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Andy: i quit using Photobucket years ago. they were great when they first started and then it seemed like everytime they made a change it was harder to use and less reliable. i would have gladly paid for their FREE SERVICE when they first started, but when they changed for the worse (in my experience anyway) and then wanted money too i decided to just download pictures to my laptop and straight on to GJ so they won't disappear when PB or another online company stops working or if i changed companies and quit paying them all the pictures disappear on threads and they are what really help to describe some things so threads lose their value.

anyway i hope you figure it out and even though your pictures won't be as big without the links my pictures show up full size by clicking on the thumbnail 2 or 3 times and i think maybe a bit easier to read too with the small pictures. your call cause of course it's your thread. i do enjoy your pictures and descriptions or Where's Waldo sort of finding what you are talking about too.

how maybe baby calves are you up to now 8 or 9? any more coming? do you neuter or spay or whatever it's called to all the new boys so you still only have one bull? is there too much fighting going on if you have more than one bull with all his parts in the field?

cheers and have a great SATURDAY and remember to rest up tomorrow on SUNDAY for all those upcoming Saturdays next week.
 
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I missed pouring aluminum on Thursday. It just about killed me.

But Thursday morning this little guy walked up to me on her second day of life. She was curious and I backed away as she got close. That gave her confidence.

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And here's the mottle faced baby who is a couple of days older. Like momma like daughter.

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Did find time to cut sprues off another sheave

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Started cutting an aluminum wheel apart. The plasma cutter works, but slowly because it is a little thick.

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And started tearing down a neighbor's tractor. Hydraulic system won't work so it's coming apart for a look. Likely the relief valve has developed a leak. We'll look around inside and replace the $25 relief valve, put it back together and see if the pressures are better. Pictures at 11:00.

Started a pattern for a wrench. May just make one in brass too!

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So yesterday in desperation I picked up the little bracket I had made a pattern for earlier.

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Riddled some sand over it

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It's painted green now. Flipped the drag over and put the other half of the pattern in the cope.

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After packing sand in the cope off it comes. The dowels fit too tight and the drag half of the pattern came out with the cope. That dropped a little sand into the drag which had to be cleaned out.

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Cut two gates, sprue, and two risers in the cope and it is ready to pour.

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Pour looked ok

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And it looked like metal got into all the right places

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I think my riser base was too narrow. A little shrinkage on one side. But it will be against the wall.

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Drag side is on the right. You can see a little loose sand around the curve, and some cavities where sand fell out with the premature withdrawal of the pattern.

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It will get cleaned up and used.

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I feel fortunate I have not yet had a pattern cavity fail to fill. This pattern was thin and I was not going to be disappointed if it failed to fill. Now I have to make it's mate for a shelf.

Thanks for stopping in!:thumbup:
 
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My son arrived at midnight last night with his son and a friend. They had been to a concert and came here for Saturday (their only Saturday)

We toured the shop, heated some metal in the forge, pounded on the anvil, lit the furnace and melted some cans. Then we took three cars to town to wash and have lunch. Forgot to take pictures at the diner, but we lined them up facing the street. So on the way home we stopped in front of the old bank building in Terlton. The teenagers chose the Chevelle to drive, my son drove the purple car and I drove the blue car. I just can't pick a favorite.

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I sure enjoyed watching the cars in the rear view mirror. Can't seem to remember to take pictures. The boys had a blast. I had to keep encouraging them to get on it a little. They kept it on the road which was the number one criterium. My son likes the purple car, his wife loves it, so it's going to live with them and give me some room.

Then we loaded up and took guns and targets down to the bottom to target practice. Me and the boys took the Show Truck. (I'm tipping my hat, not hiding my face)

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Found an old cow skull, my CPA's daughter wants one to paint.

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We shot a lot of 7.62x39, 9mm, 357 magnum, 40 S&W, 5.45x39, and some 22, 44 magnum (Super Blackhawk with 12" barrel) and 32. We all had a good time shooting. The boys promised to forward some pictures to me but they haven't yet. It was a great day.

They left and I'm resting!

Thanks for stopping in and sharing my day!!:thumbup::thumbup:
 
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That is one helluva good day Andy. I am impressed at how much you can fit into one Saturday.

