeit lesser quality, of 'improvisation' which I've done on the similar driven pulley of a Delta DP220. That one had multiple areas broken away from its lower V flange. This was to simply remove that lower flange, and accept having only the three higher spindle speeds, which had that little drill press being entirely adequate for woodworking use, and good for 5/16" drills in steel. (I later traded that DP220 off to a woodworker, and kept only one of the little Delta drill presses, a slow speed version, for my own use.)

It would be quick and simple to hack-saw away the lower flange, and file the remainder of the pulley to a uniform height, to keep it in balance, as nearly as might be.

There are a lot of older small machines, from the era of American high quality production, which are being restored for practical use, these days, when the only alternative is horrible low-quality oriental 'joke machines'. Someday, somewhere, someone with a small machine shop business will be offering to make short runs of parts like that pulley, most likely cast in a good grade of aluminium instead of that horrible zinc alloy. Its an easy turret lathe job, once a setup is made, and broaching the spline is quick and easy, to be sure. The only feasibility question for that specific part is the first cost of the broach itself.

(there is quite an opportunity here for the right person......consider Mr Scott's operation in providing the parts to restore old vises to serviceability)

cheers

Carla
 
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KyleDriver

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FWIW, I once repaired one similar to that.

1. Cut a disc from 1/8" aluminum the same as the largest OD of the pulley.
2. Place the plate on the bottom of the pulley. Drill a series of 3/16" holes through the plate and into the remaining solid area of the pulley.
3. Mix a large batch of JB Weld and overfill the that broken flange on the bottom of the pulley. Make sure the JB Weld comes out the bottom of the flange and the inner groove of the pulley. Use the material to replace any missing parent metal
4. Once the epoxy begins to set up enough so it won't run. Make an outside retaining band of cardboard and tape. Place the pulley small end down in a disposable pie tin and cure it overnight in a 175-degree oven.
5. Using a coarse file, remove the excess which squeezed through the drilled holes.
6. Place the pulley back on the DP and install the belt in one of the undamaged grooves. (Note - the following operation can be hazardous to your fingers.) With the motor turning the pulley, working on the front of the pulley away from the belt, use a fine file to finish smoothing the inside of the repaired V-groove of any bent parent metal or JB Weld.

It's been running that way for ten years with zero problems. Your results may vary.

jack vines

That's a good idea. So, the holes being drilled through the disc and into the pulley are to JB weld the disc to the pulley?

Also, what is the purpose of the cardboard band?
 

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I just looked on line and there are a lot of 6 spline pulley hubs. I don know what size you need. If you can match the size, maybe you can find some way to attach it to 4 step pulley. Just a thought

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