The VISES of Garage Journal

[PghJKB]

I bought this for 65ish dollars on advice of a member here.
No markings.
The pipe is a machine fit and must have a small key way cut in it that a bolt sits in to keep it from twisting.

It hasn't anyway to mount it except by way of the pipe.

3 1/4"jaws.

Any idea what the deal is?

I'm thinking it must be part of a larger piece of equipment since it requires quite a clamp to hold the pipe in place and the pipe is so long.

I can only imagine it is like a pulling tool, maybe held a tool to work a giant naval part or something.

Up for trade if you need such a thing.

Ducksface
It is not part of a machine, but a "stand alone" vise. It is missing the collar that attached it to the edge of a work table. The post moved up and down within the collar. With the post being round, the vise swiveled. Am fairly sure the collar rotated (like VISEs Nason) as well.

Have the patent somewhere. Am looking, will find. Think Get, CRS or VA has an advertisement for one. It may have include a table as part of the vise.

Saw it on EvilPrey and it piqued my interest. Very interesting, very rough shape.

JKB

 

[bagged89s10]

Question for the group. Meatsis wants to trade me a Baby bullet straight up for an Athol 626. Do I pull the trigger or not?

If you're dying to have a baby bullet, do it. If not, a 5" Athol is worth more in my opinion.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Ducksface and JKB: I did a quick check and that vise could be part of a Champion vise. Champion was made by Bonney Forge and Tool Works of Allentown Pa. Here are two ads from 1919. Champion appears in a 1915 list of vise makers but not a 1911 list. Bonney probably started making Champion vises sometime between those two dates.

Good eyeballing JKB. I didn't recognize it.

 

[PghJKB]

Ducksface and JKB: I did a quick check and that vise could be part of a Champion vise. Champion was made by Bonney Forge and Tool Works of Allentown Pa. Here are two ads from 1919. Champion appears in a 1915 list of vise makers but not a 1911 list. Bonney probably started making Champion vises sometime between those two dates.

Good eyeballing JKB. I didn't recognize it.

CRS
Excellent.

Here is what I think is the patent:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...6S1=0955259.PN.%26OS=pn/955259%26RS=PN/955259

Note that it is a split collar.

And, as always, I reserve the right to be wrong.

JKB

 

[Tom99]

New guy here with a couple vises to show you. I've really enjoyed reading this thread and have learned a lot.

I only have one bench, so it does double duty. Wood vise on the left and metal vise on the right.

The Emmert is the ultimate wood vise, in my opinion. It tilts, swivels, and the jaws skew for tapered work. Mine had a crack in the rear jaw, which I had brazed. Painted it with hammered gray and lined the jaws with 1/4" cork sheet. It really grips wood without a lot of clamping pressure.

001 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

005 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

006 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

008 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

015 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

And here's my Wilton 4" bullet. Just finished it up and mounted it this week. It's hammered gray as well, brushed on.

010 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

012 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

013 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

Thanks for looking.

Tom

 

[Tomthumb717]

Very nice setup you have there Tom and welcome to the thread.

 

[Craptain]

Beautiful Emmert Tom. The Wilton is not too shabby either. Welcome to the thread.

Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk

 

[Tonellin]

That Emmert is amazing!

 

[Scout3918]

Great set up Tom. vise's and Bench both are great.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Tom99: Welcome to this thread. Very handy set up you have with two nice vises. That tool cabinet on the wall looks like it was inspired by Studley. Was that your handiwork? Patternmaker's vises are currently under discussion in the Woodworking 101 thread. Have a look :http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344153&page=85

 

[bluebolt]

Tom99, your first post makes me jealous! Clean, well organized shop with gorgeous vises and bench. Alright, I am going back to work on cleaning my shop!

 

[rusty65]

Picked a Reed 414 1/2 swivel jaw filers vise today. Payed 125 which I thought was fair. The vise is in pretty good shape it's been repainted but overall very serviceable.







Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

 

[joe.striper]

New guy here with a couple vises to show you. I've really enjoyed reading this thread and have learned a lot.

I only have one bench, so it does double duty. Wood vise on the left and metal vise on the right.

The Emmert is the ultimate wood vise, in my opinion. It tilts, swivels, and the jaws skew for tapered work. Mine had a crack in the rear jaw, which I had brazed. Painted it with hammered gray and lined the jaws with 1/4" cork sheet. It really grips wood without a lot of clamping pressure.

001 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

005 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

006 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

008 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

015 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

And here's my Wilton 4" bullet. Just finished it up and mounted it this week. It's hammered gray as well, brushed on.