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Thanks for the nice words. I screwed up on my day's activities. I forgot to mention I made half a broom for the boys to watch, and started turning a sheave so they could see the lathe work. They were both interested and attentive for 16 year olds, especially knowing there was a hot rod ride coming up. Kind of like expecting a 5 year old to each at Mickey D's before playing in the playground.
 

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ANDY: looks like you were very busy on your REAL SATURDAY. loving all the foundry projects and it's getting me even more interested in finding a nice little or medium size metal lathe.

the grandsons and the car pictures and stories are priceless and good for you teaching them a few skills like foundry, shooting and driving cars that go 150 mph.

best of luck with the neighbor's issue too.

you deserve a rest day so good thing it's SUNDAY, but i have a feeling you'll be doing something in the foundry so i'll stay tuned.

cheers
 

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After following you around for the day, I'm exhausted. I need to go lay down.

That's a new one for me. I've never heard the "mottled faced" before. Guess that's cause I'm not a cowpoke. Nice looking little guy though.

I can only assume the skull was not from your herd. I'm curious as to why she would want to paint it.
 

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Love the cow shots. Poor little Mottle Face--it will never be able to "blend into the herd".

And kudos to your son. He was raised right. It shows his outstanding character that he stepped right up and did not hesitate to help you out by storing the car at his place. :rocker:
 

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I went back a few pages, but must have missed it. What are your wheels for? Its funny, but I have learned more about foundry work than I ever did back in school. very neat stuff!
 

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MP: Andy is most likely planning on melting them so he either needs to make a bigger pot or keep cutting them up to fit in the pot he melt the aluminum cans in. I think that's it.

JIM: I love reading your posts on Andy's thread cause he seems to bring the TIM ALLEN out of you for stating the obvious and being damn funny. :D

ANDY: while i'm posting on your thread helping other members did you mention which car of yours is the quickest yet or is the Show car the fastest? since the land is maybe pretty flat in Oklahoma have you pegged out one of them and curious what that # was?

cheers and keep keeping those cows happy (and us too).
 
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ANDY: looks like you were very busy on your REAL SATURDAY. loving all the foundry projects and it's getting me even more interested in finding a nice little or medium size metal lathe.

Thanks! A little lathe is invaluable. So many repairs you can easily make.


the grandsons and the car pictures and stories are priceless and good for you teaching them a few skills like foundry, shooting and driving cars that go 150 mph.

It was just a really good day, and a great temperature to boot!


best of luck with the neighbor's issue too.

you deserve a rest day so good thing it's SUNDAY, but i have a feeling you'll be doing something in the foundry so i'll stay tuned.

cheers

Didn't do much today!

After following you around for the day, I'm exhausted. I need to go lay down.

I was so busy I didn't even see you, sorry!


That's a new one for me. I've never heard the "mottled faced" before. Guess that's cause I'm not a cowpoke. Nice looking little guy though.

I can only assume the skull was not from your herd. I'm curious as to why she would want to paint it.

I can only assume it was from my herd. Since it is only my cattle on my place. We do have an old one die now and then. And we leave them lay and let the coyotes and other animals have them.

Painting cow skulls, especially those with horns is a western art thing.


Love the cow shots. Poor little Mottle Face--it will never be able to "blend into the herd".

And kudos to your son. He was raised right. It shows his outstanding character that he stepped right up and did not hesitate to help you out by storing the car at his place. :rocker:

Had a friend tell me years ago to always keep a baldy (white face) in the herd. When they're standing in the trees that white face is like a beacon looking at you. Makes the herd easier to find. Mottle face not as much, but you can still see them easier.

However, I give them no mirrors. They do not know what their own face looks like. So she thinks she fits in. But her momma is a little odd.

My son has already proven his heritage. He is already storing my 1964-1/2 Mustang for me. And he takes good care of it.


I went back a few pages, but must have missed it. What are your wheels for? Its funny, but I have learned more about foundry work than I ever did back in school. very neat stuff!

I learned nothing about foundry work in school.:( The cast aluminum wheels have some of the better alloys for recasting. This one was bent and cracked so it's a good candidate to cut up and melt. I'm having a blast from the past when I cast at last.

MP: Andy is most likely planning on melting them so he either needs to make a bigger pot or keep cutting them up to fit in the pot he melt the aluminum cans in. I think that's it.

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JIM: I love reading your posts on Andy's thread cause he seems to bring the TIM ALLEN out of you for stating the obvious and being damn funny. :D

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ANDY: while i'm posting on your thread helping other members did you mention which car of yours is the quickest yet or is the Show car the fastest? since the land is maybe pretty flat in Oklahoma have you pegged out one of them and curious what that # was?

cheers and keep keeping those cows happy (and us too).

How dare you think I would consider exceeding the legal speed limit in an antique car! The Chevelle has a 4.10 axle which limits it's top speed. But it is pretty quick getting there. The purple car may be quicker, however. It is very peppy. But the brakes are bad, you have to pump them to keep the pedal off the floor, so I haven't has it over about 70. And it is a little hard to steer. Just like in the song, by the way. I've had the blue car to 110 with my wife dozing beside me. It was willing to do more but I started thinking about blowing a tire and rolling it down the median. My level of maturity is not very great but I did back off and did not have an opportunity to be cited for my driving acumen. I was outrunning a BMW whose level of maturity was
apparently a bit above mine. On Saturday my son drove the yellow car home from the last stop. Put the boys in the blue car because it has good brakes. I was leading in the purple car and waved my son around about 50 on a straight section where I own both sides of the road (no opportunity for a surprise from a driveway) and he hammered it. I nailed the purple car too but he sailed right around me and the roar from that 454 winding up was tremendous.:rocker::rocker: You don't really mind being passed by your own car, by the way. (We had left the boys around a curve so they did not have to witness immaturity of their elders)
 
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Got a few shots from my grandson of his perspective on Saturday. They both liked the AK-47.

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Dad was busy reloading, but he shot plenty.

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I let the kids drive a 454 Chevelle and a 1937 street rod on the public streets but I drew the line on driving my Show Truck through the pasture.

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Still, they enjoyed the ride. They both asked about seat belts as I was chuckling.

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Thanks for sharing my joy!
 
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Remember the "Got Milk? campaign? I was chasing the cows out of the pen and this young lady was enjoying a breakfast of warm milk. She does not have a white muzzle, that's a milk mustache.

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Got the neighbor's tractor apart.

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Looks OK inside, a little rust from sitting.

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Here's the bottom of the top plate

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I'm liking foundry work so much I broke down and hired help. My handyman got the barn house finished so I broke my own rule and hired him to help around the shop. We're going to put a ceiling in the main shop room. When I move stuff around it takes forever to reminisce and look at them. He has no attachment to the junk. He got 30 ft of wall cleaned out today, assembled my scaffold, and installed two lights in the mezzanine, and replaced two lights with bad ballasts in the machine shop. A good day.

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I see I have one light that did not come on. More work!

Putting 16 ft metal on the ceiling I knew I needed help. So instead of him helping me, I'll be helping him. I plan to stay on the foundry while he gets things ready in the shop.

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There was a LOT of junk in there. He knows not to throw anything away.

While he was doing that I mixed some water glass with sand and packed it into the plaster of paris mold I made.

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I fumed it with CO2 in a trash can by dropping baking soda into vinegar. That fuses the sand.

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And makes a core to put in the mold cavity, in this case, it will leave a hole in a sheave casting. It is hard and brittle and will withstand the hot metal flowing around it. But when the metal cools and shrinks, it pulverizes the core so it iwll shake out. The hole is to help with shrinkage. Since it will be a bit offcenter it will have to be bored not drilled.

I finished baking my plinth. It is ready to fire now and be used under my crucible.

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My son brought an oven from a charity sale at his church. Priced at $100 I'm going to use it for general low temperature (up to 500F) dryout. Looks like new.

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It needs a stand and may get a flat top for FSD.

I'm done posting now.
 
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I wish you lived closer to me. My cousin who I partner with on a few things and I salvaged the cabinets and granite counter tops out of a house that is being demolished last week. There were 2 pieces of granite that would make a great flat surface for you to get a FSD fix on.
 
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New Staff Indoctrination Rules

1. Ignore the thread title--no cleaning.
2. Don't step on the "pies"
3. Don't eat the "muffins"

Congrats on getting a helper. We are all green with envy. And the first thing I thought when I saw the stove was, "Hmm. Andy is gonna need a top for that thing." The second thing I thought of was real muffins baking in the shop. :pimpflash
 
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Beautiful cars! Good stay, you had a great time.:thumbup:

Thank you! Great to have you visit, is it warming up at home? I couldn't tell if you'd posted old pictures or if spring had arrived.