010 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

012 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

013 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

Thanks for looking.

Tom

That's nice work. I'm restoring a Turtleback Emmert as we speak.

 

[PghJKB]

New guy here with a couple vises to show you. I've really enjoyed reading this thread and have learned a lot.

I only have one bench, so it does double duty. Wood vise on the left and metal vise on the right.

The Emmert is the ultimate wood vise, in my opinion. It tilts, swivels, and the jaws skew for tapered work. Mine had a crack in the rear jaw, which I had brazed. Painted it with hammered gray and lined the jaws with 1/4" cork sheet. It really grips wood without a lot of clamping pressure.

001 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr


And here's my Wilton 4" bullet. Just finished it up and mounted it this week. It's hammered gray as well, brushed on.

010 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

Thanks for looking.

Tom

Tom
If your shop was any cleaner I would swear it was a movie prop.....

JKB

 

[FMC1959]

Picked a Reed 414 1/2 swivel jaw filers vise today. Payed 125 which I thought was fair. The vise is in pretty good shape it's been repainted but overall very serviceable.

Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Very nice and very rare. Maybe there has been the regular 214 or 214 1/2 filers vise and for sure there have been some 224 or 224 1/2 coach makers vise, but I am quite sure that is the only swivel jaw filers vise that has been on this thread.

Nice

 

[FMC1959]

New guy here with a couple vises to show you. I've really enjoyed reading this thread and have learned a lot.

I only have one bench, so it does double duty. Wood vise on the left and metal vise on the right.

The Emmert is the ultimate wood vise, in my opinion. It tilts, swivels, and the jaws skew for tapered work. Mine had a crack in the rear jaw, which I had brazed. Painted it with hammered gray and lined the jaws with 1/4" cork sheet. It really grips wood without a lot of clamping pressure.

001 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

And here's my Wilton 4" bullet. Just finished it up and mounted it this week. It's hammered gray as well, brushed on.

010 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr


Thanks for looking.

Tom

That Wilton is beautiful, looks fresh out of the box....darn, your whole shop looks like you just unwrapped each item.

Welcome and nice setup

 

[bagged89s10]

New guy here with a couple vises to show you. I've really enjoyed reading this thread and have learned a lot.



I only have one bench, so it does double duty. Wood vise on the left and metal vise on the right.



The Emmert is the ultimate wood vise, in my opinion. It tilts, swivels, and the jaws skew for tapered work. Mine had a crack in the rear jaw, which I had brazed. Painted it with hammered gray and lined the jaws with 1/4" cork sheet. It really grips wood without a lot of clamping pressure.



001 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr



005 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr



006 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr



008 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr



015 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr



And here's my Wilton 4" bullet. Just finished it up and mounted it this week. It's hammered gray as well, brushed on.



010 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr



012 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr



013 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr



Thanks for looking.



Tom

Welcome to Garage Journal. You have a sweet setup there! I really like your bench.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Not sure if this has been on here yet, but here's a chicom biting the dust at 53 seconds in.

 

[kwoswalt99]

Not sure if this has been on here yet, but here's a chicom biting the dust at 53 seconds in.

Only three times previously.

 

[va.grouseman]

The sad thing is, I've seen vises destroyed, "not quite that bad", but rendered worthless none-the-less, unintentional and without the aid of a 100 ton press.

 

[MissileBear]

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/6034165563.html

A deal, I think?

 

[va.grouseman]

That's a Bugatti Wilton.---That's really cheap.

 

[G-ManBart]

New guy here with a couple vises to show you. I've really enjoyed reading this thread and have learned a lot.

Welcome....well done!

 

[jakemac]

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/6034165563.html

A deal, I think?

I'd pay 10,500¢ In cash for it.

 

[ftb]

Can anyone share their opinion on Chas Parker vises? I came across one, 6" and in good overall condition. I already have a vise but at $30 I might get it. Or shall I wait for something better? Parker is a 6 hours return journey.

Thanks.

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Do you have a picture or model number you can post. Some people will list the opening lenght and not the jaw width. Any Parker with 6" wide jaws would be a steal @ $30.
A six hour trip, I would make sure of what I was going to pick up.

 

[ftb]

It's one of those:

 

[GETRIDAONE]

That looks in great shape, another $50 in gas and you only have $80 in it. I use the swivel version (976) every day. The road trip and low price will make a great vise story

Ftb, I didn't catch where the photo came from at first glance. Parker's have unique jaws and are very expensive to replace if damaged or worn. I would question the seller about the condition of the vise you are getting for $30. Smooth operation, rust, cracked or broken parts, front retaining collar intact, etc. The photo is a vise on Kevin Scott's website and not the one you are asking about obviously.