Andy, following right along..:thumbup::thumbup:

Thank you sir! I hope you haven't had to moderate my thread...

I wish you lived closer to me. My cousin who I partner with on a few things and I salvaged the cabinets and granite counter tops out of a house that is being demolished last week. There were 2 pieces of granite that would make a great flat surface for you to get a FSD fix on.

Junk granite: now that's a dream come true! I thought it was supposed to last a lifetime. :dunno: I wish you lived closer to me:lol:

New Staff Indoctrination Rules

1. Ignore the thread title--no cleaning.
2. Don't step on the "pies"
3. Don't eat the "muffins"

Congrats on getting a helper. We are all green with envy. And the first thing I thought when I saw the stove was, "Hmm. Andy is gonna need a top for that thing." The second thing I thought of was real muffins baking in the shop. :pimpflash

1. We're cleaning, we're cleaning, we're cleaning (you know if you say it enough it becomes true)
2. Don't step on the meadow muffins either.
3. The foundry furnace would get angry if you ate any of her muffins.

I feel like such a ***** for hiring help. He is a good guy and very versatile. One of the guys you can just point and be happy with whatever he does. His dad used to work for me, a violin repairman in retirement with major OCD issues. The son did not inherit the defective gene but recognizes it in me and humors me. When he was hanging lights yesterday I met him going up the stairs with a board. It had four deck screws in it from forming the curb in the new Skelly Garage. He said "I know you want me to use up these screws before I get some out of the box".:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

But he also makes fun of me. Found two new boxes of Craftsman screwdrivers. "Bet you forgot about these". Liar, he knows I like to keep new unopened boxes of tools. It makes me feel wealthy.:willy_nil

A word on the oven. I resist cooking industrial stuff in the kitchen oven for fear of fumes and leftover noxious substances. In the same way I won't be cooking pizza in an oven that has cured refractory. Just my little fetish.

is that a massey 135?

I think it is, either that or a 235. I don't know much about them.

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Never had one myself. Although I think I own a 265 on propane. I loaned it out years ago to two boys to repair and haven't heard from them. It came with some land I bought.

Thanks for the visits, guys!

I appreciate each and every comment.:bowdown:
 
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Andy: i just realized why i own several tools that i've yet to open the box years later. IT MAKES ME FEEL WEALTHY!!


thanks for curing my thinking so i don't have to pay a shrink to tell me that. :beer:

GREAT SAFETY TIP NOT COOKING FOOD IN THE SAME OVEN YOU BAKE YOUR PAINT AND INDUSTRIAL STUFF IN AND ON. :thumbup:

this pole barn in the last few pictures looks almost new. i thought i read somewhere in your thread about another new building or is this just another part of your existing building. LOOKS PRETTY CLEAN TO ME and you can actually walk in there. :dunno:

as far as you not THINKING when driving a bit faster than the speed limit i think knowing that you own the property on both sides of the road so you don't hit anybody coming out of a driveway onto the road is pretty damn responsible. while i might have broken the speed limit a time or two i usually did my fastest stuff on wide open freeways and the little dips in the desert were kinda fun when i went airborn.

cheers and have a great SATURDAY and I'll do the same!!
 

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My son brought an oven from a charity sale at his church. Priced at $100 I'm going to use it for general low temperature (up to 500F) dryout. Looks like new.

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It needs a stand and may get a flat top for FSD.
Andy, I have been AWOL for a few days and just catching up.

I believe an oven like that means you need to learn how to powder coat your stuff, especially your aluminum castings. If you were to powder coat the starter mechanism on the show truck you wouldn't need to replace the boot -- the judges wouldn't notice the tear if it was surrounded by a beautiful powder-coated mechanism.
 

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Andy, on a serious note, I read a story about the horrendous grass and brush fires burning in the Midwest. These are HUGE fires, burning square miles, not acres. Bigger than last year, which I understand was record-setting. I was shocked to learn about it in The New York Times but maybe it has hit the national news and it's my fault for not paying attention to TV news anymore.

This is serious stuff. Farmers are losing livestock, barns, homes and fences. It never occurred to me wooden posts would also burn and no longer hold up the barbed wire. One rancher has lost $2 million in fences that aren't insured. This is serious stuff and I haven't heard of anyone caring.

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Wildfires continue to burn north of Hutchinson, Kan., Tuesday, March 7, 2017. Crews grappling with vexing wildfires that have charred hundreds of square miles of land in four states and killed multiple people soon may get a bit of a break: Winds are forecast to ease from the gusts that whipped the flames. (Travis Morisse/The Hutchinson News via AP) A two-county wildfire in Kansas has consumed an estimated 861 square miles of land, eclipsing last year's record for the biggest single blaze in the state's recorded history. Kansas Division of Emergency Management spokeswoman Katie Horner says the estimated 625 square miles charred in Clark County as of Wednesday is about 85 percent of that county's total land, with an additional 236 square miles lost in Comanche County. Horner tells The Associated Press that that number in the two predominantly ranching-and-farming counties appears certain to grow. The previous record for the most-widespread Kansas blaze came last year, with the Anderson Creek fire in Barber and Comanche counties consuming 488 square miles of land.

Horner says that since last Saturday, large grassfires have been reported in 23 Kansas counties, consuming more than 1,000 square miles. At least 70 structures in Kansas have been damaged or destroyed.

In addition, three wildfires in the Texas Panhandle have burned nearly 750 square miles of rural land, while more than 540 square miles of property has been blackened in Oklahoma. Dozens of square miles also have been charred in northeastern Colorado.
 
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Andy: i just realized why i own several tools that i've yet to open the box years later. IT MAKES ME FEEL WEALTHY!!

:lol_hitti

thanks for curing my thinking so i don't have to pay a shrink to tell me that. :beer:

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti

GREAT SAFETY TIP NOT COOKING FOOD IN THE SAME OVEN YOU BAKE YOUR PAINT AND INDUSTRIAL STUFF IN AND ON. :thumbup:

I've seen people do it but it makes me uncomfortable.

this pole barn in the last few pictures looks almost new. i thought i read somewhere in your thread about another new building or is this just another part of your existing building. LOOKS PRETTY CLEAN TO ME and you can actually walk in there. :dunno:

It's the same old barn. The floor lift where the Chevelle was for so long is just to the right of the scaffold.


as far as you not THINKING when driving a bit faster than the speed limit i think knowing that you own the property on both sides of the road so you don't hit anybody coming out of a driveway onto the road is pretty damn responsible. while i might have broken the speed limit a time or two i usually did my fastest stuff on wide open freeways and the little dips in the desert were kinda fun when i went airborn.

I've driven across the desert, and was always looking for debris in the wadis after I ran upon a spare tire laying in one:scared:


cheers and have a great SATURDAY and I'll do the same!!

Had a great Saturday!!

Andy, I have been AWOL for a few days and just catching up.

I believe an oven like that means you need to learn how to powder coat your stuff, especially your aluminum castings. If you were to powder coat the starter mechanism on the show truck you wouldn't need to replace the boot -- the judges wouldn't notice the tear if it was surrounded by a beautiful powder-coated mechanism.

Hmmm... I never thought of that!! Wonderful idea!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
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I just can't seem to get much done anymore. I try but Saturday comes and goes and I only get a fraction done of what I wanted to do.

When my Son in Law was feeding the cattle he stored feed in an 8x10 building at his house. We're still using it. It gets pretty full in December when I buy feed to last through March and into April. It's looking like I won't have to feed much longer!

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Three stacks on the right are 39% and the herd gets one bag per day. Four bags left today. I have 21 days left until April 10, my normal last day and looks like I'll have nine extra. In extreme weather I sometimes feed in the evening too but that didn't happen this year. Especially when it rains and they are wet then it is going to freeze overnight they need extra feed in the evening to help with the chills. They are well insulated when it gets cold and stays cold but get extra feed if its very windy and cold. The bags on the left are 20% the five heifers and old cow in the pen are getting, half a bag per day. I wasn't planning on keeping the old cow up but the others weren't letting her eat and she is doing much better in with the heifers. They can eat 39% if need be. Not that anybody asked.:willy_nil

Saw bermudagrass putting on runners in front of the barn.