 

[ftb]

That looks in great shape, another $50 in gas and you only have $80 in it. I use the swivel version (976) every day. The road trip and low price will make a great vise story

Ftb, I didn't catch where the photo came from at first glance. Parker's have unique jaws and are very expensive to replace if damaged or worn. I would question the seller about the condition of the vise you are getting for $30. Smooth operation, rust, cracked or broken parts, front retaining collar intact, etc. The photo is a vise on Kevin Scott's website and not the one you are asking about obviously.

You are right. Which is why I said 'one of those'. The condition of the one I'm thinking of buying is much better as it has had very little use over the years. The jaws and the vise itself are about 8 out of 10.

 

[wrenchguy]

make sure the slide support any't cracked, its kinda under there and missed because of the vise excitement/drooling going on. been there done that.

 

[MissileBear]

I dunno what these guys in Buffalo are smoking lately...

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/6033509345.html

 

[sonoronos]

yeah, sometimes you cant see any cracks in the slide support through all the sh** on the vise.

best way i have found to check is to open up the vise about 3 inches and vigorously pull up and down on the dynamic jaw. if there is significant play, then take some brake cleaner and spray down where the slide support meets the base and look for the crack.

just dont be emotionally set on buying anything.

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

 

[Tom99]

Tom99: Welcome to this thread. Very handy set up you have with two nice vises. That tool cabinet on the wall looks like it was inspired by Studley. Was that your handiwork? Patternmaker's vises are currently under discussion in the Woodworking 101 thread. Have a look :http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344153&page=85

Thanks for the nice words, everyone. The bench is usually a mess! Just cleaned it up for the pictures.

CRSINMICH: Here are a couple more pics of the cabinet. It's certainly not in the same league as Studley, but it was definitely a fun project to make.

007 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

009 by Thomas Rausenberg, on Flickr

 

[CRSINMICH]

Tom: Wow! Just WOW! Did you use hand tools or a combination of hand and power tools. You have nice hand tools to put in that cabinet. A recent topic on Woodworking 101 was Stanley No. 80s. Please post your woodworking stuff there starting with that cabinet. Here's the link again: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344153&page=86

 

[Scout3918]

Tom: awesome work and set up

 

[FMC1959]

Picked up a couple more Colton pattern vises to add to the family shown earlier http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6012458&highlight=Colton#post6012458
Found a 1-1/2" jaw clamp mount (not pictured) and this 2-1/2" jaw clamp mount, both on Ebay. I was surprised how big the 2-1/2" is, was expecting something smaller. Need to find a 2", there's one on CL about an hour away from me, but the $30. price seems a little steep considering it has a chipped jaw and chipped anvil. Does anyone know it they made any larger than the 2-1/2"?

454, the "clamp vise with anvil" on the upper right corner of this brochure, no name listed, would you say these are Colton models?

 

[Shiftless]

FTB:
A Parker 956 in useable condition for $30 seems unbelievable. I had one last year that was pretty good but needed a new handle. I sold it to a knowledgable fellow GJ member for almost ten times that price.

Tom:
Another welcome from me too. Fantastic job on that cabinet. Is the rest of your shop so clean and neatly organized now? Mine certainly isn't!

Misslebear:
I have a decent Wilton 350 that I would be happy to sell for 5% of that price.

 

[454ragtop]

454, the "clamp vise with anvil" on the upper right corner of this brochure, no name listed, would you say these are Colton models?

FMC, thanks for posting that catalog page, awesome. On first look, I thought it looked like a Colton, but didn't remember the base above the clamp screw having that detail on the edge and the hole in the back under the dynamic jaw. But I just ran out to my shop, and that's EXACTLY what the Coltons look like. So I think you nailed it. Now I'm wondering if the other little clamp on I posted a few months ago is a Champion like the one on the top left, general consensus at the time was it was an Erie.
Thanks again, Jim.

Oh, and by the way, I really need one of those Lightning Grip vises and a Stephens..............

 

[DakotaMan]

What vise would you guys recommend in the $100 range? I'd mainly be using it to hold something that either I'm grinding off, cutting off, etc. I will be mounting it to a piece of wood that's 1.5" thick.

 

[Shiftless]

What vise would you guys recommend in the $100 range? I'd mainly be using it to hold something that either I'm grinding off, cutting off, etc. I will be mounting it to a piece of wood that's 1.5" thick.

Are you mounting it to a scrap of 2 by?
And planning to then clamp it to your work bench?
How big of a piece of something do you plan to work on?
More details please.