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It has to be above 60F for four to six hours before it will start growing. A dip below 60 sets it back. Very productive forage but is takes a lot of water (we're dry) so the native grasses (blue stem primarily) takes up the slack in poor years.

That's the Saturday Farm Report.

Don't forget, if you eat, you are involved in agriculture.

Made some sand cores today. Fine sand mixed with sodium silicate (4% of 40% Na-Si). Here is a plastic tube I ripped in the band saw then taped back together. Drop in sand and rod it tight.

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Then lay it in an ice cream bucket with leftover baking soda in a cup. Pour in a little vinegar and it boils CO2 and leaves water behind. Put the lid on loosely and the sand will harden right into the middle of the tube.

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It's really easy, surprisingly. I made three but no pictures :(

Then went ahead and finished the sheave with the relief cast into each side.

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I'm seeing no bubbles and no internal defects. Nice:thumbup:

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Also made a wooden sprue, well at it's bottom, runners (walnut) and gates (plywood). The book I've been reading gave some guidelines for sizing and it's different than what I've been doing. Interesting to see whether the right sizes will make a difference.

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More to come, thanks for stopping in!
 
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The wildfires are serious.

Good news/bad news. If you lose $2 million in fences you have a lot of land. A lot. If you value it at $2 per foot that a million feet or 190 miles and could be 7,600 acres. At $2,000 per acre it's a $15 million enterprise. Not that I don't sympathize, but it is big business.

Farmers are donating hay and donating cattle for charity sales where the proceeds are going to assist burnouts. This is taking place all over the west.

Now, on the positive side, this is the right time of year to burn native pasture to get rid of weeds and put nitrogen into the soil. It will be very green with a bit of rain in a few weeks. The land is not destroyed and native grass is not harmed. However forage is lost and ranchers may have to liquidate herds if they don't have alternate ranches. The big guys typically have ranches in Wyoming or Montana as well as Oklahoma and Texas.

Ranching is a business. Liquidating assets is always an option. It's not like selling the kids, even though you might like to keep the blood line you've worked for a generation or several generations to develop. Each rancher understands this and is aware of the risks. The fires are unusual, a multi year drought which decimates the pasture is not unusual. Each business plan has to consider the options for loss of forage.

You will also see some moderation of beef prices at the supermarket if widespread herd liquidation takes place. Then of course prices will swing up as a smaller national herd won't support consumption.

Farming is stressful.

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Patterns have to have a 2 degree slope (draft) to facilitate removal from the packed green sand. I've been looking for a 2 degree taper router bit to assist in making curved shapes. Couldn't find one. Probably I don't know the right terminology. Regardless I need one so I made one today. Started with a 1" shaft and turned it down to 7/8".

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Cut an arbor to 1/2" (0.5005)

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Reversed it and faced it off and center drilled.

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Chucked it up on the arbor and turned a 2 degree taper.

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Filed it smooth and it looks OK.

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Put it in my rotary table on the mill. I have a drill chuck which fits the rotary table. I also have a four jaw chuck I should have used but this was quicker and I thought it would work. Checked the drill chuck runout, it was about 0.003" offcenter. Hi to low was about 0.005". That's good enough for a woodworking tool.

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I also have a tailstock and could have supported the end of the shaft with a live center, but felt I could cantilever it. I cut a square slot 0.050" offcenter to get a sharp corner to cut with.

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I also could have mounted my rotary table looking up 2 degrees so the slot would be parallel with the surface, but did not think that was worth the trouble. So the cut is deeper at the wide end.

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Took three cuts of 0.030" and one of 0.010" to get the depth I wanted. Then indexed it 60 degrees and did it again. Rotary table sure is nice. It's smallest division is 10 seconds.

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Dressed the burrs off

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And I think I have a tool.

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There is no lead behind the cutting edges however wood compresses and cuts easily, and this is just a reamer. Primarily to taper holes so the sand will come out. I do not plan to use it in a router, just a drill press so the speed will be slow.

Thanks for stopping by. I hope I can melt some metal tomorrow!! But maybe not, I plan to take a short trip to look for more cast aluminum.
 
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Yes, it's just fantastic!!!:bowdown:
You have done well. The rotary table is a very useful thing :thumbup:
 

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Well done one the tapered bit Andy! Speaking of wildfires while driving back from central Mo. this weekend I saw 5 active fires, most were small an acre or two, but one was a couple of sections (1,280 acres) and still going. Last years Anderson Creek fire in Kansas was about 120 miles away as the crow flies and we had a thick smoke here in town!
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You do some fantastic work Andy.

Thank you! Not ground cutting edges but we'll see how it cuts after I heat treat it.

Yes, it's just fantastic!!!:bowdown:
You have done well. The rotary table is a very useful thing :thumbup:

Thank you! The rotary table does add a lot of versatility to the shop. Even cutting two flats 90 degrees apart is a breeze. I don't really know how to use it, just scratch the surface, but it can be used for cutting gears, etc. and accurately placing holes in a circle. For instance, the pressure plate on my 48 Chevrolet truck is about obsolete. I can get a cheaper one that will do as well but different bolt circle (it's for a car and was sent to me first) so next time I plan to redrill the bolt circle in the flywheel and make the cheaper, more available automobile pressure plate fit. I don't need the load capacity of a truck pressure plate in the show truck.

As above...endorsed..:thumbup:

Thanks guys. I was very pleased with how the cutter turned out. Now if I can just get it heat treated without damaging it I'll be happy.

I need to make a 1/8" bead cutter next, for flush cuts. Can only seem to ones that are too long to fit where I need to go.

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Well done one the tapered bit Andy! Speaking of wildfires while driving back from central Mo. this weekend I saw 5 active fires, most were small an acre or two, but one was a couple of sections (1,280 acres) and still going. Last years Anderson Creek fire in Kansas was about 120 miles away as the crow flies and we had a thick smoke here in town!
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Thanks JB!

We have escaped nearby fires this year. I'm guessing none you saw were controlled burns although we don't have a burn ban in effect right now so Easter Kansas could be burning intentionally.
 

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Thank you! Not ground cutting edges but we'll see how it cuts after I heat treat it.







Thank you! The rotary table does add a lot of versatility to the shop. Even cutting two flats 90 degrees apart is a breeze. I don't really know how to use it, just scratch the surface, but it can be used for cutting gears, etc. and accurately placing holes in a circle. For instance, the pressure plate on my 48 Chevrolet truck is about obsolete. I can get a cheaper one that will do as well but different bolt circle (it's for a car and was sent to me first) so next time I plan to redrill the bolt circle in the flywheel and make the cheaper, more available automobile pressure plate fit. I don't need the load capacity of a truck pressure plate in the show truck.







Thanks guys. I was very pleased with how the cutter turned out. Now if I can just get it heat treated without damaging it I'll be happy.



I need to make a 1/8" bead cutter next, for flush cuts. Can only seem to ones that are too long to fit where I need to go.



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Really looking forward to the heat treatment.

I heat treat my homemade knives in a mini forge with a propane burner. Most of my knives are 01 (local equivalent) tool steel and quenched in old motor oil.

I do always loose a bit of the fine edge and have to post cleanup and sharpen.

Curious as to how that will work with a cutter where once hardened post sharpening will be harder.

Or perhaps it's simply my rather unsophisticated heat treatment technique and lack of fine temp control that causes the edge loss.

I will have pen and paper handy and take notes when you get there.

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Last nite and yesterday was a perfect day for burning, had just a little wind. My neighbor to the south of me burned part of his pasture, if I'd had a couple of guys I would of burned my pasture. I'm afraid all the bugs are going to be nasty this year because of the warm winter, burning helps a little with the ticks and fleas.
What do you do with your empty feed bags? I noticed a lot of ranchers/farmers seem to keep them in stacks? I bought a old VW bus and it was used for storage, it must of had 200 empty bags of seed stacked from the floor to the top.
 

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Andy, Must say that I am really into agriculture. I do like to eat and the food does not start out in a canning factory.

A good farmer is a good business man and knows better than to bet the farm with their decisions. It would be good if more business men understood how a small farmer manages their business.

Making your own tools - great. You have surely added to the work you can do on you own projects.

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Really looking forward to the heat treatment.

I heat treat my homemade knives in a mini forge with a propane burner. Most of my knives are 01 (local equivalent) tool steel and quenched in old motor oil.

I do always loose a bit of the fine edge and have to post cleanup and sharpen.

Curious as to how that will work with a cutter where once hardened post sharpening will be harder.

Or perhaps it's simply my rather unsophisticated heat treatment technique and lack of fine temp control that causes the edge loss.

I will have pen and paper handy and take notes when you get there.

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:lol_hitti:lol_hitti I laughed and laughed. You're going to listen to me on heat treatment? :willy_nil:willy_nil I use water :eyecrazy::eyecrazy::eyecrazy: on unknown steel:dunno::dunno::dunno:

Whew! Got to get a grip here. OK, O1 is oil quench, but you just can't heat a sharp edge to red and lose some metal to mill scale and not lose the edge. Better to leave the edge a bit blunt then sharpen and hone after treating. Even with oil you can initiate some fine cracks when you quench a very sharp edge.

How do you temper?

Is you edge fine after sharpening?

Do you test?

I like to forge cutting tools out of sucker rod (connects the pump jack on the surface with the downhole pump. Good steel, alloys all over the map. If I'm making a knife I forge down a small section and heat treat it. Then I bend it to failure in a vice and inspect it. I've done this several times with a water quench on a 1/8" by 3/8" piece of sucker rod. I get a 30 to 45 degree bend before it snaps and there are fine cracks all over the surface. Hard surface and relatively tough underneath. Good enough for lots of tools.

Do some kind of test on your process to confirm how you like it.

We won't know how I did until tomorrow when I cut some wood with the cutter. However the cutting edge is almost 90 degrees so losing a bit of surface metal will make it sharper.

Last nite and yesterday was a perfect day for burning, had just a little wind. My neighbor to the south of me burned part of his pasture, if I'd had a couple of guys I would of burned my pasture. I'm afraid all the bugs are going to be nasty this year because of the warm winter, burning helps a little with the ticks and fleas.
What do you do with your empty feed bags? I noticed a lot of ranchers/farmers seem to keep them in stacks? I bought a old VW bus and it was used for storage, it must of had 200 empty bags of seed stacked from the floor to the top.

We've got too many neighbors to burn. I have the SE 1/4 of a square mile. My neighbor has the NE 1/4 of the same square mile. The west half has been sold off. About ten years ago one of his neighbors just west of his NW corner let a trash fire get out. We had a light south wind so I drove over to the place to ask the fire department to let it burn. My neighbor was there telling the fire department to back off. When the lady who started the fire found out who we were she started apologizing to us both. We were trying to tell her if they would let it burn far enough south we would light the south end of my place and let it rip north clearing out underbrush and roasting ticks. The fire department was having too much fun saving the world to listen to us and the kind lady could never grasp that years ago we used to burn the square mile when there were only three owners and wanted to burn again. We've not burned since then. Tried one time and so many neighbors came running to help and couldn't understand that we have given up.

You can't have my feed sacks.

The feed mill I use (Stockman's in Pawnee, if you can't figure it out) used to give me $0.25 per sack discount if they refill a used sack. Lot's of guys have their sacks refilled. I shoot for six times, four rows of holes on each end and they are worn out. Usually after five times. You can make big bucks if you are careful to not tear up tattered sacks. I only have 39% resacked. I buy everything else in new sacks so they have a label stitched on them. Then those get used for 39%. It's hard for me to part with the old sack friends just because they are worn out. Like me.

Andy, Must say that I am really into agriculture. I do like to eat and the food does not start out in a canning factory.

A good farmer is a good business man and knows better than to bet the farm with their decisions. It would be good if more business men understood how a small farmer manages their business.

Making your own tools - great. You have surely added to the work you can do on you own projects.

Dwight

If you make a few tools along you can have what you want. I enjoy using tools I have made.

Glad to hear you like agriculture! Corporate business doesn't worry about betting the farm, their goal is to maximize shareholder return and they will take chances that eliminate shareholder value rather than enhance return.

Farmers, on the other hand, own more land than they can justify economically. A farmer can own a million dollars in land and work sixty hour weeks to make a modest income. They have to want to farm. If they bet the farm and lose it then they can no longer have fun farming. Even though they would earn more money with no investment working a job for someone else.

You know the farmer that won the lottery. They asked him what he planned to do now. "Guess I'll just keep farming until it's all played out".
 
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